Feels like every player has gotten worse at shooting the more they have worked with him tbh.
Good points, but it did make me pause for a second a consider that maybe Chip has different responsibilities in OKC? I actually don't know, but perhaps he's more of a general assistant in OKC and not just "the shooting coach" and thus the impact is different?
I think you are right though that not all players can be turned into good shooters.
I think there's hope for Castle. The shots he makes don't look unfixable. Sochan on the other hand looks like a train wreck whether it goes in or not.
Who knows what Chip actually does. Pop alluded to the fact that he had no idea what Chip did.
By year 3, I predict that Castle will be considerably better.
Feels like the brain drain that the Spurs org has suffered over the years is coming home to roost. I think maybe objective mentioned here how Memphis hired a bunch of Spurs scouts and have been hitting on late firsts & second rounders ever since. Spurs gave Pop the bag but most likely cheaped out on developmental/scouting budget during the treadmill era (that's what happened with Chip who got pried away by Sam Presti)
I do remember that turnaround jumper of his and I agree, it was actually decent. And yeah, now that you mention it, from what little I remember, his current 3 point shot does look a little like his two handed free throws.
So the problem with me is that I never really had a problem shooting the ball (not saying I was Steph Curry or anything close). I was just a natural shooter no matter what form I had/used, I could still make the shot, so I never really had to rebuild a broken shot, I just wanted to tweak it myself. Just had a natural feel for shooting the ball. I really do think having a feel for shooting the ball makes a big difference as a player could be hitting shots with a not so good form, but then if improving/tweaking his/her form, they could be even better, but this is all provided they have a feel for shooting the ball.
Now if a guy can't shoot at all, in my opinion, the best thing to try and do is what Chip does and make small tweaks if the shot isn't completely broken/messed up. If the shot is that broken and you can't make small tweaks, then you rebuild it as close to a traditional shooting form as you can. You want it also to be a fluid, smooth shooting motion without to low of a release point that can easily be blocked either. From there, it's just going to have to be repe ion. You also need to learn to shoot against defenders when you're sped up. Jeremy could hit the majority of his shots in the gym when he is unguarded and has time to shoot it, but in a game, you're always going to have to shoot quicker when the defender is closing in on you (this is where shots like his current 3 point shot break down - the accuracy goes way down in game due to his poor shooting motion and lack of feel for shooting).
I will also say in regard to TP, he may have been taking his guide hand off the ball earlier, but he also shooting midrange jumpshots a lot of the time. He never really shot many three pointers. I don't think that technique is a good one if you want to be a distance shooter. You have to leave you guide hand on a touch longer to help stabilize the ball as you're going to shoot it with more force/velocity from three point trange with it being further out. Even if he's going good shooting one handed free throws, the accuracy will go down the toilet if he were to start shooting one handed three pointers. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good tool to help learn to shot closer to the basket (mid-range), but at some point, you'll have to learn to use the guide hand properly. I just think Jeremy is messed up shooting both ways in game. He either shoots with one hand and only takes mid-range or closer jumpers, or learns to shoot with both again (including free throws) and extends out to the three point line with it.
Ouseman Dieng also seemed not to benefit.
In my opinion if you don't have some kind of feel for shooting (even just a little bit), doesn't matter how much you tweak your shot or how hard you work on it, you may never become a good shooter. Of course there are exceptions to this, but probably way more players that have never improved despite working their asses off doing whatever they can, shooting 1000 shots a day etc. I'd still encourage everyone to try, though, as you have no chance if don't at least put in all the effort you can to improve your shot, but having at least a little feel for shooting the ball increases your chances of getting better at it if you put the work in.
OKC is 20th in 3 pt percentage .351
Of course they are 9th in attempts per 100 possessions
SAS is 24th at .341
Looking at the Spurs volume wise and percentage wise Castle and Keldon are the ones dragging it down
Of course it's more complicated as some like Sochan and Tre probably pass up shots
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