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    Are you seriously comparing a generational talent to a mid guard selected in the middle of the first round? Wemby didn’t put up numbers, he put up eye popping numbers in combinations never seen before, and he wasn’t only playing because he was on a team.
    Of course I'm not comparing Wemby to McCain. I'm just exposing your terrible, homer, take.

    If you think Castle deserves RoY over McCain, it can't be because of that hypocrite reason for Spurs fans.

    For example, I think Castle deserves RoY over McCain because basketball is played both sides of the ball.

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    Castle got shafted in December, tbh.

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    Castle got shafted in December, tbh.
    pretty bad choice from the coaching.Castle didnt deserved to be benched after he was playing so well.

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    He had four turnovers in 8 minutes last night.

    He's been pressing since being moved to the bench, but that pressing and pushing the issue is not helping him make good things happen. The reason he was starting is because he was making good things happen, but recently he has had games where he strings several bad plays together in a row in a short time-span. He has got to add that mid-range jumper soon, rather than later, so that he can be a real threat again. Right now, everyone knows he only wants to run straight to the crowded paint, deep in the paint. He is making himself limited and too easy to deal with.

    Add the mid-range jumper, bro. ASAP. Please.

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    He had four turnovers in 8 minutes last night.

    He's been pressing since being moved to the bench, but that pressing and pushing the issue is not helping him make good things happen. The reason he was starting is because he was making good things happen, but recently he has had games where he strings several bad plays together in a row in a short time-span. He has got to add that mid-range jumper soon, rather than later, so that he can be a real threat again. Right now, everyone knows he only wants to run straight to the crowded paint, deep in the paint. He is making himself limited and too easy to deal with.

    Add the mid-range jumper, bro. ASAP. Please.
    He stunk on ice last night. Spurs had 9 turnovers for the game, and he had four of them in limited minutes.

    I think what it comes down to is when he starts, he’s considered the 5th option, and isn’t really paid attention to. When he comes off the bench, he’s higher in the pecking order, they’re paying attention to him, and he’s struggling with that.

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    He stunk on ice last night. Spurs had 9 turnovers for the game, and he had four of them in limited minutes.

    I think what it comes down to is when he starts, he’s considered the 5th option, and isn’t really paid attention to. When he comes off the bench, he’s higher in the pecking order, they’re paying attention to him, and he’s struggling with that.
    While he was awful last night, he played just 13 minutes in Phily with 7-9 FG. That just kills a rookie.
    Meanwhile Keldon played 21 minutes in that game and put up 4/1/2.
    Tre played 14 minutes and had 2/3/2.

    Just can't ing happen, no matter the cir stances.

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    He‘s more effective playing with CP3 in the backcourt.
    Mitch has to play better line ups

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    the reason castle looked better as a starter was becaue he was surrounded by shooters. he was starting alongside Wemby, Barnes, Champagnie, and Paul, all of whom can shoot. getting more minutes alongside Tre, Bassey, Keldon is going to make it tougher to mask his own shooting issue

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    the reason castle looked better as a starter was becaue he was surrounded by shooters. he was starting alongside Wemby, Barnes, Champagnie, and Paul, all of whom can shoot. getting more minutes alongside Tre, Bassey, Keldon is going to make it tougher to mask his own shooting issue
    To your point:


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    You know what's the worst thing? Not only that we don't need Keldon, but even Mamu would probably be more useful than him. Clearly a better shooter right now and he can't be any worse defensively. Awful lack of athleticism, but at least he's smart and won't look like an idiot out there.

    I can't believe I'll have to change my avatar to Keldon, tbh.

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    While he was awful last night, he played just 13 minutes in Phily with 7-9 FG. That just kills a rookie.
    Meanwhile Keldon played 21 minutes in that game and put up 4/1/2.
    Tre played 14 minutes and had 2/3/2.

    Just can't ing happen, no matter the cir stances.
    I’m not a fan of Tre getting minutes, and think he needs the Devonte treatment. He’s a direct compe or for minutes with Stephon.

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    People in here told me how great a shooter Sheppard was going to be. He's shooting just 32% and 28% from 3 in 11 minutes a game and doing little else.

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    People in here told me how great a shooter Sheppard was going to be. He's shooting just 32% and 28% from 3 in 11 minutes a game and doing little else.
    Jimmer gonna Jimmer at the next level. Here’s hoping he masters the quick release. It’s doable.

