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    Spurs fans seriously considering players like Beal or Zion shows how much PATFO ruined this fanbase with this roster devoided of talent.
    No, it's that these people are jumpy morons who just want to make trades.

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    He's a lazy fatass who doesn't care about basketball. Ben Simmons had more potential and look at him.
    Zion is a non-shooter and an awful defender even when healthy...and he's never healthy.
    The only people who think he has value are casuals who just watch highlights.

    I wouldn't give him more than a 1 year minimum deal to prove himself.
    Maybe that depends on which franchise he’s in, if he plays for a well established and respected coach who can also impress him in a good way (I’m not specifically talking about Pop), he might change his behavior and take care of his body. And you can’t deny that when healthy nobody can stop him.
    That’s why I agree with Kevin when he says that this can’t happen in NOLA.

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    I tried to tell people Mike Brown needed to go. Kings still need a backup center though. Cam Johnson would be a good addition too.

    Fox is gone. The how and the when TBD. Although, it is starting to sound like the Aldridge Blazers situation when you knew he was gone and the worst kept secret was that he was headed to the Spurs.

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    I tried to tell people Mike Brown needed to go. Kings still need a backup center though. Cam Johnson would be a good addition too.

    Fox is gone. The how and the when TBD. Although, it is starting to sound like the Aldridge Blazers situation when you knew he was gone and the worst kept secret was that he was headed to the Spurs.
    PATFO needs to be aggressive and get him right now while there aren't many interested parties, who knows what can happen in the summer.
    He fills our most important need - lack of consistent paint penetration and self-creation.

    Maybe that depends on which franchise he’s in, if he plays for a well established and respected coach who can also impress him in a good way (I’m not specifically talking about Pop), he might change his behavior and take care of his body. And you can’t deny that when healthy nobody can stop him.
    That’s why I agree with Kevin when he says that this can’t happen in NOLA.
    Some players are just hopeless.
    On the other hand you have Lonzo. Pressured by his lunatic father, drafted to an awfully ran franchise, traded to an even worse franchise, traded again after that, suffered one of the worst injuries the league has ever seen and he still recovered. Solid contributor right away.
    Zion will be homeless at 35, he's just that big of a dumbass.

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    He must be feeling pretty confident that if NOLA cuts him, another team will give him a decent size contract. And I think he’s right actually

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    No, it's that these people are jumpy morons who just want to make trades.
    Definitely. The NBA has conditioned us to value the transactional stuff as much (maybe even more) than the games. We’re in for a rude awakening with this apron crap tho

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    Definitely. The NBA has conditioned us to value the transactional stuff as much (maybe even more) than the games. We’re in for a rude awakening with this apron crap tho
    It's video games as much as anything. Men would rather vote for soulless monsters like Musk and Trump who would tear them apart rather than spend a second talking to a real girl. And they think sports is just EA video games. It's a failure of a society?

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    No, it's that these people are jumpy morons who just want to make trades.
    No, you're just insufferable with your .
    People float ideas out of boredom, noone said go and get Beal for X, Y, Z assets.
    Everyone writes their thoughts, nothing wrong with that as long as they try and put some reasoning behind it.
    Get over it and don't be a child.

    Some suggestions are awful, but you know what's even more awful? PATFO sitting on their asses and doing nothing.
    We lost a lot of value on those Hawks picks already, they were worth way more last summer. They better hope for some more dumb lottery luck yet again.

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    No, you're just insufferable with your .
    People float ideas out of boredom, noone said go and get Beal for X, Y, Z assets.
    Everyone writes their thoughts, nothing wrong with that as long as they try and put some reasoning behind it.
    Get over it and don't be a child.

    Some suggestions are awful, but you know what's even more awful? PATFO sitting on their asses and doing nothing.
    We lost a lot of value on those Hawks picks already, they were worth way more last summer. They better hope for some more dumb lottery luck yet again.
    Those Hawks picks are starting to sting. Do you think the Spurs could have made a deal with the Jazz if they were willing to give up one of both of those last off-season?

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    No, you're just insufferable with your .
    People float ideas out of boredom, noone said go and get Beal for X, Y, Z assets.
    Everyone writes their thoughts, nothing wrong with that as long as they try and put some reasoning behind it.
    Get over it and don't be a child.

    Some suggestions are awful, but you know what's even more awful? PATFO sitting on their asses and doing nothing.
    We lost a lot of value on those Hawks picks already, they were worth way more last summer. They better hope for some more dumb lottery luck yet again.
    Bro, making up trade scenarios for Beal and Zion is the stupidest ever.

    Like, objectively idiotic on every level.

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    Those Hawks picks are starting to sting. Do you think the Spurs could have made a deal with the Jazz if they were willing to give up one of both of those last off-season?
    We could've dumped Keldon and had Markkanen with those Hawks and Minnesota picks.
    People were legit thinking a team that had no incentive to tank whatsoever would give us a top5 pick, lmao.

    We can still get Fox with those picks.
    Hawks also own SAC FRP (1-12 protected), another incentive for them to trade Fox for Hawks picks.

    Bro, making up trade scenarios for Beal and Zion is the stupidest ever.

    Like, objectively idiotic on every level.
    I'm not saying it's not, but at least it's better than spamming YT videos or that idiot who just pops into every game thread to on Wemby.

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    We could've dumped Keldon and had Markkanen with those Hawks and Minnesota picks.
    People were legit thinking a team that had no incentive to tank whatsoever would give us a top5 pick, lmao.

    We can still get Fox with those picks.
    Hawks also own SAC FRP (1-12 protected), another incentive for them to trade Fox for Hawks picks.
    Markannen is unsurprisingly bad this year. Who saw that coming? And coughing up picks for him?

