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Big man standards for the three are also different. Everyone thinks of brook Lopez as a G/VG floor spacing big, and his career 3G mark is 35.
Just clicked on your reddit link and see that Devin was a 91st (!!!) percentile defender in D-EPM. Let's go ahead and chalk that up as sample size bias, considering the mountain of contrary data in front of us
I don't think Devin's a lost cause... but we should not fool ourselves into thinking his an elite defender. Just look at that career D-LEBRON progression
Big man standards for the three are also different. Everyone thinks of brook Lopez as a G/VG floor spacing big, and his career 3G mark is 35.
That's a good point. Chris wants to pad his stats for the end of his career.
When he arrived, he had good to great shots at #2 overall assists and #2 overall steals, which he will probably get, too.
To trade or not to trade >>>
that is the question, hahahahahaha
Hope someday we get someone like Austin Reeves or Josh Giddey
(Trade works)
HOU: Butler
MIA: Vassell; 2 Houston expirings
SAS: Thompson; Smith
It’s a huge bet on Amen being able to continue to improve his shooting (as he has this year), but the bbiq and defense are there. Do wonder if Castle now makes him redundant though? Smith is the ideal 3/4 next to Victor and Sochan for his ability to play D, stretch the floor, and not need the ball. Never cared for Sheppard but the deal work with him instead of Amen too.
Amen has been really fantastic this season, much to the chagrin of the haters, but I don't see any way for him, Castle and Sochan to co-exist on the same team. Also don't think Houston does this deal, but I'm not as in tune with their team.
Totally re the spacing, which is why it’s a big bet on 2 of those 3 improving enough on that side of the ball.
The trade also relies of two core assumptions:
1. Ime prevails on Rockets brass to cash in young guys for vets, which has been suggested is his disposition.
2. As has always been their way, Miami’s preference is to stay in the mix as opposed to rebuilding.
If you can turn Vassell into Jabari Smith, I'm all for it even without Thompson.
I don't think the Rockets sell on Amen anywhere near that cheap.
From their perspective it’s basically Smith/Thompson for Butler. While I take the point that Jimmy is older these days, I still think he’ll command at least two good young Rockets pieces.
As i think about it more, I believe I'd rather have Smith + Sheppard than Smith + Thompson. Thompson and Castle are to redundant and that Sochan, Thompson, and Castle lineup would be abysmal offensively. Castle + Sheppard could be a nice fit.
Amen is the most untouchable Rockets player.
Jabari after him.
Others can be traded for the right offer. But they're not trading Amen unless Giannis becomes available.
I’d be pleased to turn Dev into Jabari and Reed. Houston has buried Jabari and this seems like the time to get him, especially with his extension around the corner. Not a huge Reed guy, but now that I’ve seen Castle in action I can see that pairing working nicely.
The exciting yet low stake option is Zion (or Ingram but less so). Try to get Hawkins in the deal and it's worth Vassel + probably a FRP. If it doesn't work out with Zion/Ingram you still have Hawkins that can turn out better than Vassel.
If we could get Amen I'd trade Castle. Though it's a ridiculous thought as there is no way in the Rockets are trading him. I don't think they'd include him in a Giannis trade much less one for 35 year old Jimmy Butler.
After the Christmas day game my interest in trading for Herb Jones from the Pelicans, has risen. The Spurs need a wing stopper. People say Sochan is a defensive stopper but he did nothing with Bridges yesterday. I would trade a first and two seconds for Herb. We will still have tons assets, for moves.
They’re not trading Hawkins, let alone viewing him as a throw in. They only want to trade Zion and BI because they no longer view them as future pieces of the franchise.
Sochan was checking Brunson for the most part, not bridges.
New Orleans would hang up on your Herb Jones offer.
Why do people think NOP is trading Herb Jones? Lol
Never got this. Or the ideal that they’d trade Trey Murphy.
They still have a fanbase they need to give hope too if they want butts in seats.
there are rumors that the Pelicans are shopping everyone except for the three cheap young stars. However they didn't say the three young stars were untouchable, just that they would rather keep them and are happy to move off everyone else, that means the Pelicans are thinking a complete rebuild and teams thinking that way can be convinced. Herb Jones is a cheap valuable piece however he isn't a foundational piece you build your franchise on, like a Wemby or an Ant. If the Spurs offered two #1's I can't imagine the Pelicans say no.
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