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    This team is nowhere near 19 wins already without CP3. He's quietly been our MVP outside of Vic this year tbh.


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    He's just a sheer catalyst. A magical synergistic piece.

    Has turned out to be a of a signing simply because he demands that the young players on the team cut out the dumb they like to do and helps them cut it out. Hopefully, they are learning something to the point where if he is not here to hold their hands and tell them not to be dumbasses next year, they will still be ok.

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    Obviously, he'd had his issues in the playoffs. But just one of the all time floor raisers.

    What LeBron is doing at 40 is nuts. But what Paul is doing at a similar age isn't too far off tbh.

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    Obviously, he'd had his issues in the playoffs. But just one of the all time floor raisers.

    What LeBron is doing at 40 is nuts. But what Paul is doing at a similar age isn't too far off tbh.
    LeBron is stat padding when he can,but no longer affects winning.

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    I really hope CP3 stays for another season. He‘s been great

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    CP3 with high-IQ plays last night. The foul bait he did on Lebron to put Lakers on the penalty in the 4th quarter,the assist to Vassell for a 3 pointer. The several plays where he hunted mismatches for Barnes in the post.

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    I really hope CP3 stays for another season. He‘s been great
    Same. A vet min if we build a winner would be amazing but he probably gets another 1yr 10m as Tre Jones drops off the books either way.

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    Last night was a pretty monumental shift in things, IMO. If we lose against the Lakers, and then slid into a deeper losing streak against MEM, I could easily have seen a scenario where we looking to trade CP3 to a contender (or just bought him out so he could sign with one) and just called it a season. Now we have some feel good momentum coming home for two and that's the furthest thing from our minds.

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    The spurs lack a floor general. Last year the spurs played much better with tre jones than without because Tre can set up simple plays and direct traffic. It’s not a surprise they are that much better with CP3 in place this year.

    For all the issues people have with the roster, what the spurs need to figure out is who will be the future point guard and who will be the backup. Lots of talk about dumping tre jones but he is an excellent backup point who was shoved into the role of a starter last season. With CP3 in place tre has done reasonably well (outside of scoring) in very limited minutes this season. While most think castle will be the long term starter I still think he’d absolutely shine in the point forward role. He’s strong enough to handle most SF, he’s relatively athletic, he can guard PGs so we can afford to have a PG who isn’t the strongest defender and hide him somewhere else (ahem Fox).

    CP3 won’t be effective for long, even if he decides to stay one more season the starting PG role is a glaring hole to me.

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    We might need to actually keep CP3 until he retires. At least for the next season if he still wants to play.

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    The lineup with Castle playing alongside CP3 allows Tre to get some backup minutes. For this season that seems like a good choice.

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    Amazing signing

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    Just dont play him big minutes in B2B games, that will give us diminishing return.

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    Yep. CP3 has been great for the Spurs. I just don't know if the young guys still need a lot more time with him. Half a season definitely isn't enough, but I'm also not sure if the full season will be either. If he doesn't stay (I hope he does), they're going to need to spend resources to get someone anywhere near as good. Also got to be careful of not overplaying him too much. Keep his as fresh as possible for the 4th quarters. I really like the lineup with both Steph and CP3 as I think that they help each other out there.

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    The spurs lack a floor general. Last year the spurs played much better with tre jones than without because Tre can set up simple plays and direct traffic. It’s not a surprise they are that much better with CP3 in place this year.

    For all the issues people have with the roster, what the spurs need to figure out is who will be the future point guard and who will be the backup. Lots of talk about dumping tre jones but he is an excellent backup point who was shoved into the role of a starter last season. With CP3 in place tre has done reasonably well (outside of scoring) in very limited minutes this season. While most think castle will be the long term starter I still think he’d absolutely shine in the point forward role. He’s strong enough to handle most SF, he’s relatively athletic, he can guard PGs so we can afford to have a PG who isn’t the strongest defender and hide him somewhere else (ahem Fox).