    And Sacto is playing much better without Fox right now. Actually playing defense.

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    Markannen is unsurprisingly bad this year. Who saw that coming? And coughing up picks for him?
    Yeah, really surprising that a player who's playstyle is a better fit for a complementary piece to a real star is playing worse on an awful roster that's actively trying to lose games.
    3ppg less on 1.5 less shots, you're making it sound like he went from 23 to 15ppg. And he's at 22ppg over the past month.

    And that's your biggest issue and why a lot of people in here don't like you.
    It's fine not to like a player, but you subtly try to push your agendas creating completely false narratives while having breakdowns as soon as someone posts something you disagree with.

    And Sacto is playing much better without Fox right now. Actually playing defense.
    Fox has proven his worth over the past years.
    That level of play is more about coaching.
    Fox and Demar are also a bad fit together.

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    Devin Carter could be the player that make SAC trade Fox

    I would if I were them.

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    Given his production Zion is better than a lotto ticket. He's more like a spin on a roulette wheel which pays 36 to 1 but then you're odds of winning are also 36 to 1.
    He's a $140 million spin of the roulette wheel. You wanna bank Wemby's prime on Zion all of a sudden giving a ?

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    Maybe that depends on which franchise he’s in, if he plays for a well established and respected coach who can also impress him in a good way (I’m not specifically talking about Pop), he might change his behavior and take care of his body. And you can’t deny that when healthy nobody can stop him.
    That’s why I agree with Kevin when he says that this can’t happen in NOLA.
    It's not like he was on a trainwreck of a franchise like LeBron in Cleveland his first 7 years. He has always had great role players around him, from Jrue Holiday to Ingram to Lonzo to Hart to McCollum to Trey Murphy III. If he had any work ethic that team would have made a couple of WCF minimum and probably have a ring by now. What you can't deny is he never gave a chance to a great organization that gave him everything he needed to become a winner and in return all they got was a child who had no interest in even trying to make a great situation work. He's so butthurt the Knicks didn't win the lottery and all he has done since is try to eat his way out of New Orleans. What makes you think he'd give any more of a about San Antonio? Even if he did he's not the athlete he was five year ago when he could have been a legit #1 on a le team.

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    Devin Carter could be the player that make SAC trade Fox

    I would if I were them.
    I've been waiting to see how he plays for the Kings once he gets a decent amount of games under his belt. Do you think the Spurs considered him at number 8 at all?

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    I've been waiting to see how he plays for the Kings once he gets a decent amount of games under his belt. Do you think the Spurs considered him at number 8 at all?
    I'm afraid not after taking Castle. It had to be either one.

    Nothing is ever sure but he's one of the closest "sure thing" of the draft and I keep hearing great things about him basketball and character wise.

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    Yes I think the Spurs liked Devin Carter. They were extremely positive about the Carter Castle workout praising both players. I think the selection of Castle made it difficult to take Carter too especially if they already knew they were targeting CP3 which I'm not sure of the timeline but perhaps they were considering that aspect.

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    He must be feeling pretty confident that if NOLA cuts him, another team will give him a decent size contract. And I think he’s right actually
    No one really has cap room to pay him anything near what he’s making now. He’d better hope N.O. Doesn’t cut him, because he’ll never sniff anything close.

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    No one really has cap room to pay him anything near what he’s making now. He’d better hope N.O. Doesn’t cut him, because he’ll never sniff anything close.
    The Nets have projected practical cap space of $91MM, the Wizards $40MM, CHA $30MM, the Spurs $27MM.

    There are a handful of teams who could line up to give Zion a decent payday if he were released... but I don't see any of them doing it, to your point.

    I actually think WAS would be a fun landing spot for Zion, and Zion would seem to fit CHA's broad disfunction well

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    So it looks like the Suns are beating the Jazz tonight and will tie the Spurs in the standings. With the Kings playing really well with a non re coach and the Suns looking more balanced with Beal moving to the bench and scrub as Nurkic sitting on the bench, and the Spurs having a brutal stretch coming up, the Spurs could easily fall a few games back behind the play-in teams.

    Be interesting to see what happens over the next month in the standings leading up to the trade deadline. If the Spurs fall a few games behind the play-in I could see them trading CP3 and going to semi tank mode to get the 8th draft slot. Would also push the Bulls pick down although they might also go into tank mode by trading Lavine and Vucevic.

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    So it looks like the Suns are beating the Jazz tonight and will tie the Spurs in the standings. With the Kings playing really well with a non re coach and the Suns looking more balanced with Beal moving to the bench and scrub as Nurkic sitting on the bench, and the Spurs having a brutal stretch coming up, the Spurs could easily fall a few games back behind the play-in teams.

    Be interesting to see what happens over the next month in the standings leading up to the trade deadline. If the Spurs fall a few games behind the play-in I could see them trading CP3 and going to semi tank mode to get the 8th draft slot. Would also push the Bulls pick down although they might also go into tank mode by trading Lavine and Vucevic.
    If the Spurs try to tank they'll around and sit Sochan and Vassell and end up right back playing .500 ball just like last year.

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    If the Spurs try to tank they'll around and sit Sochan and Vassell and end up right back playing .500 ball just like last year.
    You are right sitting those two probably leads to more wins.

    My idea of tanking would be to start and give heavy minutes to Sochan Keldon and Devin. Also start Castle and of course Wemby. Then find any reason you can to sit Wemby on back to backs etc. Give as many minutes as possible to Branham and Collins off the bench.

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    Those Hawks picks are starting to sting. Do you think the Spurs could have made a deal with the Jazz if they were willing to give up one of both of those last off-season?
    I think you have to match the Mikal Bridges haul cause they are more than fine keeping him and there is no trade request.

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