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    No one ahead of Eason that played fewer minutes
    So you miscomprehend my original note and now bring up a role player comp, which is also incorrect cause Steph has played fewer minutes than Eason. Home run, champ.

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    To draw fouls, you need to be physical. Have you seen Wemby’s body? And you want him to be physical? Again his overall usage is already high because he plays both sides of the court, anchoring the team defense, leading DPOY candidate, and highest team scoring with 23 pts. At 235 lbs stick. And you want him to be more physical?
    Softbanyama's free throw attempts have dropped since last season

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    Is our golden boy playing tonight?

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    Vic is currently 10th in the NBA in LEBRON rating, 6th in the West

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    12 more games to miss before disqualifying from DPOY

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    Timmy didn’t average 30 pts and he lasted 19 years, and the goat PF. You don’t play your franchise player (especially with Wemby’s body type) into the ground and risk injuries. You have Castle and Sochan increase their productions instead. How long have you been a Spurs fan, and not know Spurs manage minutes, and retire them with long 16-19 years Hofer careers.
    im a spurs fan since 2003. But now im more of a wemby fan. So i want wemby to exceed the expectations on him and be in the goat conversation someday. He needs individual accolades ( multiple MVP’s, Finals MVP’s, all NBA 1st team’s, all denfense, allstart selections, etc..) and ofcourse Multiple championships to be in the goat conversation.

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    Glad to see Wemby tough it out while being clearly hampered by the back. It is a good learning experience because in few years when we are in deep playoffs series, he is going to have to get it done while not being 100% health-wise.

    PS. these 4 days of rest couldn't have come at a better time for him.

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    im a spurs fan since 2003. But now im more of a wemby fan. So i want wemby to exceed the expectations on him and be in the goat conversation someday. He needs individual accolades ( multiple MVP’s, Finals MVP’s, all NBA 1st team’s, all denfense, allstart selections, etc..) and ofcourse Multiple championships to be in the goat conversation.
    Okay so don't take you seriously, or even care. You have your agenda.
    Got it.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXbcUPguaZ4

    Great vid. TP says here that RC's been talking about Wemby since Wemby was 12 years old.
    Damn.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXbcUPguaZ4

    Great vid. TP says here that RC's been talking about Wemby since Wemby was 12 years old.
    Damn.
    Just read somewhere that they were on Castle for more than a few years, too. They have connections on connections. Probably Boris and Tony for Wemby, and Castle’s dad went to Wake with Tim.

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    Wemby discussion starts around the 14:40 mark. Great interview between these old rivals tbh.



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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXbcUPguaZ4

    Great vid. TP says here that RC's been talking about Wemby since Wemby was 12 years old.
    Damn.
    Yet folks here act like the Spurs' heist of getting Wemby was all luck, no skill. Despite repeated evidence towards the overarching plans in motion.

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    Yet folks here act like the Spurs' heist of getting Wemby was all luck, no skill. Despite repeated evidence towards the overarching plans in motion.
    Tanking at just the right time to maximize the Wemby chance at 14.0% was skill, but actually hitting that 14.0% chance was luck. It takes both given the lottery system in place.

    The Spurs having extensively scouted Wemby and Castle for years before their drafts tells me that they just do tons of due diligence. There's no way that they put this much work into scouting only Wemby and Castle specifically and then luck into picking them.

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    Tanking at just the right time to maximize the Wemby chance at 14.0% was skill, but actually hitting that 14.0% chance was luck. It takes both given the lottery system in place.

    The Spurs having extensively scouted Wemby and Castle for years before their drafts tells me that they just do tons of due diligence. There's no way that they put this much work into scouting only Wemby and Castle specifically and then luck into picking them.
    And even with all the due diligence they can make wrong choices. Happens to everyone, but still.
    Back when they drafted Samanic and everyone wondered why, media narrative was that RC personally scouted him for years, went to Slovenia multiple times etc.
    Due diligence also got exposed by Primo, imo that's a way bigger up actual basketball evaluation. Noone becomes a degenerate just like that.

