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    ATL CHI tonight 630 CST

    GO BULLS!!

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    The good news for Spurs is that both Pacers and Sixers have been way better lately and will fight Hawks for a playoff spot.

    Right now, there are 4 teams (Sixers, Pacers, Heat and Hawks) that will likely fight for the last 3 playoffs spots in the east. A key point of this battlle will be what will happen with Jimmy Butler.

    Detroit deserves some credit to have kept playing despite their bad start. They're the only NBA team with cap space, so maybe they can improve at the trade deadline instead of just using this space to collect second round picks.

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    The good news for Spurs is that both Pacers and Sixers have been way better lately and will fight Hawks for a playoff spot.

    Right now, there are 4 teams (Sixers, Pacers, Heat and Hawks) that will likely fight for the last 3 playoffs spots in the east. A key point of this battlle will be what will happen with Jimmy Butler.

    Detroit deserves some credit to have kept playing despite their bad start. They're the only NBA team with cap space, so maybe they can improve at the trade deadline instead of just using this space to collect second round picks.
    Detroit really should be commended for their start. They were considered doormats but they're winning games. As opposed to, say, Charlotte, who are just dog .

    Atlanta still has a -2.6 point differential and it feels like they're playing over their heads a little bit. They're in good shape overall, but a lot of games to be played. Too bad they have a good coach.

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    Best case scenario for us might be for the Hawks to land in that 10th seed and have to run through IND and PHI in order to avoid the lottery. As it currently stands, the 10 seed in the EC would net us the 9th best lotto odds.

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    That's why I didn't mind Spurs loss to the Sixers. They seem to be showing a pulse now, won yesterday in BOS too.

    If MIA can hold, IND is about to slip past ATL, and PHI pull up big time and overtake that would help sink ATL. CHI DET BKN all poised right underneath as well and if even 1 can unexpectedly press ATL or even sit close underneath in case ATL falls out things could turn around on this front.

    Also, lol Embaad imo tbh

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    Hawks just went on a 20+ runs to lead Bulls now.


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    fck u atl

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    Just turrrible

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    Bulls ain’t given up that 10th slot

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    Bulls ain’t given up that 10th slot
    yea and it seems detroit and nets trying to go for the play in lol...Not good for us

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    Absolutely hate how the Hawks fell ass backwards into a decent team with that Pelicans trade. Snyder is too good to let them bottom dwell in the East with those pieces, and that changes the outlook for their picks as far as the Spurs are concerned. I think you'll see PATFO more willing to package them in trades as soon as next offseason..

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    Again, we just need them to be in the play-in tournament and lose. Think about it this way: they could end up 10th, earn a playoff spot, and STILL fall out of the lottery. Or they can land at 7, lose, and be in the lotto. Anything can happen.

    We want the same of Chicago but in reverse.

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    Again, we just need them to be in the play-in tournament and lose. Think about it this way: they could end up 10th, earn a playoff spot, and STILL fall out of the lottery. Or they can land at 7, lose, and be in the lotto. Anything can happen.

    We want the same of Chicago but in reverse.
    I think that #8 has been knocked out before, but I don’t think #7 ever has. They have the easiest path, needing to beat one of two teams ranked lower than them. Both games would be at home.

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    I think that #8 has been knocked out before, but I don’t think #7 ever has. They have the easiest path, needing to beat one of two teams ranked lower than them. Both games would be at home.
    If the Sixers and Pacers end up in the play-in, that will be the best case for us, because no matter Atlanta's seed those will be very difficult games. I actually think Philly will eventually find their way to the #6 seed though, MIA could be poised for a drop.

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    s sake man I guess I'm starting to believe the Hawks are actually a playoff team. On one hand, it feels vindicating considering how much people shat on Young in here as if he was just that couldn't be on a winning team despite having already taken a team to the ECF, but it is also frustrating the rumors that Snyder was Pop's replacement never actually turned out to be true. And of course, losing draft placement sucks.

    The consensus - and I agreed completely - was that NOLA made a good trade but man it looks more and more like they just wasted Dyson Daniels.

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    DeAndre Hunter scoring 20ppg on 49/44/90 splits off the bench is not something i saw coming

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    DeAndre Hunter scoring 20ppg on 49/44/90 splits off the bench is not something i saw coming
    I'd say give them one of their picks back for Hunter, but no way after his incident with Wemby.

    I remember his draft comp being 2014 version of nephew. He obviously never got there defensively, but is still solid enough on that end.

    Hawks are in a solid situation overall. Daniels, Johnson, Risacher will all develop, they're getting out of Capela's contract in the summer, enough for Johnson's extension kicking in.
    They just need to find a solid big or hope Okongwu develops and they're good to go if we're talking parennial first/second round exit in the East, which their ownership surely doesn't mind.

