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yes he does.
yes he does.
Yeahs stats are insane. Really, if you have nothing to come back on, just take the L and move on. Don’t go out and remind everyone how your takes suck.I did feed your insanity, didn't I?
My bad
14.7ppg he's at right now are plenty if the rest of the roster is competent.
The issue is that whenever he played he looked like the second best scoring option other than those few games when Devin got hot.
That's not his fault. When we get enough firepower, he'll be the utility guy and a complementary piece.
Small sample size of 13 games.
Last year he gave up shooting %'s of 58% to centers and 51% to forwards.
This isn’t last year. Unlike Sharpe,his game is evolving and improving, and he plays defense.
Not talking about the stats but you Karen.
Why am I not on your ignore list btw?
(rhetorical BTW, just add me on that list and don't answer me K.)
He's showing a lot of improvement. His 3p shot sucks, yet he's still effective. If he ever shoots like Barnes then he's a borderline star at minimum. He's playing a good role. Castle needs to be a better shooter to be effective in his role, however. Imo, it's different for each player and situation.
Why should I? I do read everything, nobody is on my ignore list and neither will you.
So why was I insane? What stats do you have to refute? Do you understand how those stats were used? Do you know what they mean? If you don't agree with them, why not?
People acting like every contender is filled with shooters (at least 4 out of 5 on the floor), but that is just not the case.
Nuggets, Dallas, NY, Rockets, Bucks, and Grizzlies, Magic, Heat, Cavs, Thunder and Suns all have lower 3PA than the Spurs (Spurs are ranked 7th, they really should pull back though, because ....), but granted, of these teams, only the Magic and Rockets have a lower 3P% than the Spurs.
The Spurs are in the middle of the back in terms of overall scoring (17th in pts per 100, 19th in TS%, 21 in eFG%, 17th in TOV%, 17th in ORtg, 16th in Pace). Not great, but not dreadful either. Obviously having Sochan and Castle being able to shoot will address this quite a bit, but they are on a good path compared to last year, when, from what I recalled, they were at the bottom 3 in pretty much O and D.
Saying that the Spurs game is crowded is also untrue, as the Spurs are actually #4 in the league in assist per 100 possessions.
So my take is that the Spurs are actually better on O than people give them credit for.
However, i would say the D is overrated right now, mostly due to highlight blocks and things of that nature. It's not bad, but it's about the same as our O, which is slightly below the middle of the league. 19th in DRtg, 11th in DeFG%, 22th in DTOV%, 20th in DRB). The Spurs are elite in not fouling, giving up only .166 FTs per FGA to the other team, behind only Boston, but we give up more TO (15) than we force (13.8). We also give up 11.4 ORBD a game, which is 23rd in the league.
The Spurs have all the markings of a slightly below average team so far, and while people are pining for improvements from a shooting aspect, there are many other areas to improve (defensive rebounding as in not giving up too many ORBDs), force more TO especially when you have wemby in the paint as the eraser, being more selecting in 3s (jacking up less but making at a higher rate).
Sochan is doing his share on D, he is doing what he can on O as well. He will not be a superstar (unless he suddenly turns into a deadeye shooter, which I don't think he ever will), but he is already a valuable role player at this point, and improving his shooting will make him a very valuable player going forward. He is punching above his draft position now. Of the players drafted that year, I will unquestionably have Paolo, Chet, J-Dub above him. He is in the pool with Keegan Murray, Bennedict Mathurin, Dyson Daniels, Jalen Duren and Tari Eason as the next group. I can see reasons for drafting these guys over Sochan, but I personally would only consider Eason, or perhaps Murray and Daniels over him right now.
Sochan stats will come down when the Spurs play a tougher schedule.
Sharpe has a higher potential as an offensive player. Sochan will never be a shooter, has terrible form and lacks athleticism.
Small sample size. Sochan's numbers will end up like last year by the end of the season. We have two similar years of Sochan and he isn't showing any signs of shooting improvement this year 5 feet away from the basket.
Can't claim Sochan is a lock down defender when we have two years already with him not being a lock down defender.
ing weak, what a puss-out.I did feed your insanity, didn't I?
My bad
Why even come to a basketball text-based forum if you can't entertain the slightest discussion without personal attacks? You're looking pathetic here, pal.
Because I genuinely think you're sick Karen. I mean it and don't see any point exchanging with someone with the same type of weird M.O/rhetoric who keeps using stats despite not understanding their purpose or how to read them.
It's like exchanging with a child. It's insane.
You can make numbers say anything and isolating them as you always do can only lead to stupid interpretations. It's not supposed to be easy and requires a lot of datas to have a picture... that is also available by observation.
It's ok, keep thinking Sochan and Tre are the future of the Spurs, I'll keep thinking otherwise and life goes on.
Sorry u missed a few episodes between me and Karen "pal", I'm not gonna repeat myself again. I made my point
So your solution is to just say random things with no stats to back it up. Like how were they wrong? I’m not saying all stats are 100% right but how were they used incorrectly? Care to explain as it appears you are some expert in statistics?
And no, sochan nor Tre are the future, it sure how you read that. Would love to have you quote me on where I said it. Given how incredibly nuanced you are in your arguments, I would not take it that you would take calling out incorrect criticisms as saying someone is the future. It’s just can’t be.
Ps. And I genuinely think you are re ed. I mean it.
Why are you two a thing?
This is horrible.
third year leap is real. big part of it is also him just having gone away from the parts of his game that he's weak at, ie perimeter offense. but the other part is he seems to just be stronger and is much more adept at finishing at the rim than he had been in his first two seasons
The Spurs kind of flipped the script, using Wemby to space the offense and feed cutters like Sochan and Castle, each getting a lob pass from him tonight. Sochan has also picked up the rebounding slack from Wemby operating on the perimeter.
They need to figure out the spacing and rotations because Sochan is having too good of a 3rd year to consider moving except for someone that is REALLY worth it.
Sochan is improving but his style of play will not last long in this lead without 3 point shooting.
He is just another Kenneth Faried or Montrezl Harrell
The fact that you made that statement tells me you know virtually nothing about basketball,or player comps.
Too much hand wringing about Sochan. I'm more interested in Devin and Castle as far as their ability to play with the ball in their hands, how well they make decisions, shoot, et cetera.
It’s similar to the few weirdos crying about Champagnie, who has been a consistent key contributor all year. Him and Sochan should be the least of our concerns.
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