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    Yet folks here act like the Spurs' heist of getting Wemby was all luck, no skill. Despite repeated evidence towards the overarching plans in motion.
    I don't think skill v luck is the right way of looking at it. They may have known for years in advance that Wemby was this generational talent they wanted. It still doesn't take away from the fact that landing the luck of hitting 14% odds. And the "skill" of identifying Wemby all those years in advance didn't give you any greater advantage versus the other teams who had 14% odds.

    In fact, I'd argue, if our skill is being able to identify top tear talent that require top picks to acquire... and we are relying on that skill, then that is a bad strategy, because it requires so much luck to pull off.

    If our skill, however, is identifying talent period... well, then that's great and I hope we continue to exploit that skill. (I would love to see this skill start being utilized with our SRPs, personally, but that is a minor quibble).

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    If our skill, however, is identifying talent period... well, then that's great and I hope we continue to exploit that skill. (I would love to see this skill start being utilized with our SRPs, personally, but that is a minor quibble).
    Since I'm bored, current roster evaluation based on situation when we got them.

    Tre - obviously a great SRP.
    CP3 - I think they did well identifying he's got a year or two left in the tank because he looked washed last season.
    Castle - looks like the best player in the draft, period. I don't think he was that hard to identify since it's such a weak draft, though. Would be interesting to know if Spurs would've picked him over top3 picks if they had the chance.
    Devin - another very good selection. Yeah, Haliburton was picked right after, but we had DJ and Derrick on the roster at the time and weren't in tank mode.
    Wesley - they obviously wanted another DJ, he might've looked like he has the tools but probably won't develop.
    Branham - this is probably the worst one because Braun is a way better player in the same position and was picked right after, with some other good player also not being selected with these two picks.
    Sidy - took a chance with a SRP, obvious defensive upside, not developing offensively.
    Keldon - he peaked way lower than we hoped, but still great value for a #29 pick.
    Champagnie - honestly a masterstroke. Got a long-term rotation member on a bargain deal after he was cut by another team.
    Jeremy - other than JWill we can't really complain, solid pick.
    Mamu - another solid claim after he got cut.
    Barnes - probably doesn't need to be on the list, known quan y and got paid to take him.
    Bassey - should've been another masterstroke if he didn't get injured, still a really good move.
    Wemby - obviously they were in on him from the early days, but seeing he's once in a lifetime talent was a no-brainer.
    Collins - got fooled by contract year, absolute disaster.

    Overall a really good job, obviously Collins being the big mistake and mostly Branham being a disappointment because Wesley was always going to be a project.
    If not for failed Samanic and Primo picks that had very little justification behind them, we wouldn't be able to complain about any talent evaluation.
    Wright has also proven he's a great salesman, but starting next summer we'll need him to upgrade the roster with bigger moves, something he hasn't done so far.

    Until then, I'd like to see a couple more attempts at getting rotation pieces for bargains, like they did with Champ and Bassey.

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    While I think Branham and (to a lesser extent) Wesley suck, I don't fault those picks at all. Their outcomes are about what you can expect from late FRPs these days. It's just the nature of those picks.

    I will generally give Wright credit where I wasn't ready to a year ago. The talent evaluation is looking better after some time than it did. Kudos on that.

    With that said, real praise needs to be withheld until we're truly a playoff contender. We haven't accomplished anything yet. With that said... we're on the right track. Wright needs to make some impactful acquisitions in this next phase, and he'll have earned a place at being considered a Top GM (IMO).

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXbcUPguaZ4

    Great vid. TP says here that RC's been talking about Wemby since Wemby was 12 years old.
    Damn.
    That’s why they got the 20131 pick.

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    Wemby discussion starts around the 14:40 mark. Great interview between these old rivals tbh.


    Rivals?
    Wtf, TP wasn’t on the same level

    Rivals

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    Rivals?
    Wtf, TP wasn’t on the same level

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    he was from 2011 to 2014

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    Rivals?
    Wtf, TP wasn’t on the same level

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    C'mon lefty, put a little more effort in your trolling. Porker was elite during the early 10's, while Duncan was everything that the Spurs system was built around, Parker was probably the best player on the Spurs in that 3/4 year stretch.

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    9th on MVP ladder.

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    Manu should have been 2005 Finals Co MVP

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