De'Aaron Fox Rumors Suggest a Possible Trade to The Spurs

[exstatic]

I've waited a while to weigh in on this because my initial reaction was no. I've never seen Fox as someone who impacts winning enough for the salary he'll get.

That said, who does who's also available? Markkanen? Love him and think he's a uniquely great fit around Wemby but does he impact winning? Butler at 36? You can't wait forever for the perfect player to become available, because those types rarely do and when they do they don't fall over each other to go to SA.

Fox is a pretty good fit actually, especially if his 3 point shot is for real. Sure, his defense isn't great but most PGs nowadays struggle defending and he's at least long and strong enough to not be consistently attacked in the playoffs, like Haliburton or Brunson types are. I can live with his brain farts, as long as he gets in the paint at will, finishes well and shoots from 3. His age is also perfect. Wemby will have multiple windows, you can't expect him to have a 10 year championship window with two other young guys, this won't work anymore with the new CBA. Point is, he's good enough and young enough to at least expect him to be movable if it doesn't work if he's on a 30% max contract.

Now, obviously as mentioned many times, Houston is the better fit and they have better resources to offer Sacramento but they seem focused on their weirdly constructed roster and the Phoenix picks. Perhaps they're waiting on Booker or even Durant and if they hesitate it'd be the opportunity for the Spurs to act first. I expect the price to be significant if the trade happens at the deadline. Like, no chance would they move him unless they're getting Castle back. They don't need Vassell on a long term contract when they're rebuilding. I'd offer Sochan + picks + contracts over Castle (and go after Naz Reid in the summer), but they probably can get much better than that. In fact, they'll likely get a better offer than Castle + picks but anyway.

So, yeah. Wemby is ready, they may as well try to be aggressive and Fox is far from the worst player to throw assets at. I'd go for it unless the price is too high, say bidding against a Houston package.

For some reason, they are weirdly fixated on 36 YO KD. I don’t expect that to change.

[Davidicus]

Fit right in with us tbh

[Davidicus]

I’m hoping for HOU wins and SAC losses so Fox is moved at deadline. I think it’s a long shot for SAC to do that, just because that kind of move is rare in general. But it feels like HOU can beat us in a bidding war, so we want them to be out of that war when it happens. Everything I’ve heard from the media lately is they want to see what they have with their guys come playoffs, which makes sense, so the stronger they’re doing the more likely they stand pat. But that’s just the media, who knows how much ish hits the fan if and when Fox goes on the trading block. I’m guessing HOU loses in the 2nd or 3rd round, which ups their chances for a move in the offseason.

[exstatic]

I would do the trade if the price is reasonable, but I’m getting strong LaMarcus Aldridge vibes from him.

[exstatic]

I’m hoping for HOU wins and SAC losses so Fox is moved at deadline. I think it’s a long shot for SAC to do that, just because that kind of move is rare in general. But it feels like HOU can beat us in a bidding war, so we want them to be out of that war when it happens. Everything I’ve heard from the media lately is they want to see what they have with their guys come playoffs, which makes sense, so the stronger they’re doing the more likely they stand pat. But that’s just the media, who knows how much ish hits the fan if and when Fox goes on the trading block. I’m guessing HOU loses in the 2nd or 3rd round, which ups their chances for a move in the offseason.

If Klutch is involved, all they have to do to steer him where they want him to go is to say he will only extend with that team. It doesn’t matter what Houston’s assets are if he won’t extend there. They won’t break the bank if he won’t extend.

[Dejounte]

If Klutch is involved, all they have to do to steer him where they want him to go is to say he will only extend with that team. It doesn’t matter what Houston’s assets are if he won’t extend there. They won’t break the bank if he won’t extend.

It doesn’t have to be Klutch for that to happen. Other agencies do that all the time. See Damian Lilliard.

[exstatic]

It doesn’t have to be Klutch for that to happen. Other agencies do that all the time. See Damian Lilliard.

Right, but the rumor is that Klutch is trying to steer one of their guards to SA to play with Wemby, which is why I mentioned them in a thread about Fox, a Klutch client.

[Ice009]

Any ideas who the other guards Klutch might steer here could be?

EDIT: Ugh looked at Rich Paul's client list and not too impressive at guard positions outside of Fox and guys who probably aren't likely to move (Maxey and Garland). Otherwise it's mid guys like Dejounte, Lavine, VanVleet, Sexton, and then scrubby Scoot. Maybe Rich Paul means Bronny.

I was just about to ask who the guards on their client list are. That's a bit of a downer if Fox is the only significant name on that list that might be moved. Not that I'd complain about Fox, but was hoping there'd be some interesting players on the list.

[rankingtear]

Klutch might have a bigger agenda than getting a client to play with Wemby. LeBum might be an owner of a team sooner than later. FO looks to me are purging Klutch influence from the team.

[exstatic]

Klutch might have a bigger agenda than getting a client to play with Wemby. LeBum might be an owner of a team sooner than later. FO looks to me are purging Klutch influence from the team.

I think at today’s prices, a team is beyond LeBron’s price range. Valuations are from $2B to $4B. I also think that while they absolutely didn’t do it as a player, the league would force him to divest Klutch in order to get a team. No owner should be able to exert that level of control over other franchises.

[Leetonidas]

Klutch isn't any different than any other agency. Idk why people are afraid of the Klutch boogeyman scratch that, I know exactly why

[exstatic]

Klutch isn't any different than any other agency. Idk why people are afraid of the Klutch boogeyman scratch that, I know exactly why

LeBron was allowed (wrongly) to exert that kind of influence as a player because the league needed his marquee presence, but there’s no way he’s allowed to keep Klutch AND own a team. Nobody gives a about owners, even if they’re former top players. See: Jordan, Michael one of the worst owners of the last quarter century.

