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    Wouldn't surprise me if KD retires once his contract is up tbh. He strikes me as a guy who has other things he wants to do other than basketball like Timmy.
    Really? KD strikes me as a guy who lives for basketball and will play for as long as he can.

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    Wouldn't surprise me if KD retires once his contract is up tbh. He strikes me as a guy who has other things he wants to do other than basketball like Timmy.
    yeah that’s exactly why Tim retired. He had other things to do…

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    Damn, Jaden Ivey wheeled off the court on a stretcher. Pistons were finally starting to look compe ive.

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    yeah that’s exactly why Tim retired. He had other things to do…
    Man, it's like he knows nothing about these players. KD to me seems like someone who will play as long as he can. I always thought he loves to play (I could be wrong as I don't follow him at all). Maybe he wants off the team, but I seriously doubt he wants out of the NBA if he can still play and is healthy enough to do so at a good level.

    TD, he literally said he'd play until the wheels fell off. Tim, in my opinion was playing great in 2016 until he hurt his good knee, but then didn't finish the season off too well, and then it seems the good knee didn't respond during the off-season so that it why he retired. It really sucks as IMO he really was playing well up to that point. LEGENDARY Player. I love the guy and loved every minute of the ride.

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    Uffff that Jaden Ivey injury was sad to see

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    Has anybody seen Sam Hauser and Gordon Hayward in the same room at the same time?
    Last edited by DAF86; 01-03-2025 at 12:30 AM.

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    Brown sitting out and Celtics still sleepwalking past the wolves.

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    Wolves with all those ballers on the floor and Derek White says “ watch this one right here off the bank”.

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    I know this is not a hot take but the Twolves were much better with Towns.

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    bucks are such trash....How are they losing to the nets at home.Thats worst then the bulls losing
    to the wizards yesterday.East is so bad.

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    bucks are such trash....How are they losing to the nets at home.Thats worst then the bulls losing
    to the wizards yesterday.East is so bad.
    Cleveland is 29-4. They lost two games to ATLANTA.

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    Man the nets tried to blatantly tank the game away at the end with that turnover and Claxton trying to get a delay of game at the free throw line.

    And the Bucks still lost 😂

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    The Jimmy Butler situation is certainly popcorn worthy. It'll be very interesting where he'd end up and whether any team would be willing to give him the 2/113 mil extension he wants. I imagine no one will, but there is a shortlist of teams that just might do it (or come close to his desired number on an extension) - GS, Memphis and Spurs.

    Not saying I'd want him and his weird pseudo tough guy act, but Spurs are one of the few teams that can match salaries and afford to pay him ~$50 mil next season and eventually for 26-27 as well.

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    The Jimmy Butler situation is certainly popcorn worthy. It'll be very interesting where he'd end up and whether any team would be willing to give him the 2/113 mil extension he wants. I imagine no one will, but there is a shortlist of teams that just might do it - GS, Memphis and Spurs.

    Not saying I'd want him and his weird pseudo tough guy act, but Spurs are one of the few teams that can match salaries and afford to pay him ~$50 mil next season and eventually for 26-27 as well.
    I think Spurs wouldn't offer Jimmy another two years even if Keldon/Collins/Tre salary match is all it takes for the trade to happen.

    We need regular season performers to get to the playoffs.
    Jimmy missed exactly 100 regular season games over the past 5 seasons, not including this one.
    We can't afford to be paying $50M to someone who misses 20 games every year and isn't at 100% when he plays.
    The biggest reason for Miami's pedestrian regular season stats even when they got to the finals is Jimmy half-assing it up until April.
    We can't afford that in the West.

    As for the teams intereted, it's going to be those teams already in cap .
    Warriors, Suns, Clippers, Nuggets, Lakers, Bucks, maybe the Rockets.

    If Rockets aren't interested, Riley will probably be interested in Warriors package.

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    A team like Denver could use Butler, but not afford him. Otherwise he's 35 years old and will make $50 million on a player option next year. I don't think there are a lot of teams that can manage to get or keep him now.

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    A team like Denver could use Butler, but not afford him. Otherwise he's 35 years old and will make $50 million on a player option next year. I don't think there are a lot of teams that can manage to get or keep him now.
    More teams would be interested if it was just this and the next season. But he wants another deal, persumably the same one PG got. Or at least 3 more years. I think he's in for a rude awakening because Riley obviously won't take Beal and no other team is idiotic enough to trade for a 35 year old troublemaker.

