It is time to address Wembanyama’s occasional soft and lazy play…

[polandprzem]

Not even DAF86 can deny that Wemby is playing a soft brand of basketball right now . Just look at the minutes/Free throw Attempts columns. The last two games are flat out shameful for a 'franchise big' and it should ring few alarm bells.

Nothing new. He is not strong enough and is not willing to get his hands dirty inside. He plays outside. That's his game.

[ambchang]

You simply are an idiot tbh. At least get the facts straight. Or quote an actual post.

Your av pic is you I suppose

For somebody to trains like the hulk I’m surprised you are so sensitive.

[John B]

Not even DAF86 can deny that Wemby is playing a soft brand of basketball right now . Just look at the minutes/Free throw Attempts columns. The last two games are flat out shameful for a 'franchise big' and it should ring few alarm bells.

I don’t know why Spurs want Wemby to bait foul. He’s averaging 35.2 mpg playing the best two-way in the league, leading the team in scoring and the league in blocked shots, contesting even 3’s. Why risk injuries on the franchise player banging low? He’s not a finished product and still very much getting bigger, NBA stronger. Till then I’d bubblewrap this kid. The Spurs would be among the worst teams without Wemby.

[polandprzem]

For somebody to trains like the hulk I’m surprised you are so sensitive.

Lazy bum like you knows best

[Sugus]

Not even DAF86 can deny that Wemby is playing a soft brand of basketball right now . Just look at the minutes/Free throw Attempts columns. The last two games are flat out shameful for a 'franchise big' and it should ring few alarm bells.

It's plenty easy to "deny" (debunk, rather), and your myopic analysis is almost enough debunking by its stupid self.

Imagine judging whether the 21YO, DPOY-to-be & first scoring option, is "soft" or not based on his free throws? In an NBA where the softest of players are most often rewarded with free throws themselves as they foul-bait to get them...

Yeah, I'm sure Wemby is softer than "hard and tough" players like Harden or Embiid just because he didn't land FTs in two games, against a top defensive team, while trying to carry the team on both ends..... How long until your "Inside the NBA" apparition?

Welp, hate how this "soft" narrative is starting to catch on on twitter.

Ahh, you're getting your from Xitter. Should've known, it was obvious.

[Pauleta14]

Give me top10 energy expenditure players in NBA

Are you really asking me to answer the rhetorical question I just asked you?

Nice one

[Pauleta14]

You simply are an idiot tbh. At least get the facts straight. Or quote an actual post.

Your av pic is you I suppose

We can disagree on some and agree on other topics, you nailed it on this one...

[polandprzem]

Are you really asking me to answer the rhetorical question I just asked you?

Nice one

Rhetorical question?


I asked you if you want it in watts ? But you haven't yet give me a base for the measurements.

If you have in no way platform to measure what you asked me it means that you talk right from your ass. But whatever dude.

[Pauleta14]

Rhetorical question?


I asked you if you want it in watts ? But you haven't yet give me a base for the measurements.

If you have in no way platform to measure what you asked me it means that you talk right from your ass. But whatever dude.

I did describe it tho...

A player that has a bigger importance and more focus from the opposite team on both ends combined with less help.

Not sure how any data can help, just give me a few names if you can. It shouldn't be tough

[polandprzem]

I did describe it tho...

A player that has a bigger importance and more focus from the opposite team on both ends combined with less help.

Not sure how any data can help, just give me a few names if you can. It shouldn't be tough

Do not change your question.

You was talking about energy expenditure.

So I would like to know how you measured it?


On the other hand Wemby does not have to face as much double teams like Shai or Cade Cunningham with playmaking and taking care of the ball. Curry is playmaking and running the screens etc. So tbh idk how much more Wemby does when he is no 18 in scoring and 8 in rebs. number 60in FG%.

As much as he have to do. Still he is not the one and only player that using more energy then others.

[scott]

My expectation is that Wemby will have another mediocre game Sunday against MIA, and then go nuclear for two games in Paris.

[LeBowen]

So I would like to know how you measured it?

He's involved in every single play on defense and his sheer presence deters so many shots that would've been attempted against any other big.
He very rarely gives up on defensive plays and contests he could've been involved in, runs out to 3pt line to contest even whe he doesn't have a chance to block the shot etc.

On the other hand Wemby does not have to face as much double teams like Shai or Cade Cunningham with playmaking and taking care of the ball. Curry is playmaking and running the screens etc. So tbh idk how much more Wemby does when he is no 18 in scoring and 8 in rebs. number 60in FG%.

Are you watching the game? Whenever he has the ball inside the 3pt line, there are at least 2 defenders on him, often times he's collapsing 3 or 4 opponents into the paint.
While guards that bring the ball up while pressured expend more energy to get there, playing in the paint is still way harder because he constantly gets pushed and pulled out of position. Even worse for Wemby because he's got no strength whatsoever.

He obviously needs to improve his conditioning and get stronger over the next few years, but some of you have ridiculous expectations of a 21 year old who's already by far the best defender in the league and an all-star on offense.
I'd even say that him struggling while we're not good yet is better because it will push him to improve even more and it's easier for PATFO to get their heads out of their asses and make some moves.

This roster is horrible and making the playoffs just because other play-in candidates are also seriously struggling would mask the issues and wouldn't force them to make difficult decisions in the summer.

[z0sa]

I don’t know why Spurs want Wemby to bait foul. He’s averaging 35.2 mpg playing the best two-way in the league, leading the team in scoring and the league in blocked shots, contesting even 3’s. Why risk injuries on the franchise player banging low? He’s not a finished product and still very much getting bigger, NBA stronger. Till then I’d bubblewrap this kid. The Spurs would be among the worst teams without Wemby.

