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    Learning how to win is a long and painful process. It will take some patience, sadly. The FO probably thinks this team has overachieved already and will be happy with us getting 35 wins.
    I don't buy this.
    It would be a painful process if Castle was out there with the ball closing the game out.

    We're ruining the development of our rookie and our best 3pt shooter by playing a huge net negative Keldon ahead of them.
    If Castle was out there, learning and making mistakes in the clutch, I'd be fine with it.

    There's nothing to learn when it comes to 5th or 6th year players, they are what they are. Maybe they have room for some improvement, but if you think they'll suddenly develop basketball IQ, you're in for a bad surprise.

    We need addition by subtraction. We were playing better while certain players were injured and that can't be overlooked.

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    I've been right about everything I've said on here ever, and it brings me joy when years later I see the consensus on the board lines up with opinions I've had... So cry all u want, that doesn't change the fact that Wemby is soft on offense
    No, you haven't been right, you're just a degenerate who thinks repeating the same thing over and over again will make it true.

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    First time I'm pissed at Wemby. WTF when you get the ball in a very good position in the paint, you gonna pass out to Sochan for a three? WTF man

    Zero influx tonight, he disappeared in the 2nd half.

    I hope it was just a day without. We should NEVER have lost that game.

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    No... He is young enough to change... He just needs better leadership... Our coaches are afraid/incapable and the teammates never seem to get on his ass... After maybe the 5th season if he is still soft, then we need to make major changes because soft players don't lead teams to rings... And I'm here to win rings ... Not cater to feelings
    but most of your criticism is directed at the player in his second season making 12 million a year while we have other players making way more with more experience and you don't seem to get as passionate in criticizing them. It seems that you have something against Wemby

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    I've been right about everything I've said on here ever, and it brings me joy when years later I see the consensus on the board lines up with opinions I've had... So cry all u want, that doesn't change the fact that Wemby is soft on offense
    Brother, Victor is not the problem. Halfway through year 2 and he's top 5 in the league. The rest of the team is hot garbage who cannot dribble, pass or shoot under pressure. Just because Victor looks like he could save the world doesn't mean he doesn't need a team around him.

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    DV about to drop a 50 piece on Lavine.
    Jinx!

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    What hurts my feelings is that there's no block option on this garbage forum so I don't have to read your nonsense.
    You haven't made a single useful post ever, you just come into game threads to trigger people. Not one thought out post about the players, roster, coach, trades, anything.
    ing re .
    Habibi, the ignore feature is your friend

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    No, you haven't been right, you're just a degenerate who thinks repeating the same thing over and over again will make it true.
    Ur crying doesn't change facts... There's not a single issue I've been wrong about... Not one

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    At least we up that top 10 protect pick chances

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    - Thought Vassell had a great all-round first half and then an all too familiar second half...
    - Castle has got to play in the end game of these close contests.
    - Probably only rates overall 5 out of 10 on the "Spurs all-time loss frustration scale" or SALTFA for short (TM pending)

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    It's tough watching this team "play basketball." Too much dumb and not enough talent.

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    Brother, Victor is not the problem. Halfway through year 2 and he's top 5 in the league. The rest of the team is hot garbage who cannot dribble, pass or shoot under pressure. Just because Victor looks like he could save the world doesn't mean he doesn't need a team around him.
    That's a separate issue... The roster is and the coaching is ... That doesn't mean it's ok for Vic to go 9/22 because he rather shoot threes over dudes a foot shorter than him and lighter than him... It's completely ok to criticize ur best player... We live in this ing LeBron era where no one should ever hold the best player in the team accountable for anything and instead bash the less talented teammates... I hold everyone accountable that needs to be held accountable...

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    First time I'm pissed at Wemby. WTF when you get the ball in a very good position in the paint, you gonna pass out to Sochan for a three? WTF man

    Zero influx tonight, he disappeared in the 2nd half.

    I hope it was just a day without. We should NEVER have lost that game.
    Nah....Not wembys fault he has good iq and made good play but his teammates cant hit wide open shots.
    This is what the front office is giving wemby to work with.

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    but most of your criticism is directed at the player in his second season making 12 million a year while we have other players making way more with more experience and you don't seem to get as passionate in criticizing them. It seems that you have something against Wemby
    Most of my criticisms are about coaching and Sochan... But because this is the year y'all finally agree with me (I've been saying this since last season), u only get triggered by the Vic criticisms and don't notice when I do it to anyone else... Vic is the best player and deserves the brunt of the blame (aside from Mitch) when he goes 9/22 in a close game and has zero impact in the 4th... Let's bring back criticizing the best player... That's how they get better... Coddling then is how u get Embiid

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    Nah....Not wembys fault he has good iq and made good play but his teammates cant hit wide open shots.
    This is what the front office is giving wemby to work with.
    Vic is a high IQ player that makes dumb plays waaay too often for my liking... Facing up against Westbrook multiple times so he can steal it isn't the fault of anyone else (except maybe coaching)... Getting the ball right under the rim and instead passing it to the front row is a dumb play... There's no excuse

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    but his teammates cant hit wide open shots.
    And teammates who can aren't even in the game.

    Our $30M a year second option is at 29% from 3pt on 5 attempts since he returned to the starting lineup.
    Our $3M shooter who got benched because of that $30M player is at 45% on 5 attempts in that same period.
    Guess which one doesn't close the games out?

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    That's a separate issue... The roster is and the coaching is ... That doesn't mean it's ok for Vic to go 9/22 because he rather shoot threes over dudes a foot shorter than him and lighter than him... It's completely ok to criticize ur best player... We live in this ing LeBron era where no one should ever hold the best player in the team accountable for anything and instead bash the less talented teammates... I hold everyone accountable that needs to be held accountable...
    If the problem is that Victor needs to improve his game, I think he'd be the 1st to say so but these observations should come after a win as well. Spurs are not in "win now" mode. They still see every game as a learning moment. The record doesn't really matter during this time to them, else they'd not have those terrible, low end scrubs soaking up Victor's early years.

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    They still see every game as a learning moment.
    Then why aren't they letting their rookie learn instead of having 5/6th year net negatives out there?

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    Then why aren't they letting their rookie learn instead of having 5/6th year net negatives out there?
    Because they aren't serious about winning, they are just required to field 5 players. They have some assets in Castle and Vassell, maybe. The rest outside of the obvious are just randos.

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    They lost this game even with Paul playing an unusual good game.

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    Because they aren't serious about winning, they are just required to field 5 players. They have some assets in Castle and Vassell, maybe. The rest outside of the obvious are just randos.
    You maybe misunderstood what I was trying to say.
    If it's not about winning, but learning, then Castle must be on the floor way more than Keldon and must play through his mistakes.

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    They lost this game even with Paul playing an unusual good game.
    its on vassell....Dude cant even hit open shots no more.Cp3 and 5 other guys outplaying him once again.

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    This gives us picks 11-12-13 in the draft I’ll take that.

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    You maybe misunderstood what I was trying to say.
    If it's not about winning, but learning, then Castle must be on the floor way more than Keldon and must play through his mistakes.
    There's too much "new" stuff on this team, it's amazing they have the record they have. CP3 and Barnes in in their 1st year, Victor's 2nd. New head coach. Castle is a rookie. If anything the Spurs have outperformed where they probably should be right now.

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    This gives us picks 11-12-13 in the draft I’ll take that.
    Great we can draft the next Sochan, Primo and Vassell in one draft!

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