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    I think Spurs wouldn't offer Jimmy another two years even if Keldon/Collins/Tre salary match is all it takes for the trade to happen.

    We need regular season performers to get to the playoffs.
    Jimmy missed exactly 100 regular season games over the past 5 seasons, not including this one.
    We can't afford to be paying $50M to someone who misses 20 games every year and isn't at 100% when he plays.
    The biggest reason for Miami's pedestrian regular season stats even when they got to the finals is Jimmy half-assing it up until April.
    We can't afford that in the West.

    As for the teams intereted, it's going to be those teams already in cap .
    Warriors, Suns, Clippers, Nuggets, Lakers, Bucks, maybe the Rockets.

    If Rockets aren't interested, Riley will probably be interested in Warriors package.
    Yeah, when it comes to the Spurs I meant they could afford to pay him his $52 mil option for next season plus one more season at 50+ mil, but not the whole player option and 2/113 on top. Don't think any team would be willing to get there.

    Most interested teams would find it difficult or impossible to get a deal done. Even for Houston it'd be incredibly difficult to find the contracts.

    GS would be in pole position if they offer Wiggins and Kuminga (provided Miami actually like Kuminga). They'll be shedding salary for next season and would be able to slot Butler's contract and they're also desperate enough for the possibility of one final run with Curry. Their problem is they're hard capped at the first apron and are just under it, so matching the contracts would be tough.

    Memphis have multiple ways to get the deal done but the most likely one would be similar to the Spurs's - offering players on non-expiring contracts like Smart and Clarke and paying for it with picks. Similar to a Keldon, Collins type deal. They could theoretically use a 3rd team like Brooklyn to dump the contracts for picks. Then there's also the Vassell way, but let's not go there.

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    jimmy just turned 35, has missed a third of the games this year, hasnt played more than 64 games in a year since the 18-19 season, and has made a fuss on his way off of a few teams already.

    i dont know who is going to want him right now. of those, is miami going to be willing to accept some clunky multiyear contracts to make the numbers work, and what draft capital is a team going to be willing to give up?

    beal for jimmy + josh richardson works math-wise. beal has a no trade clause, and miami doesnt want his contract any more than they dont want to extend jimmy. dallas could make a move but it would require moving Kyrie so that doesnt make much sense anyway if they like the roster they've built.

    warriors could try to cobble together some contracts in addition to wiggins but the math is very tough to work out there given both teams cap constraints

    rockets could make a move with FVV's contract

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    Really? KD strikes me as a guy who lives for basketball and will play for as long as he can.
    Plus he wants to win a le where no one can say you just joined a 73 win team

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    Devin carter returns from injury today.Probably wont play much,But curious to see how he does and plays in the future.
    Rumors that we were interested in drafting him.Well see how he develops in time for the kings.

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    I know this is not a hot take but the Twolves were much better with Towns.
    Yep. Losing KAT, as well as Slowmo, and Conley looking beyond cooked this season has really ed them. But the KAT trade was just self inflicted and they compounded the issue but trading him for a ball hog that can't space the floor and is terrible on defense wolves front office is trash. That 20131 pick is gonna be top 5 imho

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    Warriors gave him 27/3 contract and he's already out of the rotation.

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    Warriors gave him 27/3 contract and he's already out of the rotation.
    He doesn't really fit with them but he had a nice role on the wolves, they desperately need another ball handler besides Edwards since Conley is a non factor now. He isn't a big reason why they suck compared to last season but just another factor. Losing KAT and replacing him with Randle is obviously their biggest issue. That and Ant has for brains and hasn't evolved as a player at all

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    He isn't a big reason why they suck compared to last season but just another factor. Losing KAT and replacing him with Randle is obviously their biggest issue.
    Obviously, it was more of a shot at the Warriors front office and yet another horrible move they made. From not wanting to trade their young scrubs for Markkanen, to signing Buddy Hield and getting SlowMo who's obviously just a poor man's Draymond for them and doesn't fit.

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    He doesn't really fit with them but he had a nice role on the wolves, they desperately need another ball handler besides Edwards since Conley is a non factor now. He isn't a big reason why they suck compared to last season but just another factor. Losing KAT and replacing him with Randle is obviously their biggest issue. That and Ant has for brains and hasn't evolved as a player at all
    Ant has evolved though, out of necessity. with the team's spacing dead after trading KAT for Randle he's had to become the floor spacer himself, as opposed to the beneficiary of spacing provided by KAT

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