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    Collins would just foul out
    Don't threaten me with a good time.

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    This is why you don’t need rule changes to reduce the number of threes taken. Just call like this!
    moving screens are another one

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    Collins would just foul out
    Even more reason for them to call them

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    New Game Theory Podcast Mock Draft is up


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    Who's ready to party?

    (Teams would never trade with us again if this happened )


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    If the Spurs end up only using one (first round) pick for the night, I’d like them to draft Rasheer Fleming.

    if the Spurs only use two first round picks for the night, I’d like them to draft Rasheer Fleming and Ben Saraf.

    if the Spurs use two first round picks and one second round pick: Fleming, Saraf, Miles Byrd.

    if the Spurs use and keep two first round picks and two second round picks (most unlikely scenario): Fleming, Saraf, Miles Byrd, Thomas Sorber.

    They must come away with Fleming from this draft, tbh. Potential to be the best two way player of the class.

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    If the Spurs end up only using one (first round) pick for the night, I’d like them to draft Rasheer Fleming.

    if the Spurs only use two first round picks for the night, I’d like them to draft Rasheer Fleming and Ben Saraf.

    if the Spurs use two first round picks and one second round pick: Fleming, Saraf, Miles Byrd.

    if the Spurs use and keep two first round picks and two second round picks (most unlikely scenario): Fleming, Saraf, Miles Byrd, Thomas Sorber.

    They must come away with Fleming from this draft, tbh. Potential to be the best two way player of the class.
    Admittedly, I'm not putting the time in this year to put my full BB together and I haven't really scouted Fleming, but I see mocks/big boards having him as a second round pick. I also see his outside shooting has only been good for one season in his career. Do we really think he's worth a 1st rd pick? Wouldn't McNeely or even Karaban be a better fit? I do like Saraf and I haven't watched a minute of Miles Byrd.

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    Personally, I'm looking for a wing that can knock down 3's and a PG. Guys I'd prefer for my two firsts (maybe 3 if Chicago keeps winning) are Demin, Jackucionis (if either falls), Traore, Fland, McNeely, Karaban (if one of our picks ends up around 18-25), Johnson, and Saraf.

    If we don't get a PG with one of our 1st's then I'd be for taking Proctor with an early 2nd.

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    Admittedly, I'm not putting the time in this year to put my full BB together and I haven't really scouted Fleming, but I see mocks/big boards having him as a second round pick. I also see his outside shooting has only been good for one season in his career. Do we really think he's worth a 1st rd pick? Wouldn't McNeely or even Karaban be a better fit? I do like Saraf and I haven't watched a minute of Miles Byrd.
    I think his stock will keep rising and he’ll end up somewhere in the 12-18 range, especially if teams believe in his shot. I definitely do, certainly more than Saraf’s or Demin’s, etc. - a ton of poor shooters in this draft.

    Other than the shot, he’s absolutely great and ready to contribute from day 1. If the Spurs trade Sochan he’d be able to fill the role off the bench right away, cheaply.

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    Who's ready to party?

    (Teams would never trade with us again if this happened )
    Let's ing go!


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    Admittedly, I'm not putting the time in this year to put my full BB together and I haven't really scouted Fleming, but I see mocks/big boards having him as a second round pick. I also see his outside shooting has only been good for one season in his career. Do we really think he's worth a 1st rd pick? Wouldn't McNeely or even Karaban be a better fit? I do like Saraf and I haven't watched a minute of Miles Byrd.

    Think Tari Eason but even better.

    For a few months now I would get hyped about a prospect but then see their defense and come away disappointed.

    Rasheer is one of the few with the full package. Even his demeanor screams Spur. Stone faced and confident.

    there are players with more impressive stat lines currently that get attention, but compared to those guys, Rasheer looks like an NBA guy as opposed to just a college guy. The draft order will shuffle a lot between now and then and just like BG said, Rasheer will be a riser (unless he gets injured or something).

    Saraf I chose as a second 1st rd guy because he plays a position and style different than Rasheer and plays convincingly good. There maybe others in that range I wouldn’t mind drafting as the number 2 guy along with Rasheer.

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    The lottery picks picture is quite clear now.

    The 7 worst teams in the league are basically known. Wizards, Raptors, Hornets, Nets, Pelicans, Jazz and Blazers have all at least 10 more loses than wins. None of these teams seems on it way to get really better. These 7 teams should keep the 7 worst records.

    After these teams, there a bunch of teams fighting for the play-ins: Sixers, Bulls, Hawks, Pistons, Heat, Suns, Spurs, Warriors, Kings... These teams will get picks between #8 and #18/#20.

    Among teams fighting for the play-in, Bulls seems to be the weaker which would mean Spurs won't get the top10 protected Bulls pick this year. After that, it could very well be Spurs or Hawks finishing with the 9th worst record. The 9th worst record has a 20% odd of getting a top4 pick in the lottery.

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    They selected 2 non shooters for the Spurs...

    https://www.youtube.com/live/eqXxTVo...9ihrme6yUCQi3L

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    Think Tari Eason but even better.

    For a few months now I would get hyped about a prospect but then see their defense and come away disappointed.

    Rasheer is one of the few with the full package. Even his demeanor screams Spur. Stone faced and confident.

    there are players with more impressive stat lines currently that get attention, but compared to those guys, Rasheer looks like an NBA guy as opposed to just a college guy. The draft order will shuffle a lot between now and then and just like BG said, Rasheer will be a riser (unless he gets injured or something).

