Spurs trade ideas

[rjv]

Jimmy Butler: I want to play literally anywhere other than Miami...

Jimmy Butler (a few days later): ...so long as it is in one of these 3 very specific places.

jimmy is gonna jimmy. just happy that SA is on not on his list of preferred destinations.

[The Truth #6]

Emo Jimmy.

[Spurs Brazil]

Since Miami likely would not be interested in taking back Zach Collins' contract, San Antonio probably would have to include both Barnes and Johnson in any Butler trade offer. It's possible both could start at forward for the Heat, and Johnson (age 25) could be a long-term contributor in Miami. The Spurs probably don't need to include multiple first-round picks because the one they're sending is likely to be in the teens in June's draft. -- Pelton

People really don't watch Spurs games.

[100%duncan]

Apparently Grizzlies were close to completing the deal and then Jimmy's agent told them he's not interested.
I wonder which players they were willing to give up. They have too many solid players, we could use some.

As you said, at this point it's so bad that I want a trade to happen just to get rid of some of these scrubs.

What a cancerous moron. Jimmy and Pat is a match made in heaven. Egotistical maniacs

[scott]

I'm fascinated by how aggressive MEM is being in the trade market.

[exstatic]

Spurs need to hope PHX keeps losing more games so they decide to blow it up and trade us KD and/or Booker tbh. They've lost 7 of their last 9 and are now the 12th seed in the West. Their pairing of KD, Book, and Beal simply isn't working and it's not going to. I'm hoping they lose every single game they play the rest of the way tbh.

They have an easier stretch coming up playing the Hornets twice, Jazz, Pistons, Wizards twice, ATL twice and then the Cavs being the only contender sprinkled in there. We'll see how they get through this stretch. But either KD or Book would be a Godsend to this team and no way they run it back again next year with the same group if they miss the Playoffs this year imo. Would be a perfect time for them to sell those guys for young players + draft capital and begin their rebuild for what's beginning to look like a loaded 2026 Draft Class.

Houston will get whoever they want first, since they hold Phoenix’s picks this year, 2027, and 2029. Phoenix will need those to tank.

[tbdog]

I'm fascinated by how aggressive MEM is being in the trade market.

They never are and probably should have two seasons ago.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs need to hope PHX keeps losing more games so they decide to blow it up and trade us KD and/or Booker tbh. They've lost 7 of their last 9 and are now the 12th seed in the West. Their pairing of KD, Book, and Beal simply isn't working and it's not going to. I'm hoping they lose every single game they play the rest of the way tbh.

They have an easier stretch coming up playing the Hornets twice, Jazz, Pistons, Wizards twice, ATL twice and then the Cavs being the only contender sprinkled in there. We'll see how they get through this stretch. But either KD or Book would be a Godsend to this team and no way they run it back again next year with the same group if they miss the Playoffs this year imo. Would be a perfect time for them to sell those guys for young players + draft capital and begin their rebuild for what's beginning to look like a loaded 2026 Draft Class.

I don’t want the Rockets getting another top 10 pick

[scott]

I don’t want the Rockets getting another top 10 pick

PHX loses to CHA tonight... Rockets might be getting one either way

[exstatic]

PHX loses to CHA tonight... Rockets might be getting one either way

Unless they spend it in a package for Book or Durant. I don’t think it was a coincidence that they wanted those specific picks in exchange for giving Brooklyn back their own picks.

[tbdog]

PHX loses to CHA tonight... Rockets might be getting one either way

Ironic that a team with Durant and Booker is going to make Houston better, while Tre Young and the Hawks are not doing favours for the Spurs.

[poopbox]

I'm fascinated by how aggressive MEM is being in the trade market.

Coaching staff and front office probably feeling some heat. Thunder and Rockets have passed them as hot young team on the rise.

[cutewizard]

Any movement from the Spurs??

[tbdog]

Any movement from the Spurs??

Deadline is little under a month away.

[The Truth #6]

All the trade ideas seem to be for the #2 star to play alongside Wemby. Sort of a zag, but with the improvement we've seen with CP and Barnes, who weren't hard to get, I'm also interested in just getting more quality affordable vets who can contribute to winning now. Not an exciting path, but we've already seen the improvement going this way, as well as the regression with Keldon and Devin returning. I still have some hope for Sochan because he's comfortable doing the dirty work, and most players aren't, and so I see him as some part of our defensive iden y. But his minutes should be subservient to Castle's minutes, so to speak.

[mo7888]

All the trade ideas seem to be for the #2 star to play alongside Wemby. Sort of a zag, but with the improvement we've seen with CP and Barnes, who weren't hard to get, I'm also interested in just getting more quality affordable vets who can contribute to winning now. Not an exciting path, but we've already seen the improvement going this way, as well as the regression with Keldon and Devin returning. I still have some hope for Sochan because he's comfortable doing the dirty work, and most players aren't, and so I see him as some part of our defensive iden y. But his minutes should be subservient to Castle's minutes, so to speak.