    If I was in charge over there, I'd try to find a third team to swing a Poeltl-Bogdanovic trade. Jakob would be perfect for Trae and their shooters.

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    I'd say give them one of their picks back for Hunter, but no way after his incident with Wemby.

    I remember his draft comp being 2014 version of nephew. He obviously never got there defensively, but is still solid enough on that end.

    Hawks are in a solid situation overall. Daniels, Johnson, Risacher will all develop, they're getting out of Capela's contract in the summer, enough for Johnson's extension kicking in.
    They just need to find a solid big or hope Okongwu develops and they're good to go if we're talking parennial first/second round exit in the East, which their ownership surely doesn't mind.

    If I was in charge over there, I'd try to find a third team to swing a Poeltl-Bogdanovic trade. Jakob would be perfect for Trae and their shooters.
    They also have incoming FRPs from LAL and SAC (protected 1-12 this year). That SAC pick owed to ATL actually plays into the Fox discussion... right now SAC is sitting in the 9th lotto seed, but they're playing better than their 13-18 record would indicate (as detailed in the Fox thread). Scrapping and clawing their way to the 13th or 14th lotto seed doesn't do them any good.

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    I'd say give them one of their picks back for Hunter, but no way after his incident with Wemby.

    I remember his draft comp being 2014 version of nephew. He obviously never got there defensively, but is still solid enough on that end.

    Hawks are in a solid situation overall. Daniels, Johnson, Risacher will all develop, they're getting out of Capela's contract in the summer, enough for Johnson's extension kicking in.
    They just need to find a solid big or hope Okongwu develops and they're good to go if we're talking parennial first/second round exit in the East, which their ownership surely doesn't mind.

    If I was in charge over there, I'd try to find a third team to swing a Poeltl-Bogdanovic trade. Jakob would be perfect for Trae and their shooters.
    Daniels and Johnson have already had their year 3 bump, and are pretty much what they’re going to be. Their ownership has continually strip mined their roster by refusing to pay even the basic luxury tax, let alone get into either apron territory. That will destroy their roster in the very near future.

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    Daniels and Johnson have already had their year 3 bump, and are pretty much what they’re going to be. Their ownership has continually strip mined their roster by refusing to pay even the basic luxury tax, let alone get into either apron territory. That will destroy their roster in the very near future.
    I never buy into takes that every player's development trajectory is linear.
    Johnson tripled his output last season and noticably improved again this year.
    Daniels just got there and as mediocre as the Hawks are as an organization, they're still better than Pelicans and I'm sure he'll improve his shot.

    Tax point stands, that's why I said the ownership will be content with treadmilling as long as they make the playoffs.
    Trae is a highlight player, he'll always sell tickets.

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    I never buy into takes that every player's development trajectory is linear.
    Johnson tripled his output last season and noticably improved again this year.
    Daniels just got there and as mediocre as the Hawks are as an organization, they're still better than Pelicans and I'm sure he'll improve his shot.

    Tax point stands, that's why I said the ownership will be content with treadmilling as long as they make the playoffs.
    Trae is a highlight player, he'll always sell tickets.
    There is a development trajectory that stands for probably 90% of NBA players,and that is that there’s a window of just a few years, provably three maybe four, where your development happens, then plateaus. If you miss that window, you either bust, or don’t reach your potential.


    Johnson had nowhere to go BUT up, since his first two years were dog . Tripling garbage numbers isn’t a high bar to clear.

    I always watch what a drafting team does, and if they decide to cut a player loose, there’s probably a reason. Daniels increased counting stats, other than his gaudy and impressive steals, are a function of increased minutes and shots. He hasn’t increased his efficiency in any meaningful way, he’s just putting up more shots. It’s like when SA just gave Keldon a ton more shots, and suddenly he’s a 20 ppg scorer. New Orleans probably saw that Dyson could score more, but didn’t think his shots were worth increasing, since they already have other volume scorers like BI that aren’t super efficient, either.

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    There is a development trajectory that stands for probably 90% of NBA players,and that is that there’s a window of just a few years, provably three maybe four, where your development happens, then plateaus. If you miss that window, you either bust, or don’t reach your potential.

    Curious as to your thoughts on Devin Vassell. Where are you at on him?

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    There is a development trajectory that stands for probably 90% of NBA players,and that is that there’s a window of just a few years, provably three maybe four, where your development happens, then plateaus. If you miss that window, you either bust, or don’t reach your potential.

    Curious as to your thoughts on Devin Vassell. Where are you at on him?

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    Curious as to your thoughts on Devin Vassell. Where are you at on him?
    Disappointed.

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    I told you it’s his foot injury.

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