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    Trae Young led Hawks team playing in the dog water Eastern Conference are a perennial playoff team. Have been since his second season for the most part. Young cost controlled core with room to grow. They have the Lakers pick unprotected first this year plus the Kings pick top 12 protected. They're in good shape.

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    Atlanta is definitely not contenders

    They are having a little hot spurt to start the season, just like a bunch of crappy teams do every year. Same thing happened with Indiana last year.

    Spurs are only 1 game back on Atlanta overall in the league, and we sure as aren't contenders.

    They will regress to the mean eventually, and are just lucky they play in the East. They would still get wiped out by Boston, Milwaukee, or even Cleveland in a 7-game series
    Even though the Spurs record isn't so far off, Atlanta have beaten some really good teams. I hate seeing them win due to the draft pick, but I give them props for some of their wins. Qunn Snider seems to be doing a really good job there (I can't actually remember, but did he takeover during the season last season?).

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    We better beat those pricks next week ..Such a wonky and unpredicable team. Their performance will stabilize but sadly they have already put too many impressive wins on board to negatively affect the outcome of that draft pick..

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    Snider has the Hawks playing D. I wonder what he could do if he actually had some talent to work with?

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    Bucks win a tight one. About time tbh. ATL is legit though. They play good team ball and really compete on the defensive end. Wonder if there’s any way Spurs could poach Snyder from ATL in a year or two tbh.

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    Snider has the Hawks playing D. I wonder what he could do if he actually had some talent to work with?
    8th-ranked defense in the league right now. They’re legit. A lot of length and athleticism on that end which helps them hide Trae.

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    fck u atl

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    Giannis with a monster 32/14/9 stat line. He and Dame closed that game for the Bucks.

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    Why can’t Atlanta be more terrible?

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    Yeah, ATL has a lot of lengthy wings that Snyder has playing great defense. Hides Trae and he's able to rack up assists in their offense. It's working really well.

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    We just need them to stay in the play-in zone. Anything can happened, especially if Philly decides to make a push or Chicago has a fluky game.

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    Spurs future picks not looking so bright

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    Spurs future picks not looking so bright
    We’re 1/3 of the way through season one of three seasons where Atlanta matters to us. That’s 1/9 of the way to the end, and you know what’s going to happen already? You should definitely buy a lottery ticket today if you have that kind of prescience.

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    Looks like the Hawks have two elite defenders at positions that matter. A semi functional Capella with occasional rim protection helps too.

    Every statistical measure says that team should suck. But if they can maintain a top 10 defense they will grind out wins.

    They really do look good - fast, athletic, wall off the paint and get out to challenge the perimeter. Play defense like that and you have a chance to win most nights.

    They’re building a good defensive foundation and they are fun to watch.

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    Looks like the Hawks have two elite defenders at positions that matter. A semi functional Capella with occasional rim protection helps too.

    Every statistical measure says that team should suck. But if they can maintain a top 10 defense they will grind out wins.

    They really do look good - fast, athletic, wall off the paint and get out to challenge the perimeter. Play defense like that and you have a chance to win most nights.

    They’re building a good defensive foundation and they are fun to watch.
    I think teams just DGAF about them, but that will change after the ASG. I’m thinking those good teams they snuck upon will give them a trip to the woodshed later in the year.

    One of the funny things is that Trae is playing like crap this year, and they’re winning. Last game he shot really well, scored a ton of points, and dished a basket of dimes. They lost.

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    It's easy to overestimate the Hawks given their record. According to point differential they "should" be 11-16 right now and we wouldn't be nearly so worried about the draft pick.

    In other words, the Hawks aren't as good as their record would indicate. Point differential is generally a better predictor of future performance than pure wins and losses.

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    Why can’t Atlanta be more terrible?
    My view is that it has more to do with Philly being complete ass unexpectedly, and Indiana's major hangover after a great season last year. Those two perform as expected, and ATL is firmly in play-in territory. As it is, that is still in play which is all we can hope for at this point.

    So basically, its Philly's revenge to making lemonade out of their Champaige and Bassey cuts, lol

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    It's easy to overestimate the Hawks given their record. According to point differential they "should" be 11-16 right now and we wouldn't be nearly so worried about the draft pick.

    In other words, the Hawks aren't as good as their record would indicate. Point differential is generally a better predictor of future performance than pure wins and losses.
    I've said this so many times in this thread and I definitely think its true but they need to start losing at some point or they will overshoot what they "should" be regardless.

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    They’re a fun team with a young core with some crafty Vets (Capela, Bogdan, Matthews, Nance) and a multiple time All-Star.

    Not a bad blueprint, tbh. Imagine if the top of the last draft was better when they lucked into the #1 overall pick.

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    It's easy to overestimate the Hawks given their record. According to point differential they "should" be 11-16 right now and we wouldn't be nearly so worried about the draft pick.

    In other words, the Hawks aren't as good as their record would indicate. Point differential is generally a better predictor of future performance than pure wins and losses.
    Hawks have the 17th best record with the 18th best differential. The east being such hot garbage this season and for the foreseeable future is a big problem for those picks.

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    Hawks have the 17th best record with the 18th best differential. The east being such hot garbage this season and for the foreseeable future is a big problem for those picks.
    They’ve played almost all EC teams so far, and have fluffed their record with those games. When they start playing WC teams in heavy rotation,and the EC teams pay more attention layer in the year, they’ll come back to the mean.

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    They’ve played almost all EC teams so far, and have fluffed their record with those games. When they start playing WC teams in heavy rotation,and the EC teams pay more attention layer in the year, they’ll come back to the mean.
    Yeah but all the other eastern conference teams will start playing more in the west too now that the in season tournament is done.

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    Yeah but all the other eastern conference teams will start playing more in the west too now that the in season tournament is done.
    In season tournament is only 4 games of pool play for nearly everyone. Doesn’t come close to explaining ATLs conference disparity so far. I mean in like late Nov/early Dec, they had played one WC team. One.

    It’s also not an even distribution of teams in the draft. There is a big clump of WC teams at the bottom of the lottery,and a big clump of EC teams sitting just outside the lottery. ATL is currently sitting at pick #16, but climbing just two spots in the EC puts them at pick #10. That could very easily happen over the last 2/3 of the season.

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    In season tournament is only 4 games of pool play for nearly everyone. Doesn’t come close to explaining ATLs conference disparity so far. I mean in like late Nov/early Dec, they had played one WC team. One.

    It’s also not an even distribution of teams in the draft. There is a big clump of WC teams at the bottom of the lottery,and a big clump of EC teams sitting just outside the lottery. ATL is currently sitting at pick #16, but climbing just two spots in the EC puts them at pick #10. That could very easily happen over the last 2/3 of the season.
    Hawks have played eight games total against the west so far. They've also played the Cavs, Celtic Bucks and Knicks seven times combined. That accounts for about half of their total games played so far. They're schedule stays pretty tough for the next month or so as they travel west. They're schedule isn't bad at all from 1/22 onward filled with lots of eastern conference garbage and mediocrity. If the Hawks can survive the next month or so they should be fine.

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