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    Man, that D'Lo team in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allan (I think) and Spencer Dinwiddie and Caris Lavert was down low tons of fun to watch.

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    Damn I would have loved to see DFS instead of Barnes or Keldon on the Spurs. Multiple position defender and who has been good in 3P shooting this year. Too bad we don't have any expirings except for CP3 and Tre Jones. Would extra SRPs plus Zach Collins have helped? I guess, no.
    Sidy, Mamu, and Bassey are all expiring.

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    Nets could actually pull off another instant contender this summer like they did with KD and Kyrie.

    $57M on the books for the next season as of now. Will be $37M if they trade Cam Johnson.
    Just Claxton, Clowney, Whitehead, Keon Johnson and Jalen Wilson on the books for the next season.
    $25M for Claxton and rookie deals for others.

    They have 4 FRPs in this draft.
    Own, NYK, MIL and worst of OKC/HOU/PHO.

    Down the road they have a couple of PHI picks and they own NYK from Bridges trade.
    Prime position to go right back up.

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    Nets could actually pull off another instant contender this summer like they did with KD and Kyrie.

    $57M on the books for the next season as of now. Will be $37M if they trade Cam Johnson.
    Just Claxton, Clowney, Whitehead, Keon Johnson and Jalen Wilson on the books for the next season.
    $25M for Claxton and rookie deals for others.

    They have 4 FRPs in this draft.
    Own, NYK, MIL and worst of OKC/HOU/PHO.

    Down the road they have a couple of PHI picks and they own NYK from Bridges trade.
    Prime position to go right back up.
    Gotta add in another $42MM for Cam Thomas, Ziaire Williams and Day'Ron Sharpe's RFA numbers, because I doubt they just let those guys walk for nothing.

    If I'm BKN, I'm looking to get the most I can for Cam Johnson, even if that includes taking some bad contracts back. Likewise, I think they should be looking to take advantage of Simmons' expiring and rent out the cap space for draft capital. Cam Thomas is a good tank commander, so might be worth keeping him to be their version fo Keldon - but if they could get an FRP for him (I bet they could), I think they should do that as well. I like Thomas in that Collin Sexton-like microwave scorer/no defense 6th man role... but he's gonna expect a bigger role than that and about too cost more than he's worth, so not pursuing for the Spurs.

    IMO, BKN should try and get as much capital as they can, taking back long-term salary, hope they land a Top 4 pick, and then see if they land their centerpiece or need to go back to the tanking well in 2025. Of all the teams in the league, they are the one who still has significant tearing down to do before they can start rebuilding. Even WAS and UTA are in better spots right now, IMO.

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    Gotta add in another $42MM for Cam Thomas, Ziaire Williams and Day'Ron Sharpe's RFA numbers, because I doubt they just let those guys walk for nothing.

    If I'm BKN, I'm looking to get the most I can for Cam Johnson, even if that includes taking some bad contracts back. Likewise, I think they should be looking to take advantage of Simmons' expiring and rent out the cap space for draft capital. Cam Thomas is a good tank commander, so might be worth keeping him to be their version fo Keldon - but if they could get an FRP for him (I bet they could), I think they should do that as well. I like Thomas in that Collin Sexton-like microwave scorer/no defense 6th man role... but he's gonna expect a bigger role than that and about too cost more than he's worth, so not pursuing for the Spurs.

    IMO, BKN should try and get as much capital as they can, taking back long-term salary, hope they land a Top 4 pick, and then see if they land their centerpiece or need to go back to the tanking well in 2025. Of all the teams in the league, they are the one who still has significant tearing down to do before they can start rebuilding. Even WAS and UTA are in better spots right now, IMO.
    Why would they have more tearing down to do? They legit have nothing left, a completely clean slate.
    Claxton, Thomas, this year's pick are their relevant pieces.
    They could get Jimmy, another solid free agent or two and then trade for another good player and they're right back into it in a weak East.

    Or they have to take bad contracts as you suggested because their own picks won't be enough to rebuild.
    Being in NY is an inherent advantage over other tanking teams, it's just about free agency.

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    Why would they have more tearing down to do? They legit have nothing left, a completely clean slate.
    Claxton, Thomas, this year's pick are their relevant pieces.
    They could get Jimmy, another solid free agent or two and then trade for another good player and they're right back into it in a weak East.

    Or they have to take bad contracts as you suggested because their own picks won't be enough to rebuild.
    Being in NY is an inherent advantage over other tanking teams, it's just about free agency.
    Sorry, I misspoke - didn't mean "tearing down" as much as I meant they have nothing to build on right now. So they have yet to fully hit "rock bottom" and put themselves in position to land that high draft pick (though it looks like this is the year. Getting their picks from HOU was pretty huge for them). At least WAS and UTA have some young pieces, BKN doesn't even have that.

