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    if beal refuses to be moved and the suns just want to deconstruct to rebuild around booker... we'd be among the teams with the salary and picks to make a move for KD. he's still playing at an all-nba level

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    I'd love to see the Rockettes blow their load on Booker, tbh. Few other star players I'd like less on my team in the playoffs.
    Ime has the whole team playing defense. All he is missing is a perimeter scorer. That’s also what you do need in the playoffs.

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    if beal refuses to be moved and the suns just want to deconstruct to rebuild around booker... we'd be among the teams with the salary and picks to make a move for KD. he's still playing at an all-nba level
    If they trade KD they are probably trading Booker too to get some of their picks back.

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    If they trade KD they are probably trading Booker too to get some of their picks back.
    i think they try to get something back for KD to try to build around booker again. book just turned 28 and is their franchise guy for a decade. i think moving booker is their absolute last gasp, and they wont be there yet

    if booker asks out because he doesnt want to go through a retool/rebuild during his prime, that would be a different story. if so, rox would be heavy favorites for obvious reasons

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    Thunder and Cavs with ESPN pre game show tonight. Might find out if the Cavs really have any fight.

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    lol Lakers,losing to a severely undermanned Mavs squad
    Not to defend the Flakers but half of LA is on fire right now, including probably a bunch of the players' homes.

    I wouldn't give a about defending Spencer Dinwiddie with that on my mind either tbh.

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    Not to defend the Flakers but half of LA is on fire right now, including probably a bunch of the players' homes.

    I wouldn't give a about defending Spencer Dinwiddie with that on my mind either tbh.
    i wonder what ducks thinks about the fires

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    Early bs foul called on Allen. Thunder refs starting early

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    This is absolutely terrible basketball from the two best teams in the league.

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    Suns really lost to the Hornets

    Let's be honest, Spurs missing out on the play-in this season would be a travesty. The West is not as good as advertised.
    Also would be a good reason to finally offload some of the losers on the team. A lot of their current rotation has to go.

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    Spurs drafted Sochan ahead of Duren. I guess

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    Cavs look legit. They had a pretty clear gameplan in how they wanted to surround their "core" (Mitc /Garland/Mobley/Allen) with dudes who can shoot. LaVert, Strus, Wade, Okoro, Niang, Merrill, Jerome... most of those guys are all pretty good shooters. Strus probably the worst of them.

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    Cavs/Thunder chock full of two way players on good/great contracts.

    Meanwhile the Spurs are overpaying for no way players like Keldon and Zollins tbh

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    Cavs/Thunder chock full of two way players on good/great contracts.

    Meanwhile the Spurs are overpaying for no way players like Keldon and Zollins tbh
    I'm told Zollins is having an objectively good season, and Keldon is worth a FRP

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    I bet Commissioner Nosferatu is just jonesin' for a Cleveland/Oklahoma City Finals tbh. 2007 redux.

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    Ime has the whole team playing defense. All he is missing is a perimeter scorer. That’s also what you do need in the playoffs.
    You won't get any defense out of Book but damn he'd be a deadly scorer for you ers.

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    This game also a reminder of how important offense is in today's NBA. The top defensive team in the NBA (OKC) and the #8 defensive team (CLE), and it's 103-102 after 3Q.

    Can't just hang your hat on defense these days.

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    i think they try to get something back for KD to try to build around booker again. book just turned 28 and is their franchise guy for a decade. i think moving booker is their absolute last gasp, and they wont be there yet

    if booker asks out because he doesnt want to go through a retool/rebuild during his prime, that would be a different story. if so, rox would be heavy favorites for obvious reasons
    Booker is not a guy I'd want to build around. I mean they have to say they don't want to trade him to try to extract the max they can out of Houston but they'd be morons to not dump him so they can rebuild. Though they're clearly morons seeing they traded for Beal.

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    Booker is not a guy I'd want to build around. I mean they have to say they don't want to trade him to try to extract the max they can out of Houston but they'd be morons to not dump him so they can rebuild. Though they're clearly morons seeing they traded for Beal.
    its not a question of what i think they should do, its what im expecting them to do. i dont see them moving book unless its a godfather type deal. i think houston would have to give them Amen + Green and some picks or something like that.

    in any event, i dont think its the first move phoenix will try to make to salvage this show

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    This game also a reminder of how important offense is in today's NBA. The top defensive team in the NBA (OKC) and the #8 defensive team (CLE), and it's 103-102 after 3Q.

    Can't just hang your hat on defense these days.
    Most of the best teams have to be top 10 in both offence and defence. Even those boring spurs of the early/mid 2000s were always top 10 in o-rating (except 2004 for some reason).

    I get your point about the score but teams have to be able to score if need be. People were shocked the spurs were able to hang with the suns in 05 and 07, reality is that the spurs had a decent offence, they just play at a glacial pace.

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    They outmeated Shai again

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    I think it's worth noting and ultimately Spurs related that Detroit could make the playoffs in the East.

    How does that affect SA?

    Minnesota has Detroit's pick via the Knicks and the Towns trade that's protected 1-13 in 25, 1-11 in 26, and 1-9 in 27. If that conveys, then they have a tradeable asset or at least a decent first in the mid-teens. They can't trade any other firsts of their own because of the outright picks and swaps they owe to Utah and San Antonio covering every actionable year going forward.

    They might be able to adjust their roster enough to dodge total disaster.

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    he played 1 game


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    You won't get any defense out of Book but damn he'd be a deadly scorer for you ers.
    Haha yep.

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    its not a question of what i think they should do, its what im expecting them to do. i dont see them moving book unless its a godfather type deal. i think houston would have to give them Amen + Green and some picks or something like that.

    in any event, i dont think its the first move phoenix will try to make to salvage this show
    If they ask for Amen I’d tell them to kiss my ass
    Rox have the leverage by saying we can go elsewhere for a trade and still keep your likely lotto picks. KD is guaranteed to ask out and Booker too probably. While they can get picks for them, they won’t have their own picks for 2-3 years ish.

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