So, what would be a couple examples of who you're thinking?

[scott]

All the trade ideas seem to be for the #2 star to play alongside Wemby. Sort of a zag, but with the improvement we've seen with CP and Barnes, who weren't hard to get, I'm also interested in just getting more quality affordable vets who can contribute to winning now. Not an exciting path, but we've already seen the improvement going this way, as well as the regression with Keldon and Devin returning. I still have some hope for Sochan because he's comfortable doing the dirty work, and most players aren't, and so I see him as some part of our defensive iden y. But his minutes should be subservient to Castle's minutes, so to speak.

I'm with ya! I think the best path for Brian Wright *right now* is for either a trade for the #2 if one is available, or just focusing on those small vet moves to raise the floor of the team. Jonas and Nesmith remain my two favorite possibilities (though I don't know how attainable Nesmith really is - his name was thrown into the Cam Johnson rumors but other than that not sure if IND would be good with parting ways with him)

[LeBowen]

So, what would be a couple examples of who you're thinking?

We've been crying for a backup big all season long, Valanciunas being the most obvious answer.
Scott has mentioned Nesmith many times.

The thing is that we have too many subpar to average players, getting more other than a backup big wouldn't help that much.
We got Champagnie not playing enough because Mitch has other ideas, another bench wing wouldn't change much.

Getting any consistent 25ppg scorer who can easily get to the rim would completely change this team. Yeah, we'd still have issues, but the rest of the roster is functional, it's just that noone other than Victor has enough firepower.

[The Truth #6]

So, what would be a couple examples of who you're thinking?

Good point. A year ago I would have said someone like Norm Powell, but his visibility and stock has exploded with a larger role. I suppose I'm speaking as far as a philosophy and approach. Let me check other rosters. But likely win now teams about to collapse us who I'd look at.

[scott]

To this concept, I think part of the problem of "seeing what we have" right now is that what we are seeing is that 1) Wemby is really good but is having to carry the team 2) having competent role players like CP3/Barnes/Champ makes a huge difference and 3) it's really hard to win when the rest of your team sucks.

I think the fact that guys like Devin, Castle and Sochan have to share the court with the Keldons/Collins/Tre (though I think Tre has actually been really good this year, but he has obvious limitations) is that it short changes their development. They too are having to do too much to overcome the complete show that their teammates create. I realize I am the Founder and CEO of the Anti-Devin Association, but he's not exactly being given the best opportunity to succeed either.

Just imagine this team instead of of the one we have:

CP3/Tre
Castle/Devin
Champ/Nesmith
Barnes/Sochan
Wemby/Jonas

That's a team that probably swings 2-3 of our close losses this year. 21-15 would be pretty sweet about right now.

[Guru of Nothing]

I'll bet Durant would like to play alongside Wemby for a couple of years, and you know Wemby would love that. Would be fun to watch and they would instantly become the team nobody wants to face in the playoffs.

Starting lineup:

CP3
Castle
Barnes
Durant
Wemby

Bench rotation of Sochan, Devin, KJ and ...

[baseline bum]

To this concept, I think part of the problem of "seeing what we have" right now is that what we are seeing is that 1) Wemby is really good but is having to carry the team 2) having competent role players like CP3/Barnes/Champ makes a huge difference and 3) it's really hard to win when the rest of your team sucks.

I think the fact that guys like Devin, Castle and Sochan have to share the court with the Keldons/Collins/Tre (though I think Tre has actually been really good this year, but he has obvious limitations) is that it short changes their development. They too are having to do too much to overcome the complete show that their teammates create. I realize I am the Founder and CEO of the Anti-Devin Association, but he's not exactly being given the best opportunity to succeed either.

Just imagine this team instead of of the one we have:

CP3/Tre
Castle/Devin
Champ/Nesmith
Barnes/Sochan
Wemby/Jonas

That's a team that probably swings 2-3 of our close losses this year. 21-15 would be pretty sweet about right now.

You have to trade Pena to get Art to quit starting him tbh

[scott]

You have to trade Pena to get Art to quit starting him tbh

I can do this all day, Art

[baseline bum]

I'll bet Durant would like to play alongside Wemby for a couple of years, and you know Wemby would love that. Would be fun to watch and they would instantly become the team nobody wants to face in the playoffs.

Starting lineup:

CP3
Castle
Barnes
Durant
Wemby

Bench rotation of Sochan, Devin, KJ and ...

Guessing Sochan would be one of the pieces to get this trade done. Something like this plus the 2026 Spurs first with ATL swap and then one of the other unprotected firsts the Spurs have would be my guess as to what it would take to get Durant out of Phoenix after they trade Booker to Houston.

[timtonymanu]

People really don't watch Spurs games.

Shhhh let them think that. Lol.