    CP3 won’t be effective for long, even if he decides to stay one more season the starting PG role is a glaring hole to me.
    Yeah, everyone wants to dump Tre but he's been pretty good this season and I wouldn't be surprised to see him resigned on something similar to the 2/20 he's finishing now (though I'd hope for something more like 2/14 based on what backup PGs are making these days. That would still be more than double what his brother, who's better than him, makes).

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    CP3 obviously is making sense of the chaos that existed last year without a real point guard. That's not to dis on Tre, but Tre is a good backup point guard and Sochan was not a point guard. But the problem is that CP3 is closer to retiring than being the piece to bring SA back into the playoffs. I hope they rest Paul more because ultimately, it's good that he mentors the young players and shows them how to win, but we need to draft our next point guard. I don't think Castle is the answer at point guard, even though I think he will be a contributing player.

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    Yeah, everyone wants to dump Tre but he's been pretty good this season and I wouldn't be surprised to see him resigned on something similar to the 2/20 he's finishing now (though I'd hope for something more like 2/14 based on what backup PGs are making these days. That would still be more than double what his brother, who's better than him, makes).
    The most realistic outcome is that we retain this roster with a backup big upgrade over Collins and a couple of solid free agents like LaRavia or NAW.
    We'll try to trade up in the draft, won't be able to find a partner, we'll draft a wing with the best pick and kick those other picks all the way to 20232.

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    The most realistic outcome is that we retain this roster with a backup big upgrade over Collins and a couple of solid free agents like LaRavia or NAW.
    We'll try to trade up in the draft, won't be able to find a partner, we'll draft a wing with the best pick and kick those other picks all the way to 20232.
    You are most likely correct. It's like our FO has mind-melded at the idiots who populate the Spurs subreddit and still believe that Devin and Keldon are the core.

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    A quite big surprise with Chris Paul is that he has been able to stay healthy. Injuries were a concern for him this past couple of years.

    Paul came to Spurs with the right mindset. He isn't driven by his ego and isn't trying to prove he still has "it". He is sincerely trying to improve a young team with all his experience.
    A telling stat is the following: Paul played 461 minutes alongside Castle. In these 461 minutes, Castle usage% is 22.2% while Paul usage% is 14.8%. It's remarkable that an all time great is sharing the ball like that with a 20 years old rookie. Kudos to Paul.

    Paul, given his age, is obviously a temporary fix. The issue for Spurs is not to take a step back when he will leave the team.

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    A quite big surprise with Chris Paul is that he has been able to stay healthy. Injuries were a concern for him this past couple of years.

    Paul came to Spurs with the right mindset. He isn't driven by his ego and isn't trying to prove he still has "it". He is sincerely trying to improve a young team with all his experience.
    A telling stat is the following: Paul played 461 minutes alongside Castle. In these 461 minutes, Castle usage% is 22.2% while Paul usage% is 14.8%. It's remarkable that an all time great is sharing the ball like that with a 20 years old rookie. Kudos to Paul.

    Paul, given his age, is obviously a temporary fix. The issue for Spurs is not to take a step back when he will leave the team.
    Whatever we'll lose in experience and game management we'll win in dynamism, ability to attack the rim and who knows maybe start doing pick and rolls to get Wemby easy buckets (which Cp just can't do anymore bc he doesn't have the legs).

    Great addition but mostly because of the poverty of the roster. He's just not reliable on a season long as a starter.

    One season should be enough unless he wants to say and learn the coaching job as a limited PT veteran.

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    They should keep him as the bench PG for next season. That would obviously mean we either trade for Fox, make Castle the PG or draft a PG.

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    Chris Paul went through a sequence last night where he was throwing several cheap shots and I had to go, "Oh yeah, he's on my team now."

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    Can we start addressing the elephant in the room?

    Paul is starting to be a liability at the end of games, he doesn't have the legs to stay on his guy and ends up having to foul too often bc of it.

    He's been more than useful to compensate the absence of vets in this roster, but if he stays, he'll slow down Stephon's development and prevent the team to have a high pace style.

    I'm not sure if he's capable of being satisfied being a 20' backup PG and think it's better if we stop the experience after this season.

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