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Agree 100%, but whom or what would we send back or just waive if we were to make such a trade ?
I mentioned trading Sochan for Durant previously, but I think I probably wouldn't give up that much on second thought. This plus the 2026 Spurs pick with ATL swap and either the 2025 ATL or 2027 ATL plus whatever seconds it would take would be my offer:
Lets you keep Sochan as a sixth man in the role he should be playing and lets you keep Tre to shop for a backup big. Plus Keldon is a proven tank commander for Dybantsa and Boozer. Phoenix might get three picks out of someone but doubt they could get two mid firsts like the Spurs can offer with those two ATL picks.
Agree 100%, but whom or what would we send back or just waive if we were to make such a trade ?
Your suggestion is a fair price if they're to blow it up, but if they want to retool and keep competing they'll want more.I mentioned trading Sochan for Durant previously, but I think I probably wouldn't give up that much on second thought. This plus the 2026 Spurs pick with ATL swap and either the 2025 ATL or 2027 ATL plus whatever seconds it would take would be my offer:
Lets you keep Sochan as a sixth man in the role he should be playing and lets you keep Tre to shop for a backup big. Plus Keldon is a proven tank commander for Dybantsa and Boozer. Phoenix might get three picks out of someone but doubt they could get two mid firsts like the Spurs can offer with those two ATL picks.
Only reason they'd trade Durant is blowing things up though. That roster badly needs torching.
KD is probably close to quitting on them, it's his usual m.o.
Richards is definitely not a bad idea esp with his favorable contract. I know it's a few more years than we'd like, but I'd also look into what Portland might want for Ayton or Williams. Not the best options, but not horrible either for what the Spurs need downlow.
My question would be why is Richards even available?
He averaged 11/10 as a starter.
Williams is back, but he's too injury prone to be relied on.
Spurs should definitely look into it if he's available.
Give them back their fake FRP and one of Sidy/Wesley/Branham.
Last edited by LeBowen; 01-13-2025 at 01:21 PM.
Probably going to be available since his contract will be up next season and he's easily moveable at 5mill but he might be moveable to give more minutes to their decent young big man backup in Diabate.
Not sure who you're saying the FRP should go to but I wouldn't give one up for Richards. Ayton, sure, give them a fake FRP and some team fodder.
Charlotte pick Spurs own converts into two seconds this summer. It's 1-14 protected and Hornets are obviously not making the playoffs, we'll get two seconds instead.
Even without it Spurs have 18 SRPs available over the next 7 drafts, got to start using them sometime.
Unfortunately for the Suns, getting a tank commander won't help them in the Dybantsa/Boozer chase. They've mortgaged their 2026 FRP to the hilt with 3 different swaps (lol Suns). The Wizards have Swap rights to the Suns pick, and THEN Orlando has the right to swap their pick with the least favorable of WAS/PHX, and THEN Memphis has the right to swap their pick with the least favorable of WAS/PHX/ORL.
This is like the pick version of paying off your credit cards with even more credit cards
Just to put into perspective how ed they are.
The only thing that can save the franchise is a Booker to Houston trade. Other than that they're completely ed.
Hard to figure out the price for KD. He turned 36 three months ago with signs of decline. If he was two years younger I'd be all in on KD but at this age I am not so sure. Even with KD the Spurs are still mere pretenders through next season in which Durant turns 37. Asking KD to be a second option the following season at age 38 for a team that might be ready to contend is a stretch.
I wouldn't pay full price for KD because he doesn't fit our window. At a discount I'll take him but there's no reason the Suns wont get full price. If he was only two years younger.
A lot of KD's value would be in mentorship for Wemby, the only player with relatable style to Wemby's.
Wemby's biggest issue right now is learning which shots are bad and how to get into positions for easier shots.
KD definitely doesn't have anything going for him other than basketball and he'll surely play until he's 40.
Yeah, he's past his prime, but he's at 27/6/4 on 52/39/84 which is still top10 worthy.
If Suns blow it up, 2 FRPs is a fair price, I'd rather have KD for 3 years than whoever we draft in #20 to #30 range for their entire career.
We just have to wait for the Suns to blow it up.
If he doesn't want to go back to OKC, Spurs will be his best option because not many teams have the ability to take his salary and trade multiple FRPs.
lol nobody wants this Bonner/Blair trash. None of these "players" will be in the league in 5 years. Spurs FO is re ed that any of these contracts even exist. Hoping to dump them for a KD is wishcastingI mentioned trading Sochan for Durant previously, but I think I probably wouldn't give up that much on second thought. This plus the 2026 Spurs pick with ATL swap and either the 2025 ATL or 2027 ATL plus whatever seconds it would take would be my offer:
Lets you keep Sochan as a sixth man in the role he should be playing and lets you keep Tre to shop for a backup big. Plus Keldon is a proven tank commander for Dybantsa and Boozer. Phoenix might get three picks out of someone but doubt they could get two mid firsts like the Spurs can offer with those two ATL picks.
I think a more win now team like OKC or Houston will out bid the Spurs. He wont be cheap because he could put those asset laden teams over the top. Spurs aren't ready for him. Pass.
Phoenix would hang up the phone.
BWrong: Yo JonesyPhoenix would hang up the phone.
Jonesy: Yo Wrongy
BWrong: I have the 2025 version of Bonner/Blair for sale. Hear me out, they're called Keldon/Collins
Jonesy: Mmmm, y tell me more
BWrong: You give up your best player for these 2, I'll throw in a couple of g-leaguers you never heard of, Branham and Wesley
Jonesy: Tempting, but all I'm doing is eating your
BWrong: But wait, there's more. You can also have 2 FRP in the late 20s and 5 SRP which will ALSO BE OUT OF THE LEAGUE IN 5 YEARS
Jonesy: Bra, can I get a Whataburger franchise with your delusion?
BWrong: Deal
Jonesy: nah I'm good, peace
Last edited by Splits; 01-13-2025 at 02:50 PM.
How do you figure we’re drafting at 20-30?
Because KD trade won't happen before the summer and our 2026 pick is tied to Hawks swap.
If we're not a top10 team by 2027 draft it would be an unmitigated disaster.
Hawks are also young (no pun intended) and won't miss the play-in in horrible East.
They're just there to match $50 million in salary. The picks are what they'd want.
, I was thinking Houston had their 2026 and this trade was under the assumption they had already moved Booker to Houston get their draft capital back.
One minor correct to this table for those who care, the 2030 is another double mortgaged swap not an outright pick going out. WAS has first swap rights with PHX's pick, and then MEM has the right to swap with the least favorable of WAS/PHX. Otherwise they'd had a Stepien rule violation.Just to put into perspective how ed they are.
The only thing that can save the franchise is a Booker to Houston trade. Other than that they're completely ed.
And this is also a good reminder of the Hidden Dragon that is Houston. Not only are they on the right trajectory but they have all of these crazily concocted picks coming their way. For example, in 2029 they get the TWO most favorable of HOU/DAL/PHX. So, don't root too hard for DAL 2030 Swap... because it might also mean that a high DAL29 pick heads to Houston.
I think the only way Phoenix gets their picks back from Houston is with Booker. OKC has shown zero interest in trading picks for players.
I still think OKC would out bid us plus KD just doesn't fit the timeline. I am very much a supporter of consolidating picks for a proven star but not KD. Just a tad too old.
Does anyone really think KD would want to come here to end his career? I highly doubt it.
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