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    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...by-was-offline

    It was never meant for fire fighting. Had it been at full capacity, i probably still would have been a just band aid that would've been ripped off later in the night. Do you read the sources you post?

    You guys still need to decide if
    A. You want more or less government intervention
    B. This is a desert area where water is hard to come by to begin with or not.
    Never claimed it was meant for fighting fire but it would have helped.

    Do you read the sources you post?

    "Had the reservoir been operable, water pressure in the Palisades would have lasted longer on Tuesday night, said former DWP general manager Martin Adams, an expert on the city’s water system."

    "A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

    "Quiñones said four times the usual demand for water on the trunk line over a 15-hour period led to drops in water pressure. Had the Santa Ynez Reservoir been in use in that period, Adams estimated, that demand might have been just three times as high. Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

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    And more reservoirs wouldn't have done anything to "fill the hydrants" -- the bottlenecks in this situation were the storage tanks and towers.
    "A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

    "Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

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    This area has always had issues with fires

    How did they know climate change would do this 60 years ago?

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    Never claimed it was meant for fighting fire but it would have helped.

    Do you read the sources you post?

    "Had the reservoir been operable, water pressure in the Palisades would have lasted longer on Tuesday night, said former DWP general manager Martin Adams, an expert on the city’s water system."

    "A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

    "Quiñones said four times the usual demand for water on the trunk line over a 15-hour period led to drops in water pressure. Had the Santa Ynez Reservoir been in use in that period, Adams estimated, that demand might have been just three times as high. Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...by-was-offline
    OK, what is your schedule for reservoir maintenance for all of LA?

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    And more reservoirs wouldn't have done anything to "fill the hydrants" -- the bottlenecks in this situation were the storage tanks and towers. There will have to be a lot more of them in the future to fight fires like this from hydrants.
    OK, what is your schedule for construction of more tanks and towers for all of LA?

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    OK, what is your schedule for construction of more tanks and towers for all of LA?
    Hey, I think you might actually be understanding this now.

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    She is starting to be right twice a day.

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    Are you in favor of network states, snacks?

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    Never claimed it was meant for fighting fire but it would have helped.

    Do you read the sources you post?

    "Had the reservoir been operable, water pressure in the Palisades would have lasted longer on Tuesday night, said former DWP general manager Martin Adams, an expert on the city’s water system."

    "A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

    "Quiñones said four times the usual demand for water on the trunk line over a 15-hour period led to drops in water pressure. Had the Santa Ynez Reservoir been in use in that period, Adams estimated, that demand might have been just three times as high. Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...by-was-offline
    Why did you leave out the part further down where it probably wouldn't have mattered? Did you not read that part?

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    repost =/= endorsement

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    repost =/= endorsement

    I see the cracks in your wall
    All Snakes ever does is show his crack on this forum.

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    All Snakes ever does is show his crack on this forum.
    Mostly I repost

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    Are you in favor of network states, snacks?

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    Sadistic Republicans want to punish Californians for suffering a natural catastrophe, but somehow extorting Florida to change its ways isn't happening.

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    Why such a slow response?


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    Why such a slow response?

    I would guess already fighting two other fires had something to do with the timing.

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    I would guess already fighting two other fires had something to do with the timing.
    Palisades fire wasn't the first?

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    Palisades fire wasn't the first?
    Not according to Rupert Murdoch's timeline.

    10:33 a.m.: Firefighters report seeing smoke and say they must divert resources from the two other ongoing fires, according to radio traffic.

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    Palisades fire wasn't the first?
    Clarification: wildfire

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...d=BingNewsSerp

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    Former US attorney for Kamala Harris rips Dem Mayor Karen Bass over LA fires: 'Criminal negligence'
    By Emily Crane Published Jan. 15, 2025, 9:47 a.m. ET New York Post

    A Los Angeles resident and former US attorney for Vice President Kamala Harris said Democratic Mayor Karen Bass' handling of the devastating wildfires that have ravaged his community borders on "criminal negligence."


    Michel Valentine, who claims it took fire crews a staggering 45 minutes to drop water after the Palisades Fire first broke out last week, said there is now "no way" he could trust the embattled pol to lead the city.

    "I say it's just wrong. A lot of people are at fault," Valentine told NewsNation.

    "I think Mayor Bass bears the ultimate responsibility for this failure, and I think she should be held accountable. There's no way that I could trust her again as my mayor in light of this tragedy, there's no way."

    The former attorney also managed to film the moment the now-deadly blaze first started ravaging the area.

    Valentine and his wife started recording the fast-moving flames and "intense plume of smoke" billowing near their home in the Pacific Palisades enclave just after they called 911 at about 10:30 a.m. last Tuesday.

    The harrowing footage, obtained by NewsNation's "Elizabeth Vargas Reports," shows the blaze more than doubling in size by the time a chopper appeared overhead to start dousing the flames.

    "It could have been confined," Valentine said of the blaze that is still ravaging the area more than a week later.

    "It wouldn't have touched any of the homes," he continued, adding he had "no idea" what prompted the delay in response time.....

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    LAFD bosses sent just 5 fire engines to Palisades Fire while holding back 1,000 firefighters and 40 trucks in critical first hours
    By Emily Crane Published Jan. 15, 2025, 7:36 a.m. ET New York Post

    Los Angeles fire bosses opted not to deploy 1,000 available firefighters and more than 40 water-carrying engines until after one of the wildfires was burning out of control even as extreme warnings were coming in about life-threatening winds, according to a damning new report.

    Officials held off ordering hundreds of available fire crews to remain on duty for a second shift last Tuesday to help battle flames taking hold in the since-ravaged Pacific Palisades neighborhood, according to internal fire department records obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

    They also only staffed five of the more than 40 fire engines that were available, the records show.

    No extra engines were readied in the Palisades region prior to the fire breaking out there, but nine were pre-positioned in the San Fernando Valley and Hollywood areas, according to the logs.

    The additional manpower was only deployed to the now-destroyed Palisades enclave after the flames had already taken hold, according to the logs.

    "The plan you're using now for the fire you should have used before the fire," former LAFD Battalion Chief Rick Crawford told the outlet. "It's a known staffing tactic a deployment model....

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