    I honestly don't know how much pressure BKN feels to be compe ive year-in and year-out being in NYC. Judging by their product right now, maybe not much? Wonder how long they can afford to be terrible in a market like that... they may very well not have the luxury of patience and immediately try to build around a Dylan Harper by overpaying Jimmy. On the bright side, they could actually afford to do that on a 3-year deal without totally killing themselves because of how much space they have and how it would be relatively short-term. I wouldn't if I were them, but I could see it happening. I think that would still be a lotto team though

    Edit: but they do need to finish the tear down by getting max value for Cam Johnson before the deadline
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    great trade for L.A. ... Russell sucks
    Except against us for some damn reason

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    Man, that D'Lo team in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allan (I think) and Spencer Dinwiddie and Caris Lavert was down low tons of fun to watch.
    Yep then they went and messed it up by going after 3 stars that bailed on them anyway.

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    Herro did more than anyone I can remember to not get into it during that fracas. He didn't want to be anywhere near that pile after being thrown on his face but was still talking like he had some fight in him for some reason. He even had a chance to get in Thompson's face again but reversed until someone got in to make sure he couldn't.

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    Yep then they went and messed it up by going after 3 stars that bailed on them anyway.
    To be fair the Nets were one Giannis dirty play away from winning a ring in 2021. If Giannis doesn’t step under Kyrie the Nets win that series and then play the Trae Young Hawks in the ECF and the CP3 Suns in the Finals. Nets beat both of those teams.

    But alas, the Nets are a garbage franchise.

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    The DFS trade paves the way to a bought out Chris Paul to Lakers move just after the trade deadline.

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    The DFS trade paves the way to a bought out Chris Paul to Lakers move just after the trade deadline.
    I Hope not buy It looks like a possible (and maybe pre arranged) thing...that could change in case at the deadline our record Is Better than Lak One...

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    TOR has 59 points with only 6 min to play against BOS. Threatening to not break 70 in the year of our TimGPT 2024 is WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILD

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    TOR has 59 points with only 6 min to play against BOS. Threatening to not break 70 in the year of our TimGPT 2024 is WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILD
    Old heads fapping hard rn

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    The DFS trade paves the way to a bought out Chris Paul to Lakers move just after the trade deadline.
    the spurs fighting for a play-in/play-off spot arent going to waive their starting point guard only to help another WC team

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    Toronto breaks through at the end to finish with 71 points in a nail-biting 54-point loss to BOS

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    Toronto breaks through at the end to finish with 71 points in a nail-biting 54-point loss to BOS
    Both teams got an extra 15 minutes at the club before the ball drops because of this ass whopping!

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    Always good to see the lakers get their asses handed to them

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    Grizzlies vs Suns right now. Another game to watch out for.

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    Phoenix loses at home, hopefully they keep slipping in the standings.

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    Memphis played super hard with over half their roster injured.

    Side note, if we could ever steal JJJ away from Memphis I would do it in a heart beat. Him and wemby on the floor at the same time would be nasty.

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    nice night Timberwolves, Suns, and Lakers all lose plus Spurs win

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    This Suns team. What's wrong with them?

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    This Suns team. What's wrong with them?
    Isn't it obvious?
    Beal is the definition of an empty calories player, contributes absolutely nothing to winning and he's on $50M.
    Tyus Jones, O'Neale and Allen are their only two solid role players, the team doesn't work whenever KD is out, which is often the case.
    If they hadn't picked up Tyus, they would've been even worse.
    Nurkic is awful defensively, can't move at all and he for some reason also fell off offensively.

    There's just no hope for that roster. They can't even tank since they don't have any picks.
    Can't tank unless Booker goes to Houston and they get their picks back, which is the most likely scenario, imo.
    We should be all over KD if they blow it up. He's just not slowing down and will surely play up until he's 40.

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    Isn't it obvious?
    Beal is the definition of an empty calories player, contributes absolutely nothing to winning and he's on $50M.
    Tyus Jones, O'Neale and Allen are their only two solid role players, the team doesn't work whenever KD is out, which is often the case.
    If they hadn't picked up Tyus, they would've been even worse.
    Nurkic is awful defensively, can't move at all and he for some reason also fell off offensively.

    There's just no hope for that roster. They can't even tank since they don't have any picks.
    Can't tank unless Booker goes to Houston and they get their picks back, which is the most likely scenario, imo.
    We should be all over KD if they blow it up. He's just not slowing down and will surely play up until he's 40.
    Wouldn't surprise me if KD retires once his contract is up tbh. He strikes me as a guy who has other things he wants to do other than basketball like Timmy.

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