Folks be like Fox is a huge game changer and then be like we get him for the player we all hate and like two first round picks that never matter.
Yes, when a high quality player is approaching the end of his contract, his current team is going to have very little leverage. If Sacramento doesn’t trade before the trading deadline this season, they’re ed (assuming Fox wants to come to San Antonio)
Lol
Yeah. If they have to trade him. And if there are no other bidders. Sure.
Fox had 1 great season and struggled in his only playoff series best I can do is KJ, Zollins and CHA pick.
They have to trade him if he says he’s not going to extend. And if he has a destination he wants to go to, the offers Sacramento is going to get are going to be . Just look at the crap Portland got for Lillard.
It certainly doesn't help that Vassell's trade value right now might be the lowest its been in 2 years. Hopefully he pulls it together to increase his trade value, at a minimum.
When does Wemby leave the “I don’t give a that I’ve got the tiest shot selection in the league!” phase by the way?
This is a great question, and I'm glad you asked. Ready for the answer?
It will be when he isn't third on the team in TS% behind Mamu and Barnes. Right now his shot selection isn't crowding out a better performer. His shooting, even if the shot selection is not great, is still the best offensive option we have. When he has better teammates who are competent on the offensive end, and Wemby's shooting becomes the thing holding us back as opposed to the thing keeping us in it, then he'll be motivated to leave that phase. Right now there is no accountability, because there is no on-the-court cause to be accountable to.
He’s a big rockets fan tho if you watch his pods enough so take that with a grain of salt. He also still thinks Reed Shepard will be an nba all star someday apparently.
It will never happen then I’m afraid my friend because he’s already the top dog on the team and nba teams always do as the top dog does so I wouldn’t really ever expect any of the “other” players to start improving their shot selection if he doesn’t first.
i honestly do think though that if he played with the mindset of always taking the very best shot he can get and working hard during the clock to get said shot rather than settling (with layup #1 best shot and wide open three at three point line being #2) they probably would have won not only this game but several others they lost this season. It would be a completely different much scarier team if he considered his odds of making a shot before he settled).
I think Victor wants to win and will do what it takes to win. Right now he probably has the mindset that his shot is the best chance for the team to win, because what's the alternative? Sochan can't shoot, CP3 can't get open, and if you pass it to Devin he's going to pound the air out of the ball before settling for an equally tough shot, probably while double teamed as Champ stands wide open in the corner.
Pair Wemby with a more competent team, and I think that will give him the confidence to have better shot selection and pass up some of those other shots.
At least... that's my hope. I certainly could be wrong and maybe Wemby will never change, in which case we better hope he becomes Steph Curry.
lol right on that Devin observation haha. I’m of course hoping he figures it out too. He reminds me of some of these aggressive gamblers I see sometimes at the Las Vegas blackjack tables who don’t hesitate splitting two tens. He has such an advantage but lets the other team off the hook so much right now. It’s like he starts out every hand with two tens and just gets bored with the easy stuff.
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Good Sir, still high on Vassell??
Let me see how good Fox is......
I think that Castle is a guy who ends up being more of a shooting guard who takes over ball-handling when the starting PG goes to the bench to rest or a pg by committee type like what boston has. I think he also ends up as a capable but not great shooter. I also see a guy who can guard 1-3 and some 4s in a pretty lockdown fashion. He's 6'6" and solid as a 20 y/o rookie, he's probably going to lose a little tiny bit of speed and agility over the next few years but also be a guy who can bully smaller guards a bit.
by gawd, De'Aaron is quick!!!!!!!
Honestly we can even look at a C, Wemby would be perfectly happy playing PF he likes to play outside, most of the combo forwards that are a PF/SF playing in a starting role aren't faster than him and he can soft guard them at 4' away, he becomes a really scary shot blocker roving backside closing guarding in that role. A big burly center with a decent shot becomes really scary when he can play high low with a 7'4" mobile big. On the same line who's going to try and drive on that mess? Do you really want to try and shoot over Wemby as a 6'9" PF even if you have a 4' cushion?
Tried searching through his injury history, and at least at the pro level he doesn't have the same kind of athleticism sapping lower body injuries like some players (Vassell)
I saw games missed for ankle, hip, hamstrings, etc but didn't notice any major surgeries, but I could have missed something. He just turned 27 but I could see him maintaining his athletic skill a few more years
Yep. Opinion doesn’t change due to the sky is falling around here for a December game. Dude missed the entire off season and barely hit the SL after being injured again. If he’s healthy, he’s a keeper if not our 2nd option of the future. Only time - playing time - will tell.
If he continues to be injured for long periods, sure get rid of him. If we can’t get Fox or whomever without giving up Vassell, well expect to spin our wheels some more.
Sometimes I honestly hate that there's no moderation whatsoever on this forum.
It's fine to have preferences, but some of you spew such nonsense, just unbelievable, that post is honestly ban worthy.
From the start of 2021-22 Fox has averaged 25/4/6 on 48/34/75 with 1.5 steals.
In his only playoff series he averaged 27/5/8 on 43/33/75 with 2 steals.
What's he supposed to do with that front office that thinks 35 year old DDR is worth trading away a FRP for?
Wemby is a better player than Fox and won't make the playoffs this year. Maybe Jokic would make the playoffs with this garbage roster, but that's it.
According to your logic, Wemby is a bad player.
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Fox would be awesome.
One thing I've said in past threads, that I still think is accurate is that the Spurs thought Wemby would be ready to be a legitimate le contending star from Year 4 on (early!), and wanted maximise the 15 year window from 2026 until 2040. Taking off the immediate winning glasses and satisfaction as a fan, and putting on nerd glasses, I think that's right. That would be a very early timeline for someone to be that good, and early planning has to accept that it's unlikely someone is a superstar from Day 1. Lots of teams have got in trouble rushing development, not having enough assets at the right time to improve, and capping out just below. It's the Cavs issue with early LeBron, Pelicans with AD (not the same, but the idea), Mavs trading for KP in year 1 of Luka...
Still early, but it looks like he'll be that kind of player even earlier than year 4.
Barnes, Collins come off books in 2026 and at that point we'll have max space, and could sign Fox outright. If I was a NBA star looking to win for the next decade, it's hard to see a better option than Wemby as a partner (generously. Batman and Robin feels generous to the Robin).
The Spurs FO question isn't would Fox make us better now. He would.
It's that given we should be a draw in 2026, and we're aiming to maximise a 15 year window around giant french alien/ modern day Kareem, what would make the giant french alien/ modern day Kareem happy, and is he OK waiting a year in fringe playoff mode if we have confidence that by waiting we'll be able to turn the team into something even better (Fox in FA, some picks into a third high level player, enough left over to upgrade backup positions, then replensh via a swap hitting in 2028 / 2030 / 2031) that gives him a roster around him that can contend for les for a long time.
If Fox is available for Devin and a pick, easy yes. If it'd be 5 picks, Castle, Vassell...? Wemby can probably understand that makes the Spurs a bit better now, but that's not the goal.
34/75 shooting splits on volume ouch. Have to rescind that CHA pick.
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