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    I'm taking Murphy tbh
    Sure....but he's not for sale...

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    All the Zion haters will be the first to cry like babies when he scores 30 for fun on the Lakers or the Mavs.

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    If all things were equal I'd take Ingram over Zion, but things aren't equal. Zions has a non-guaranteed contract and Ingram is looking for a long term near max deal. Based on that, I'd gamble on Zion over BI if that were the only options in a hypothetical.

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    Can we make Zion the new Bobo? Or is he more like Big Dog Robinson?

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    I'm taking Murphy tbh
    Yep. I'd go godfather offer for Murphy. He's gonna be a star in this league.

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    Can we make Zion the new Bobo? Or is he more like Big Dog Robinson?
    Spurs comparison: Dejuan Blair

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    Spurs comparison: Dejuan Blair
    Yeah they both have an at ude and love cheeseburgers / tacos a bit too much.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muXmUzjNNKk



    Oh boy. Sounds like he gone.

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    Hope the Spurs come up with some out-of-the-box trade ideas..............

    Something truly unexpected

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    There’s no leverage on his part. The only team with any cap room next summer will be Brooklyn, and that would ruin their rebuild. Riles has said he’s not trading him, and I believe him, unless there is a S&T done next summer.

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    Not the first time I've seen LaRavia mentioned as a trade target. I like it, but he had his option declined and is in that strange scenario where it might be hard to resign him if you acquire him via trade. Might be better to just try and get him in FA. But, I think he'd be a really interesting wing option. 6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan. .444 on threes this year, but low volume (only 2.2 3PA/gm). Good defender, ranks 77% in Crafted DPM, around 80% in DARKO D-DPM and D-LEBRON. No clue what kind of deal he'll draw on the open market... but I'm guessing Memphis (or whomever trades for him if they do) can only offer a starting salary $5.1MM, and I think he'll command more than that. Strange decision for MEM to not pick up his 4th year, considering his performance last year and his role so far this year.

    This guy also proposes Keldon + Collins + Bran + SA25 + CHI25 + ATL 27 + SA27 (w BOS swap) for Fox.

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    Not the first time I've seen LaRavia mentioned as a trade target. I like it, but he had his option declined and is in that strange scenario where it might be hard to resign him if you acquire him via trade. Might be better to just try and get him in FA. But, I think he'd be a really interesting wing option. 6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan. .444 on threes this year, but low volume (only 2.2 3PA/gm). Good defender, ranks 77% in Crafted DPM, around 80% in DARKO D-DPM and D-LEBRON. No clue what kind of deal he'll draw on the open market... but I'm guessing Memphis (or whomever trades for him if they do) can only offer a starting salary $5.1MM, and I think he'll command more than that. Strange decision for MEM to not pick up his 4th year, considering his performance last year and his role so far this year.

    This guy also proposes Keldon + Collins + Bran + SA25 + CHI25 + ATL 27 + SA27 (w BOS swap) for Fox.
    Great video -- Im liking the Spurs continuing to be opportunistic on the margins at this deadline, and then going big in the Summer. Now, if the Spurs go on a big run in January it might force PATFO to reconsider, but if they stay at 11th seed i dont think they make a big splash in February.

    His SAC trade is how i would approach it -- a deal focused on picks and salary.

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    Now, if the Spurs go on a big run in January it might force PATFO to reconsider, but if they stay at 11th seed i dont think they make a big splash in February.
    This is the issue. I can almost guarantee not having a legit backup big between now and trade deadline will cost us at leat a few more wins. Wins that could decide if we make the play-in.
    I understand that getting someone like Fox won't be easy, but with 20 SRPs available there's no excuse for Wright when it comes to Wemby's backup.

    His SAC trade is how i would approach it -- a deal focused on picks and salary.
    It's not about how Spurs would approach it, it's about what the Kings want.
    They surely won't blow it up now, they'll want something of value.

    I'd have Castle as untouchable, anything else goes assuming the price is fair.
    Hawks picks could be key because they really need a 3-D wing. As good as Hunter has been this season, I'm sure Hawks would rather have those picks back.

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    This is the issue. I can almost guarantee not having a legit backup big between now and trade deadline will cost us at leat a few more wins. Wins that could decide if we make the play-in.
    I understand that getting someone like Fox won't be easy, but with 20 SRPs available there's no excuse for Wright when it comes to Wemby's backup.



    It's not about how Spurs would approach it, it's about what the Kings want.
    They surely won't blow it up now, they'll want something of value.

    I'd have Castle as untouchable, anything else goes assuming the price is fair.
    Hawks picks could be key because they really need a 3-D wing. As good as Hunter has been this season, I'm sure Hawks would rather have those picks back.
    Spurs didn’t blow it up when they traded Kawhi,but they should have. If the kings trade Fox, they won’t have anyone good enough to build around for more than 35-40 wins, much like the post Kawhi Spurs. The absolutely SHOULD blow it up, monetizing pieces like Sabo while he has value.

