Around the League / Regular Season Thread (Upstairs Version)

[ambchang]

i think they recognized this which is why they went out and got Hartenstein who is a very good player. he's out now, but if he and Chet are healthy... i dont really know what their weakness is

Agreed. Except the chet part. I don’t see him helping against big physical teams because he does get shoved aside pretty easily. I think he helps more against the quicker smaller teams where he is both quick and tall so he can cover for the smaller quicker players while still being able to get rebounds, not to mention man the paint. But against stronger teams he gets moved out of position too easily on rebounds and his shot blocking gets muted because bigger players tend to shoved into his defender to avoid blocks.

[spurraider21]

Agreed. Except the chet part. I don’t see him helping against big physical teams because he does get shoved aside pretty easily. I think he helps more against the quicker smaller teams where he is both quick and tall so he can cover for the smaller quicker players while still being able to get rebounds, not to mention man the paint. But against stronger teams he gets moved out of position too easily on rebounds and his shot blocking gets muted because bigger players tend to shoved into his defender to avoid blocks.

What if he plays the 4 next to Hartenstein? That’s a ton of collective length

[lefty]

OKC's great advantage once again is they're emerging in an era when there are no great teams. They would get destroyed by the Curry Warriors, the Heatles, or the 2014 Spurs, no contest.

So they are like the 90s Bulls?

[ambchang]

What if he plays the 4 next to Hartenstein? That’s a ton of collective length

That would be good but it’s not really him helping out against big physical players.

OKC is incredible in perimeter defence, I haven’t looked but would imagine players like Giannis and nuggets would eat vs them. Too bad the surrounding players for bucks and nuggets aren’t even close to the OKC supporting players.

Chet’s biggest attribute is how mobile he is given his length. Hartenstein is big and physical but still relatively mobile, just amazing how OKC can sign him for so cheap. $29m per is Vassell money.

[LeBowen]

Executives from three different NBA franchises confirm that the Cleveland Cavaliers are trying to trade for Cameron Johnson. The Cavaliers have “serious interest” in acquiring the Brooklyn Nets forward.

Meanwhile Brian Wright can't get over himself and likes what we have.

[scott]

Very off-topic, but anyone planning on checking out the Unrivaled debut tonight? Kind of wild that the WNBA is letting it's star players play in this, though the average salary for Unrivaled is higher than the average salary in the WNBA so I'm not sure how they would stop them

[tonight...you]

I wonder if this same thought process went through exstatic's mind when he mused aloud that SAC would just give us Keon Ellis for cheap.

But... Larry Bird was white, you know.

When did Larry Bird become white?!

Holy ...

[ambchang]

When did Larry Bird become white?!

Holy ...

After he got the same plastic surgeon Michael Jackson did.

[ace3g]

[lefty]

Offensive GOAT doing offensive GOAT thing

[tonight...you]

After he got the same plastic surgeon Michael Jackson did.

lol

[onechance87]

nick richards with a big game for suns after the trade from hornets.Meanwhile our front office remains dog .

[ace3g]

[KingKev]

This dunk contest is going to be turrrrable

Hope to see Jalen Green atleast.

[LeBowen]

Deafening silence around the league, tbh.
16 days until the deadline, so many teams desperate to make a move one way or another and yet nothing is happening.

Feels like Jimmy and Cam Johnson are the big prizes, after those two trades are done other teams will pivot towards more realistic targets.

[Mr. Body]

Deafening silence around the league, tbh.
16 days until the deadline, so many teams desperate to make a move one way or another and yet nothing is happening.

Feels like Jimmy and Cam Johnson are the big prizes, after those two trades are done other teams will pivot towards more realistic targets.

Those are two pretty unimpressive prizes, all told. One problem is how bad teams can no longer carry cap space into the season. Makes it hard for teams to grease the wheels to get things done.

[ace3g]

[BatManu20]

PHX going after Jimmy Butler?

[Robz4000]

Gotta be the precursor to a Butler trade.

[scott]

Fascinating trade, as it unlocks the next 6 drafts for them in terms of tradeable assets. Now they can trade PHX26, PHX28 or PHX30, or the 3 picks they just acquired (which aren't great and aren't worth much, as evidenced by the cost to acquire them).

[scott]

To be honest, wouldn't mind seeing the Spurs do something similar with picks like ATL25 (likely to be back half) and CHI25 (growing risk of not conveying). Ship has sailed on CHA25, but if we could send of ATL25, CHI25 and CHA25 for something like LAC30 + LAC31 swap, I'd be down.

Edit: to be clear, I'd prefer we use those picks to acquire a player, but this wouldn't be a bad backup plan (and we could also turnaround and use the acquired pick for a player, LAC30 would be worth more than ATL25 or CHI25)

[spurraider21]

Fascinating trade, as it unlocks the next 6 drafts for them in terms of tradeable assets. Now they can trade PHX26, PHX28 or PHX30, or the 3 picks they just acquired (which aren't great and aren't worth much, as evidenced by the cost to acquire them).

keep in mind their 26/28/30 picks are all swapped and i think some or all of them are swapped twice

[scott]

keep in mind their 26/28/30 picks are all swapped and i think some or all of them are swapped twice

The 2028 pick in particular has hilarious levels of conditions attached to it. I've read them a few times and still not sure I completely understand it.

[scott]

This is seems to be quite obviously setting up a Butler deal where PHX pays MIA for Butler with picks and pays a third team to take Beal.

Who is ready for a Brian Wright special? What number does Beal wear for the Spurs if Paul has #3 locked up?

[Guru of Nothing]

Does the Phoenix deal take some air out of the sails of the Rockets war chest? I tried to decipher all the swap rules associated with picks and quickly gave up.

Can I get a Houston?