    Saraf I chose as a second 1st rd guy because he plays a position and style different than Rasheer and plays convincingly good. There maybe others in that range I wouldn’t mind drafting as the number 2 guy along with Rasheer.
    The video looks pretty good. I'm not sure about his feel or bbiq, but that's really not as important as a 3D role player. I do really like his size though. He looks at least as big as advertised, maybe a touch bigger.

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    Ask yourself...is that lmao worthy or an actual possibility with PATFO?

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    Ask yourself...is that lmao worthy or an actual possibility with PATFO?
    They stated at the top of the video that they weren't really considering the teams too much when picking.

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    Think Tari Eason but even better.

    For a few months now I would get hyped about a prospect but then see their defense and come away disappointed.

    Rasheer is one of the few with the full package. Even his demeanor screams Spur. Stone faced and confident.

    there are players with more impressive stat lines currently that get attention, but compared to those guys, Rasheer looks like an NBA guy as opposed to just a college guy. The draft order will shuffle a lot between now and then and just like BG said, Rasheer will be a riser (unless he gets injured or something).

    Saraf I chose as a second 1st rd guy because he plays a position and style different than Rasheer and plays convincingly good. There maybe others in that range I wouldn’t mind drafting as the number 2 guy along with Rasheer.
    That stroke is crisp. I like him already.

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    Other than Flagg and probably Harper this may be the worst draft in a long, long time, even worse than last year. The NBA is in trouble if this is the kind of talent coming in.

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    Ask yourself...is that lmao worthy or an actual possibility with PATFO?
    Oh I did and it is 100% a possibility + if you listen they laugh at themselves because they're aware Spurs/Wemby needs shooters

    But that's how much Vecenie like Ben Saraf, because "he does everything else super well"

    It looks like whoever we get will be a long term project anyway bc the real short term dogs will be gone after the lottery...

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    Other than Flagg and probably Harper this may be the worst draft in a long, long time, even worse than last year. The NBA is in trouble if this is the kind of talent coming in.
    Like in soccer, the sport rewards now too much potential vs merit/actual production.

    It won't get better as long as there's one and done and the CBA pays generational money to unproven prospects. You naturally take away a huge part of the development and incentive for the kids.

    There's never been so few real talent in football/soccer and I'm afraid the NBA is taking the same road for the same reasons.

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    Oh I did and it is 100% a possibility + if you listen they laugh at themselves because they're aware Spurs/Wemby needs shooters

    But that's how much Vecenie like Ben Saraf, because "he does everything else super well"

    It looks like whoever we get will be a long term project anyway bc the real short term dogs will be gone after the lottery...
    I think that the odds of getting more than one FRP rookie are really low, unless it's dumb luck and we get top10 picks.
    We won't have any room to around next season and if they haven't taken another rookie last year, they certainly won't do it in this draft.

    I'm fairly convinced they'll either consolidate the picks and trade up or just trade one pick away.
    I just hope it's an actual trade for an existing player and not just for more future picks.

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    Other than Flagg and probably Harper this may be the worst draft in a long, long time, even worse than last year. The NBA is in trouble if this is the kind of talent coming in.
    Every year people talk about how the next year's draft will be a revelation.

    If this year's draft is as bad as last year, with several picks (all likely worse than #8), who knows what the Spurs will do -- they didn't even exercise the 8th pick last year.

    (They could have, and probably should have, taken Topic at that spot.)

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    I think that the odds of getting more than one FRP rookie are really low, unless it's dumb luck and we get top10 picks.
    We won't have any room to around next season and if they haven't taken another rookie last year, they certainly won't do it in this draft.

    I'm fairly convinced they'll either consolidate the picks and trade up or just trade one pick away.
    I just hope it's an actual trade for an existing player and not just for more future picks.
    I think PATFO will keep ST alive by picking a guy who can't shoot "but does everything else ok" because it's so much harder to make a great shooter who can't drive a good ball handler than working on a player's shot.

    Or pick a foreigner tht they'll send in europe for a cple years

    It's sad, cynical but so PATFO

    We have to keep in mind that for all our frustrations and hope for quick roster changes, in PATFO's mind we're right on schedule, maybe even in advance.

    They'll never trade for Fox or any guard imo but only a wing or big with rare(r) skills but nobody with the Spurs profile (forget Beal Ingram or Zion for ex) is available, the only good ones are in team in rebuilding mode with no interest to get rid of them.

    PATFO will stay put and look only for market opportunities that come to them.

    edit/ sorry it's a cross with another thread haha

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    Like in soccer, the sport rewards now too much potential vs merit/actual production.

    It won't get better as long as there's one and done and the CBA pays generational money to unproven prospects. You naturally take away a huge part of the development and incentive for the kids.

    There's never been so few real talent in football/soccer and I'm afraid the NBA is taking the same road for the same reasons.
    It's an increasingly specialized league due to rules changes and ignoring calling the game properly, so players need very restricted skill sets that are hard to find. And, as you say, players are drafted well before they used to be.

    It got dropped like a hot potato, probably because it made expensive, high placed people unhappy, but when Ignite fell apart there was dialogue about how abysmal the AAU system is and how it's wrecking year after year of American players, and that's still a big part of the problem. Players spamming the same moves over and over adding to how narrow the game is now.

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