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    Let the dominoes start falling.

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    They still have Sabonis and DD as "stars" who can be tank commanders since they're not winning players
    You’d want to cash out Sabo while you can. Don’t want to go past that sell by date, and there is one for every player.

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    the kings will want Castle.
    typical tbh

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    You’d want to cash out Sabo while you can. Don’t want to go past that sell by date, and there is one for every player.
    I think that the entire league caught up on how useless non-Jokic bigs without rim protection are in the playoffs.
    Who would even want Sabonis? Maybe the Warriors, but they don't have much to offer.
    Other than that, one of tanking teams that's maybe dumb enough. Pistons or Nets? Idk.

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    not sure if the kings would want castle. they already have spacing issues between sabonis/derozan, and they may want more of a "retool" than "rebuild" situation. its plausible theyd want vassell as the main return piece, and not castle. they could also potentially be demanding both

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    The Kings SHOULD be demanding Vassell + Castle + Sochan + 2 FRPs. Is this a realistic return? No, but that should be their starting offer. The Kings after all, have only one duty and that is to do what's best for the Kings.

    I agree with spurraider21 however, and wrote previously, that Vassell could very well be the piece that makes the most sense. Sochan definitely does not and for those same reasons Castle probably also doesn't make sense other than the fact they are both young and promising. Wonder if the Spurs could get a third team involved to send the Kings a young promising player in addition to Vassell in return for picks. I have no clue who that might be though.

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    I wonder how Derozan feels about this. Not a good feeling when you’re constantly in losing situations.
    He IS the losing situation

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    At around the 40 minutes mark they tackle the Fox situation. Also, before that, Wemby talk.


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    Windy has spoken!

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    Can someone wake up timvp so he can give us some front office intel on Fox? Lol

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    Looks like Sactown is trying to appease Fox, Sabonis and the rest of the team by firing Brown, as a solution to do their best to keep Fox there. Unsure as to who will succeed Brown to entice Fox to stay there, but the drama continues. What concerns me with Fox is his affiliation with Rich Paul and Kluch Sports. Could this be a concern for PATFO as well if they don't pursue Fox?

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    Can someone wake up timvp so he can give us some front office intel on Fox? Lol
    He’s not even posting game grades threads any more. Posters have to go to the main page, grab a link, and post the game grades thread. Doubt he’ll be posting about trade rumors in December.

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    Looks like Sactown is trying to appease Fox, Sabonis and the rest of the team by firing Brown, as a solution to do their best to keep Fox there. Unsure as to who will succeed Brown to entice Fox to stay there, but the drama continues. What concerns me with Fox is his affiliation with Rich Paul and Kluch Sports. Could this be a concern for PATFO as well if they don't pursue Fox?
    They’ve actually worked pretty well with Klutch in the past with DJ’s friendly extension, and Klutch dropping Marcus Morris as a client after the he pulled.

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    He’s not even posting game grades threads any more. Posters have to go to the main page, grab a link, and post the game grades thread. Doubt he’ll be posting about trade rumors in December.
    Yes I know, that’s why I said “wake up.” Tbh, he doesn’t owe us anything so it’s okay if he’s on a hiatus. But I do miss his random thoughts threads.

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    They’ve actually worked pretty well with Klutch in the past with DJ’s friendly extension, and Klutch dropping Marcus Morris as a client after the he pulled.
    Thanks! That's good news to hear! Let's grab our popcorn and see how this drama will play out! GSG!!!

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    It doesn’t have to be Klutch for that to happen. Other agencies do that all the time. See Damian Lilliard.
    All three of us are too damn old to still be pushing a clutch narrative.

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    Damn they did Mike Brown dirty. He won Coach of the Year just 2 years ago lol. Yikes.


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    That coach of the year curse lives on.

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    That coach of the year curse lives on.
    It's a vicious cycle. Overachieve, win COTY, inflated expectations are set, underachieve, get fired for not meeting those lofty expectations.

    Imagine if COTY was a three-year rolling award.

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    Likely means no Fox trade. Moving on...

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    Is fox the type to drive out a good coach from a bad team?

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    If he's a coach Killa we need Fox even more to get rid of Mitch and Pop

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    Still not sold on Fox. I'd rather pursue Immanuel Quickley, who is signed through '29 with a yearly salary of $32.5mil, which would be at least $25mil cheaper (and possibly $35mil cheaper) than what Fox's salary projects to be in '29. Across the board, Fox is more productive, but their numbers per 36min are not as different as most would think. Fox per 36= 23.4pts & 6.6 assists, IQ= 19.5pts & 5 assists, and he spent a lot of his time with the Knicks as a SG. Quickley is a better 3pt shooter and surprisingly has a better career BPM and WS/48. Size-wise, they're pretty similar. Fox is 6'3.25" with a 6'6.5" wingspan, while Quickley is 6'3" with a 6'8.25"wingspan. At their respective draft combines, Quickley outweighed Fox by 15 lbs, but both seem to have put on weight since then. I don't think Quickley is a better player than Fox, but for the money I'd argue IQ is a better #4 option than Fox is a #2 option, and the salary savings down the road will ultimately amount to an additional impact player being in the top 7 rotation pieces. And Quickley wouldn't necessarily be the final answer, and if not, his contract would be easy to combine in a future trade for another upgrade.
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    Fox is not even an all-star nor the best player in his team, why does this guy has so much power in SAC. Coach called him out and gets fired.

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    Still not sold on Fox. I'd rather pursue Immanuel Quickley, who is signed through '29 with a yearly salary of $32.5mil, which would be at least $25mil cheaper (and possibly $35mil cheaper) than what Fox's salary projects to be in '29. Across the board, Fox is more productive, but their numbers per 36min are not as different as most would think. Fox per 36= 23.4pts & 6.6 assists, IQ= 19.5pts & 5 assists, and he spent a lot of his time with the Knicks as a SG. Quickley is a better 3pt shooter and surprisingly has a better career BPM and WS/48. Size-wise, they're pretty similar. Fox is 6'3.25" with a 6'6.5" wingspan, while Quickley is 6'3" with a 6'8.25"wingspan. At their respective draft combines, Quickley outweighed Fox by 15 lbs, but both seem to have put on weight since then. I don't think Quickley is a better player than Fox, but for the money I'd argue IQ is a better #4 option than Fox is a #2 option, and the salary savings down the road will ultimately amount to an additional impact player being in the top 7 rotation pieces. And Quickley wouldn't necessarily be the final answer, and if not, his contract would be easy to combine in a future trade for another upgrade.
    Yuck man hasn’t Quick been injured all year so far? I think that’s overthinking things a bit. That’s how you talk yourself in Zack Collins when you could have had Naz Reid.

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