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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Too bad there's only the one shooting coach in the entire world.

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    The situation is much more serious than you'd think.

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    Primo vs senguin was an absolute show

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    Too bad there's only the one shooting coach in the entire world.
    that's not the point, he's the best in the game and we have Jimmy Baron who has no credentials.

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    Too bad there's only the one shooting coach in the entire world.
    Chip literally changed the careers of TP9 and Nephew.

    Since he joined OKC, players that couldn't shoot or were average have become elite.

    You think it's just a correlation?

    I don't.

    edit/ Of course it's not the only reason but if you ulate it to the rest of the corporate knowledge that left...

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    Im my view everything reset the moment we got Wemby. The existing players turned from potential building blocks to assets, and they’ve been evaluating what they have. One or two may stick long term, but what really matters is the drafting going forward (so far Steph looks great).

    Not saying they shouldn’t be scrutinized for their late lotto sections in these years, but the reality is that those picks don’t really matter anymore (or they matter to the extent they can be moved).

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    People think all our young players suck and then think we can just trade them for good players.

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    Im my view everything reset the moment we got Wemby. The existing players turned from potential building blocks to assets, and they’ve been evaluating what they have. One or two may stick long term, but what really matters is the drafting going forward (so far Steph looks great).

    Not saying they shouldn’t be scrutinized for their late lotto sections in these years, but the reality is that those picks don’t really matter anymore (or they matter to the extent they can be moved).
    I agree. We were building before Wemby with no real set idea of where we'd be in 5 years.

    After Wemby, the goal is crystal clear: les.

    PATFO should hold NO loyalty to guys like Branham. I wouldn't even have loyalty to a guy like Vassell if I didn't truly believe he has the make of a perfect #3 on a contender.

    I'm too busy to watch many other teams or prospects too closely, but I think it's clear what we need right now.

    We need a stretch 5 like nobody's business (or stretch 4, if you will, but they need outside shooting, size, rebounding, and a high IQ) first and foremost. WE need to be doing the type of spacing the best teams nowadays do thanks to the way the NBA rules work.

    Castle is a guy who can get into the paint consistently but he needs an outside jumpshot. However his archetype (with at least an average outside shot) is the other missing piece in the SL.

    If we can somehow draft a stretch 4/5 type, that'd be ideal as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully Steph can improve his jumpshot markedly (at least in consistency) over the course of the remainder of this season and the off-season.

    Guys like Sochan should be shown zero loyalty for both trade deals and incoming draftee(s).

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    Im my view everything reset the moment we got Wemby. The existing players turned from potential building blocks to assets, and they’ve been evaluating what they have. One or two may stick long term, but what really matters is the drafting going forward (so far Steph looks great).

    Not saying they shouldn’t be scrutinized for their late lotto sections in these years, but the reality is that those picks don’t really matter anymore (or they matter to the extent they can be moved).

    Wasn't last season enough to evaluate them?

    They apparently did and thought they deserved to all come back and even extended Brahman and Wesley...

    At some point we need to stop living in the past and realize this isn't the PATFO of old times, talent evaluation and players development are just awful and it's not a surprise considering all the personnel lost in recent years.

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    We need some roster churn to the tune of at least 4-6 new faces, SOON.

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    You watch that game and ask yourself: are Vassell & Sochan any different players from their rookie or sop re seasons? What else left to see from "the let's see what we have in this young core" headlined by this duo. Third year largely cements a player status/tier in this league and that's what's they are.

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    You watch that game and ask yourself: are Vassell & Sochan any different players from their rookie or sop re seasons? What else left to see from "the let's see what we have in this young core" headlined by this duo. Third year largely cements a player status/tier in this league and that's what's they are.
    In my opinion, Vassell has significantly regressed since last season. He got paid and ain't that good anymore, huh!

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    In my opinion, Vassell has significantly regressed since last season. He got paid and ain't that good anymore, huh!
    A lot of fans just look at players in a vacuum but the difference in playstyle most often dictates a players performance. There is significantly less screening and handoff actions making Devin an odd fit with this new Wemby and Castle being more favored. Everything is fit outside of the top 10 players. It is no coincidence that KJ is thriving with this increased pace.

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    I am hoping that Vassell will be able to rebound from his foot surgery next season and I’m hoping it is just a mental pain issue. If that is not the case then he needs to definitely be either traded or regulated to sixth man but hoping for the best. I think though the biggest issue is loosing Pop so suddenly as that threw everything up in the air as we are now looking at having to make major decisions without any input from who ever our future coach is.

    As far as players I agree I think we have seen everyone true colors and we can and should easily replace 3 to 5 players for next season. We though desperately need to put a great coaching staff together all the way from head coach to the G League.

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