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    I ing hate Zollins also.. he, KJ and Malaki

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    The Zollins fined $35k

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    He shouldn't have been ejected, he was walking away. And Sabonis plays hyper physical and basically plowed right into Zollins. However... Zollins is still a foul magnet and should be a starter on a tanking team.

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    There arent' any suckers out there who will take Zollins and trade an useful piece to the Spurs. So yeah, holding onto him till he becomes an expiring contract seems to be the only option.

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    Any news?
    Did he break his vagina with that fall last night?
    Hopefully he's done for the season, but we're not that lucky.

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    There arent' any suckers out there who will take Zollins and trade an useful piece to the Spurs. So yeah, holding onto him till he becomes an expiring contract seems to be the only option.
    He's expiring after this season

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    Any news?
    Did he break his vagina with that fall last night?
    Hopefully he's done for the season, but we're not that lucky.
    He's even more untradeable if he's done for the season. Rather, I hope he's fine but the Spurs finally see how much better we can be with a productive backup big.

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    He's even more untradeable if he's done for the season.
    He's untradeable either way, if he goes down we can get a disabled player exception.
    We should apply for it even if he's healthy, tbh.

    Rather, I hope he's fine but the Spurs finally see how much better we can be with a productive backup big.
    The only way for this to happen is if he's out for a long time. If he's available, he'll play.

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    He's untradeable either way, if he goes down we can get a disabled player exception.
    We should apply for it even if he's healthy, tbh.



    The only way for this to happen is if he's out for a long time. If he's available, he'll play.
    the weird thing about the disabled player exception is that it doesnt actually give you a roster spot to replace the guy

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    Time to dust off the old praying dog meme, it seems ...

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    Gotta keep that Spurs/Pacers white guy with great hair pipeline flowing.

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    I'm not opposed to moving on from him because I don't like his contract, but then fans are going to kill Charles Bassey when he becomes the occasional starter. And I don't see a tank scenario on purpose at least. So anyway it seems like a really muddled situation.

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    Other than picks there's not a lot on the Pacers to entice. Doubt they give up picks for Zollins since they're headed nowhere fast and already have one 1st headed to Toronto.

    The pacers are like several teams in an interesting place though. They've bet the farm on Halliburton and Siakim. May have missed on that one.

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    I'm not opposed to moving on from him because I don't like his contract, but then fans are going to kill Charles Bassey when he becomes the occasional starter. And I don't see a tank scenario on purpose at least. So anyway it seems like a really muddled situation.
    I don't think Bassey is good enough to play 15 to 20 minutes every game, but he definitely hasn't reached his ceiling.
    Collins is done and we know he won't get any more useful. Not to mention he's taking 11% of the cap. Bassey is on a minimum deal.

    Some numbers to put things into perspective:

    Collins has 12 blocks and 80 rebounds in 341 minutes.
    Bassey has 19 blocks and 58 rebounds in 158 minutes.

    Spurs are 7-4 when Collins plays 13 or less minutes, 5-8 when he plays more.
    4-1 when he didn't score.

    His only actually good game in a win was against OKC when we won without Wemby...and Bassey had more impact in that game.

    We're still at a stage where some players need to be properly evaluated and we have nothing to gain with playing Collins.
    We can't drive his value up because he's getting worse and everyone caught up to the fact that he's garbage.
    I'm also not sure Bassey will ever be good enough to be a permanent backup, but I'd rather give a shot to an unknown quan y than keep bringing the team down with Collins.


    I still think John Collins would be ideal for this roster because he'd enable us to do so much with our lineups.
    He can play both PF and C, he'd work well as PF next to Wemby, providing both spacing and inside presence on offense.
    He'd kill most backup bigs in the league as C and he'd work well with Jeremy against bench lineups.
    And we can have Bassey as a situational backup big.

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    I'm cool giving Bassey the chance, not sure about the FO. But in trading Zollins, very possibly it seems like we're going to have to get someone else's backup center. My point is that we'd probably have to trade more than just Zollins. And that makes it a bigger decision, more moving parts.

    If Zollins is injured, then we can at least give Bassey an audition.

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    The writer of this article needs to keep Charles Bassey's name out of his mouth

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    I'm cool giving Bassey the chance, not sure about the FO. But in trading Zollins, very possibly it seems like we're going to have to get someone else's backup center. My point is that we'd probably have to trade more than just Zollins. And that makes it a bigger decision, more moving parts.

    If Zollins is injured, then we can at least give Bassey an audition.
    Despite being President of the Charles Bassey fan club, I agree. I don't think it would be wise to simply elevate Bassey into Collins role and call it a day. I still like the idea of replacing Zollins with someone like Jonas, and letting Bassey get situational role time. If we could count on them not having yet another catastrophic injury, I'd be interested in Time Lord or Adams. Both need to be load managed, so you would have opportunities still for Bassey. But I don't want to have to deal with the scenario where either of them goes out for an extended period of time.

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    His knees are done this season.
    He's always been empty calories and questionable availability.

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    How has this guy seemingly calmly accepted being permanently benched?? Has he made a hush hush Devonte Graham agreement with the Spurs where they’ll find him a new team as long as he is a good teammate? It’s impressive…

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    How has this guy seemingly calmly accepted being permanently benched?? Has he made a hush hush Devonte Graham agreement with the Spurs where they’ll find him a new team as long as he is a good teammate? It’s impressive…
    He’s getting paid $35MM and front row season tickets at Spurs home games and VIP travel packages to every road game for two years. Just has to do some occasional cardio. What’s to be upset about?

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    He’s getting paid $35MM and front row season tickets at Spurs home games and VIP travel packages to every road game for two years. Just has to do some occasional cardio. What’s to be upset about?
    Maybe im just used to all the nba drama queens. Im pretty sure a lot other players have handled this a lot worse. I dont think what collins is doing is common at all.

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    Graham was a pro's pro about his situation. Zollins is taking this demotion in stride, good on him.

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    Are we holding Zollins out in a deal for Fox? Zollins, Keldon, Branham and the CHA FRP I bet. Sac probably doesn’t want a key asset such as Zollins risking injury.

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    Are we holding Zollins out in a deal for Fox? Zollins, Keldon, Branham and the CHA FRP I bet. Sac probably doesn’t want a key asset such as Zollins risking injury.
    I thought it was for Giannis

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