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    Trae Young isn’t a floor raiser, guys

    Yeah, the Hawks probably could win 15 games in a row, and some people here would still be saying that Trae Young sucks and that they are just getting lucky.
    Man, the Suns really look terrible, though. If Ishbia had any sense he would tell his GM to try and trade KD now (Beal too, if possible) and retool around Booker.

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    The problem is adding them all at once. You can’t give sufficient dev time to three players simultaneously.
    You can stash Saraf or one of the french guys in Europe.

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    Yeah, the Hawks probably could win 15 games in a row, and some people here would still be saying that Trae Young sucks and that they are just getting lucky.
    Man, the Suns really look terrible, though. If Ishbia had any sense he would tell his GM to try and trade KD now (Beal too, if possible) and retool around Booker.
    "Half of a season of games is a tiny sample size! They're one of the worst teams of all time, they have to be! As soon as they're missing their top 5 players you'll see the real Hawks team!"

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    You can stash Saraf or one of the french guys in Europe.
    They have to sign something and agree to it.

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    Yeah, the Hawks probably could win 15 games in a row, and some people here would still be saying that Trae Young sucks and that they are just getting lucky.
    Man, the Suns really look terrible, though. If Ishbia had any sense he would tell his GM to try and trade KD now (Beal too, if possible) and retool around Booker.
    They're not going to trade Booker yet, but they prob should tbh. He turns 29 this year and that team is nowhere near contending for anything. Their entire roster needs to be overhauled. I don't see how PHX could build a contender around him within the next couple years before he starts to decline. They'd prob be better off trading everyone for as much young talent and draft capital as possible considering they sold off all their assets for the foreseeable future to acquire KD and Beal tbh.

    Trading KD to the Rockets for multiple FRP's, including their own FRP's back + BKN's FRP that they own + salary filler like FVV sounds like a good starting point if I were in their shoes. Would much rather KD be a Spur though obviously.

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    All we need to build a contender is to trade for KD and sign CP3 for another year.
    Probably not a le worthy team but they’d be in the conversation.
    Easier said than done I know. Rockets likely have the inside lane for KD.

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    They're not going to trade Booker yet, but they prob should tbh. He turns 29 this year and that team is nowhere near contending for anything. Their entire roster needs to be overhauled. I don't see how PHX could build a contender around him within the next couple years before he starts to decline. They'd prob be better off trading everyone for as much young talent and draft capital as possible considering they sold off all their assets for the foreseeable future to acquire KD and Beal tbh.

    Trading KD to the Rockets for multiple FRP's, including their own FRP's back + BKN's FRP that they own + salary filler like FVV sounds like a good starting point if I were in their shoes. Would much rather KD be a Spur though obviously.
    They can’t overhaul their roster without re-obtaining those picks from Houston, and a 37 YO Kevin Durant isn’t getting that done. There is no way to retool or rebuild around Booker, because he’s the only way they’re getting their picks back. If you wait long enough, Houston will either use or offload those picks, and then you’re well and truly ed when Book demands a trade.

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    Booker never won anything before Chris Paul. He's never won anything after Chris Paul. He's empty stats and not a build-around guy. I'd get picks and pieces from Houston and see if you can salvage the next few years somehow.

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    Booker never won anything before Chris Paul. He's never won anything after Chris Paul. He's empty stats and not a build-around guy. I'd get picks and pieces from Houston and see if you can salvage the next few years somehow.
    That's the best course of action. Then trade KD for market value (I'm guessing 2 frp's at his age) and wait for Beal to request a trade or wait until he expires if no one wants him.

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    If they can get their own picks back from HOU for Booker, and then get 2 FRPs for KD... Beal would actually be the perfect tank commander. He's got plenty of experience in that role. Like a high end Keldon Johnson.

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    If they can get their own picks back from HOU for Booker, and then get 2 FRPs for KD... Beal would actually be the perfect tank commander. He's got plenty of experience in that role. Like a high end Keldon Johnson.
    Beal certainly has the resume of a tank commander. Trading Booker and Durant to bottom out for the next two years while Beal's contract finally runs out would be hilarious. The Suns could bring in Kuzma and get Marcin Gortat to unretire so they can be the Wicked Wizards of the West.

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    Another comfortable win for Hawks today

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    Hawks 13 pick from SAC now higher than the 14 pick they owe us. Plus they have LAL pick at 19. Obviously they could car less about the picks they owe us. We couldn’t even swap them this year.

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    The way Jalen Green is blossoming at 22 yo I wouldn’t even trade him for Booker straight up let alone attach picks.

    If I’m the Rockets I’m going after Durant and give the Suns their two picks back and maybe Jabari or Reed.

    Rockets with KD and the current squad would be filthy.

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    Another comfortable win for Hawks today
    Spurs need to lose enough to get into the lottery with a decent chance at getting a top 4 pick.

    It's the best outcome for this season to add one more top draft pick. Team still needs to add high end talent.

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    The 9th seed in the east is about to enter a stretch where there are likely to lose 3 of the next 4 and 7 of their next 10 before playing us and we're in panic mode here.

    Never change spurstalk...never change...
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    We are almost halfway and as mentioned are best pick is likely to be our own and all we control. On the plus side, shaking up to be the perfect scenario to give Castle a HARD look at PG down the stretch especially if we linger at sub .500 much longer and just as soon pad our loss total while he works through his growing pains.

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    Won without Trae and without Jalen Johnson and Hunter AND Risacher AND Nance and win by 16

    ... Yeah, they're probably not a lottery team

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    Coach is too good.

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    meanwhile we couldn't beat Chicago at full strength

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    Coach is too good.
    also that trae young guy is playing well

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    meanwhile we couldn't beat Chicago at full strength
    We’ve been a weird team vacillating between quality wins and ugly losses to bad teams. Seems like the obvious play is to tank at the end and get some degree below .500 for those lotto balls. Seems like the ATL pick could give us a decent chance for an upgrade on Bassey. A young PF-C with better size who can rebound and rim protect. The wish list on that upgrade is unlikely to include a floor spreading 3 ball shooting big at the 15-20 pick range. I think we need enough roster spot upgrades to consider keeping the pick this time around.

    Though, the potential for a stash pick in round 2 does sound interesting. Like the skinny Markovic kid listed at 6-11 with 39.5% 3 PT shooting.

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    Nice start for the Celtics. Let’s get the hawks back to their losing ways tonight.

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    oh no

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    Mind-boggling how stupid teams play against the Hawks.

    Also, these Celtics are the ugliest good team I've ever seen. Ugly, awful basketball.

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