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    the reason castle looked better as a starter was becaue he was surrounded by shooters. he was starting alongside Wemby, Barnes, Champagnie, and Paul, all of whom can shoot. getting more minutes alongside Tre, Bassey, Keldon is going to make it tougher to mask his own shooting issue
    it sounds like the easy take, but i'm pretty sure that is not entirely the case. He is just playing like dog , it is not the shooting, playing passive with the ball or overly aggressive with predictable penetrations. Players now know he's go to move is going to rim, and given he has neither elite size or athleticism, it becomes a given he'll get blocked a lot. He should be fine learning when to go to the rim and when not, but it is not the shooting, he wouldn't get blocked any less if shooters made their shots. He is also showing the glaring weaknesses on the defensive end that i have been yapping for a while now, namely getting bullied in the paint and not having the size to contest anyone but pgs, but unfortunately he has also shown poor game awareness in the last few games, and i mostly blame mitch for it.

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    He’s just earning his stripes, nothing more nothing less. A young man just learning all his lessons on the fly…. It’ll slow down for him in due time. The fact that he’s shown so much promise this early should have all fans excited vs clutching pearls / over analyzing the 20 year old.

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    Mitch had the team clicking at CP3, Champ, Castle, Barnes and Wemby that’s a very balanced line up and our rookie was thriving surrounded by shooters.

    The 2nd unit of Tre, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, Bassey/Collins - was a perfect combination of motor and athleticism, with Devin able to get more opportunities as the 1st option.

    Mitch needs the cajones to make the decision to start the rookie. Not only because he plays better, who is the future, plus imo is the best balanced combination. But ing dumb. Sochan shooting 3 last night instead of Champ in there, Tre closing defending Brunson and Bridges torching the Spurs, while arguably the best POA defender in Castle was at the bench lagging 11 minutes. Dumb!

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    Mitch had the team clicking at CP3, Champ, Castle, Barnes and Wemby that’s a very balanced line up and our rookie was thriving surrounded by shooters.

    The 2nd unit of Tre, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, Bassey/Collins - was a perfect combination of motor and athleticism, with Devin able to get more opportunities as the 1st option.

    Mitch needs the cajones to make the decision to start the rookie. Not only because he plays better, who is the future, plus imo is the best balance. But ing dumb. Sochan shooting 3 last night instead of Champ in there, Tre closing defending Brunson and Bridges torching the Spurs, while arguably the best POA defender in Castle is at the bench lagging 11 minutes. Dumb
    yup i agree

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    CIA tank

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    Castle needs to stay starting. He is our 4th pick not some random 18th pick..He has shown enough promise to let him play through mistakes ..He should be lock for 25-30 minutes a night.. Mitch really lost it with him when Sochan came back from injury..

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    Castle needs to stay starting. He is our 4th pick not some random 18th pick..He has shown enough promise to let him play through mistakes ..He should be lock for 25-30 minutes a night.. Mitch really lost it with him when Sochan came back from injury..
    Yes. Like a lot of people here said, if we're going to lose games, might as well give your 4th pick his needed reps during those games.

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    Tough game from Castle, love his steady demeanor, defense, strength going to the basket and some of his passes are way ahead of the curve for a rookie.

    I really enjoy watching the team when he starts and hope that Sochan becomes a bench player before the season ends. Add a backup center that could shoot to the 2nd team and we'd have some options.

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    Yes. Like a lot of people here said, if we're going to lose games, might as well give your 4th pick his needed reps during those games.
    Deep down, Mitch probably knows that but the optics of benching the more senior player (Sochan) is what made him make the change as he doesn't have power to make it a permanent call. Both can't shoot, but Castle is the more creative player and near as good of a defender who thrives better while sharing the court with CP3/Wemby in his playing stint and has closed multiple games early in the season--something non-star rookies rarely do for winning teams.
    Last edited by spursistan; 01-14-2025 at 02:20 AM.

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    Yeah I didn’t want to bump your “record with Sochan” thread cause I know sniffers will complain. But the stat is just too in our faces. God I really don’t want Mitch to this up by going back to starting Sochan.

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    Castle is gonna kill opposing pgs in the post…..his footwork down there is nasty!

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