[rankingtear]

I think at today’s prices, a team is beyond LeBron’s price range. Valuations are from $2B to $4B. I also think that while they absolutely didn’t do it as a player, the league would force him to divest Klutch in order to get a team. No owner should be able to exert that level of control over other franchises.

According to google AI he has equity in the sport group that owns the red sox and is pretty vocal about the las vegas expansion. Must planned it all out how to get partners to s out the money.

[LeBowen]

Right, but the rumor is that Klutch is trying to steer one of their guards to SA to play with Wemby, which is why I mentioned them in a thread about Fox, a Klutch client.

To me it's not just about Wemby, but I doubt Fox himself would want to go one zero rim protection post scorer to another. While the Rockets have way more long-term potential, it would be a lateral move for him.
Not to mention that he wouldn't be that great of a fit with the rest of the Rockets core.
They're obviously trying to get a star, but I'm not convinced they're all in on Fox. I think they're waiting for the Suns to inevitably crumble and then they'll give them their picks back for Booker who would be a perfect fit for them.

[Davidicus]

To me it's not just about Wemby, but I doubt Fox himself would want to go one zero rim protection post scorer to another. While the Rockets have way more long-term potential, it would be a lateral move for him.
Not to mention that he wouldn't be that great of a fit with the rest of the Rockets core.
They're obviously trying to get a star, but I'm not convinced they're all in on Fox. I think they're waiting for the Suns to inevitably crumble and then they'll give them their picks back for Booker who would be a perfect fit for them.

Yeah, the more I put myself in Fox’s shoes, if I want out of Sacramento, I want to go to a team that complements my strengths, and contend for a le. Feels like whatever they trade for in Houston for Fox, he will still be heavily relied upon for offense, and underwhelming help down low on defense. With Wemby, you’ve got a clear number one that will carry the primary load on both ends of the floor, and set you up for playoff + commercial success for the rest of your career.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

LeBron was allowed (wrongly) to exert that kind of influence as a player because the league needed his marquee presence, but there’s no way he’s allowed to keep Klutch AND own a team. Nobody gives a about owners, even if they’re former top players. See: Jordan, Michael one of the worst owners of the last quarter century.

I have to ask…who do you have as the better player MJ or LeBron?

[Seventyniner]

One aspect I haven't seen mentioned is that Harrison Barnes probably has a pretty good read on Fox's character and mindset. If Fox doesn't have a Spurs-type personality they probably won't trade for him even if the price is reasonable, and if the Spurs do manage to trade for him it would tell me that they don't have significant concerns on the character and mindset front.

[rjv]

I haven’t seen the latest speculation on what players the Kings would want but I’m out if they insist on Castle or an outrageous amount of picks.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I would do the trade if the price is reasonable, but I’m getting strong LaMarcus Aldridge vibes from him.

A relatively low maintenance star calibre player who is only considering San Antonio bc of personal/family reasons?

[BatManu20]

I haven’t seen the latest speculation on what players the Kings would want but I’m out if they insist on Castle or an outrageous amount of picks.

Which they will tbh. They’ll likely demand Castle + 2 or 3 FRP’s and then the negotiating begins. Don’t think they’re highly interested in Vassell, especially the way he’s playing this season. That Kings team needs defense as bad as we do and Devin does nothing for them in that regard.

[itzsoweezee]

5. Sam has "heard" (which I believe is 100% true and he's not giving more detail because he doesn't want to out his sources) that Klutch wants to pair one of their guard clients with Wemby. Me reading between the lines: This of course doesn't necessarily mean it will happen... but it might work in SA's favor if a Klutch guard client wants to move. SA may get a discount on the trade acquisition cost (though Klutch is going to certainly not going to give a discount on the salary)

This is definitely true. LeBron wasn’t talking up castle just because he likes Steph’s game. LeBron wants in on that wemby action, whichever way he can get it.

[LeBowen]

Which they will tbh. They’ll likely demand Castle + 2 or 3 FRP’s and then the negotiating begins. Don’t think they’re highly interested in Vassell, especially the way he’s playing this season. That team desperately needs defense as bad as we do and Devin does nothing for them in that regard.

Vassell+Tre+20131 swap returned+2 or 3 FRPs is the best offer they'll get.

They drafted Devin Carter to be their point of attack defender, they can't afford to play Castle with their lack of spacing.
The only team that could give them a better offer is Orlando, but I'm not sure they'd want three max players on payroll.

If they don't intend to blow it up, Castle won't do much for them. Sabonis will be 29 before the end of the season, they need someone who'd be immediate help.
We can give them Hawks picks which they can trade for Hunter, I'm sure Hawks really want those back.

Monk/DDR/Hunter/Murray/Sabonis would be a solid lineup. The best they can hope for in these cir stances.
Tre/Carter/Vassell/Lyles off the bench.

[exstatic]

A relatively low maintenance star calibre player who is only considering San Antonio bc of personal/family reasons?

A weak mentally dude who checks out when things aren’t optimal.

[RC_Drunkford]

I‘m not giving them Castle

[BatManu20]

I‘m not giving them Castle

Same. Don’t think PATFO would do that anyways. If the Rockets or Warriors give up multiple players and picks for him, so be it. Remain patient. His price will come down the longer they wait. Not sure Fox would be willing to sign a long-term extension with either of those teams anyways. He may want to test Free Agency and may even want to play with Wemby, who knows. Stay the course and don’t make a panic overpay.