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    Spurs didn’t blow it up when they traded Kawhi,but they should have. If the kings trade Fox, they won’t have anyone good enough to build around for more than 35-40 wins, much like the post Kawhi Spurs. The absolutely SHOULD blow it up, monetizing pieces like Sabo while he has value.
    We're talking about one of the worst ran franchises in the league. If they can keep treadmilling around play-in for the rest of Sabonis' prime, that's exactly what they'll do.
    As long as the tickets are sold, they don't really care.

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    We're talking about one of the worst ran franchises in the league. If they can keep treadmilling around play-in for the rest of Sabonis' prime, that's exactly what they'll do.
    As long as the tickets are sold, they don't really care.
    Such opportunity cost when they could instead tank for their next Marvin Bagley, Willie Cauley-Stein, Thomas Robinson, Nik Stauskas, or Ben McLemore.

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    Such opportunity cost when they could instead tank for their next Marvin Bagley, Willie Cauley-Stein, Thomas Robinson, Nik Stauskas, or Ben McLemore.
    Now that's a huge dose of perspective lol

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    Not a butler fan at all but just for s and giggles...


    If Spurs went all in and Fox and Butler and only gave up Castle, Vassell, Keldon, Collins, and picks, is a Wemby/Fox/Butler big three good enough to win a chip this season? I'm leaning toward no but I think they would easily be the 2nd best team in the West and could possibly beat OKC to get to the Finals

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    Not a butler fan at all but just for s and giggles...


    If Spurs went all in and Fox and Butler and only gave up Castle, Vassell, Keldon, Collins, and picks, is a Wemby/Fox/Butler big three good enough to win a chip this season? I'm leaning toward no but I think they would easily be the 2nd best team in the West and could possibly beat OKC to get to the Finals
    As I said in Fox topic, I think we can compete against anyone other than OKC with Fox, 3-D wing and a backup big.
    Something like Fox, Cam Johnson and Valanciunas would make us really dangerous right away.

    Devin, Tre (or Wesley if they prefer), swap returned and 2 more FRPs for Fox.
    Keldon, FRP and swap (or Jeremy) for Cam Johnson.
    Collins and 4 SRPs for Valanciunas.

    Fox/Castle/Cam/Barnes/Wemby
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    CP3/Fox/Jeremy/Cam/Wemby

    With Champagnie, CP3/Castle, Valanciunas as key bench pieces. Could find another wing for cheap if Jeremy goes.

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    We're talking about one of the worst ran franchises in the league. If they can keep treadmilling around play-in for the rest of Sabonis' prime, that's exactly what they'll do.
    As long as the tickets are sold, they don't really care.
    Great point and an important thing to consider. Not ever franchise has the NBA le as the primary goal. Vecenie discussed this in a recent pod, and Sacramento is one of those squads who doesn't need to be competing for les to view themselves as being successful. Competing for the playoffs and selling out the stadium does it. If you keep that perspective in mind, it's easy to see why SAC would choose to reload over rebuild. When evaluating what other teams strategies, you have to keep in mind their larger motives.

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    As I said in Fox topic, I think we can compete against anyone other than OKC with Fox, 3-D wing and a backup big.
    Something like Fox, Cam Johnson and Valanciunas would make us really dangerous right away.

    Devin, Tre (or Wesley if they prefer), swap returned and 2 more FRPs for Fox.
    Keldon, FRP and swap (or Jeremy) for Cam Johnson.
    Collins and 4 SRPs for Valanciunas.

    Fox/Castle/Cam/Barnes/Wemby
    or
    CP3/Fox/Jeremy/Cam/Wemby

    With Champagnie, CP3/Castle, Valanciunas as key bench pieces. Could find another wing for cheap if Jeremy goes.
    I think that's not a terrible option but idk about us being as good as anyone sans OKC with that roster. Boston would still slap us and healthy Mavericks would still be trouble imo

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    I think that's not a terrible option but idk about us being as good as anyone sans OKC with that roster. Boston would still slap us and healthy Mavericks would still be trouble imo
    Sorry, I meant in the West.

    The more games I watch, the more I realize how flawed everyone is except OKC.
    Grizzlies are actually scary because they keep racking up wins without half the roster in most games.
    Others not so much.

    Rockets have no offense whatsoever, when the game slows down in the playoffs they wont' be able to do .
    Nuggets without Jokic aren't much better than current Spurs without Wemby, just a horrible roster.
    Mavs should be legit, but Luka's calf injury looks serious and I doubt he'll be at 100% this season.
    Others aren't even worth a mention if we're talking legit teams.

    I firmly believe that we could reach WCF with Fox and Cam...and good coaching.

    I don't even rate Cam that highly, but he's the best available 3-D wing.

    And Fox/Castle/Champ/Cam/Wemby lineup would be good for another 5 seasons, both cap and timeline wise. With obvious room for growth.

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    Not a butler fan at all but just for s and giggles...


    If Spurs went all in and Fox and Butler and only gave up Castle, Vassell, Keldon, Collins, and picks, is a Wemby/Fox/Butler big three good enough to win a chip this season? I'm leaning toward no but I think they would easily be the 2nd best team in the West and could possibly beat OKC to get to the Finals
    what's even the roster at that point?

    Fox/Champagnie/Butler/Sochan/Wemby

    Paul/Branham/Barnes/Mamu/Bassey

    probably just have to start barnes at the 4 with that lineup

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