The Spurs are among the worst teams WITH Wemby. When is that going to change is really the pressing question that every legit Spurs fan has to be wondering right now tbh

[polandprzem]

He's involved in every single play on defense and his sheer presence deters so many shots that would've been attempted against any other big.
He very rarely gives up on defensive plays and contests he could've been involved in, runs out to 3pt line to contest even whe he doesn't have a chance to block the shot etc.



Are you watching the game? Whenever he has the ball inside the 3pt line, there are at least 2 defenders on him, often times he's collapsing 3 or 4 opponents into the paint.
While guards that bring the ball up while pressured expend more energy to get there, playing in the paint is still way harder because he constantly gets pushed and pulled out of position. Even worse for Wemby because he's got no strength whatsoever.

He obviously needs to improve his conditioning and get stronger over the next few years, but some of you have ridiculous expectations of a 21 year old who's already by far the best defender in the league and an all-star on offense.
I'd even say that him struggling while we're not good yet is better because it will push him to improve even more and it's easier for PATFO to get their heads out of their asses and make some moves.

This roster is horrible and making the playoffs just because other play-in candidates are also seriously struggling would mask the issues and wouldn't force them to make difficult decisions in the summer.

Not me if you refers to my post.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Nothing new. He is not strong enough and is not willing to get his hands dirty inside. He plays outside. That's his game.

Tired of this excuse... He is 7'5 245... He should be able and willing to back down Fred Vanvleet... When he passed the ball out without even attempting to back him down I was shocked

[Pauleta14]

Do not change your question.

You was talking about energy expenditure.

So I would like to know how you measured it?


On the other hand Wemby does not have to face as much double teams like Shai or Cade Cunningham with playmaking and taking care of the ball. Curry is playmaking and running the screens etc. So tbh idk how much more Wemby does when he is no 18 in scoring and 8 in rebs. number 60in FG%.

As much as he have to do. Still he is not the one and only player that using more energy then others.

I don't think there is a way to find this data, but it doesn't matter, just asking for your opinion if u had other players in mind. Just naked eye impression...

So SGA Cade and Curry? Really?

None of them are a target on defense, none have the same activity nor production. Not even close

SGA is the closest that make sense but he is surrounded by the best defenders in the league and u wanna compare with Wemby who's by himself?

Curry onlyever played on one side of the floor so I don't even get why u named him tbh.

Cade? Really? Teams are waiting to play Cade? He's a target? Come on bro...

Kawhi is the only name I can find that was impacting both ends at elite levels and even him was always better surrounded = not the sole target of opp teams.

You're making my point with your answer, despite all his limitations what Wemby is already doing in year 2 is not normal and nobody can name a present (or even past player tbh) that has to deal with the same type of advercity when you combine both ends ...

He deserves his lot of criticism, there's still a child in him clearly, he needs to grow up and guess what? He's doing it rather faster than the average human.

Let's focus on what's wrong with the rest of the roster and FO maybe?

[ambchang]

Lazy bum like you knows best

That’s the point, I didn’t know which is why I never thought you’d be sens ve and I was wrong. So does that mean I’m not a lazy bum? And since you you know best in how to train me y does that make you a lazy bum? But then if you are a lazy bum does that mean you aren’t as big as you make yourself out to me on the Internet when there aren’t any proofs?

[ambchang]

We can disagree on some and agree on other topics, you nailed it on this one...

No surprises you picked the wrong side even though the forum has a search function.

You simply are an idiot tbh. At least get the facts straight. Or quote an actual post.

Your av pic is you I suppose

Sure, you want quotes?

Yea well 30 pds of muscle .... okay


Tbh he should gain more strength in the gym. Those excercises they showed are okay but that abs was weak. bear crawl needs to be done better as the pushups. I think him gaining 20pds first year would be nice

For a 19yro dude not liftingt weights as a sporstman is a crime. He can do flexability work as much as he wants but the body will not take much if not strong.

core stength is not enough

That is so wrong on many levels tbh. You jyst like timvp has no idea how ut works with body development.

Tbqh he is weak inside as I took a look. So it us critical fir him to get stronger. If those exercises they showed are the only one he trains. With all flexability stretch work. They need to find anither coach.
I think in NBA they do know better.

Anyway you di nit separate prigrans to natural and unnatural. They are designed.
In NBA you do have good enhancements but then if your image is pumpin iron kinda sessions... Nope.

To develop strength you do not need juge muscles but they come in handy. And to build muscles it is hard to do when you are basketball player. He would have to go 2 years without basketball to gain muscles and then strength to be satisfying for the nba level as I can see.

Its a shame that at 19 he was not introduced to weights.

Things he needs most are mobility work hypertrophy work then strength going to power abd then speed.

Not also he lacks strength but his knees are bad. Foot butt and legs a must.

20pds by his second season is a must imo. And not much more.

Wembys has to gain strength, lol. But I didn’t get the facts straight. What is it? Wemby doesn’t have to gain strength now? And before you act like drax and act like having no idea how to read sarcasm, some 7’5” schwarzaneggar means a big guy by gaining 20lbs of muscles.

[ginobilized]

I think Sochan's activity on bigs helps Wemby in ways that Barnes cannot. I want to pay more attention to the rotations, but, they missed him defensively recently. His lateral movement, hustle and grit are much needed.

So many times against Memphis that Wemby breaks up or disrupts 3-4 plays only to be defending 2 bigs as the shot clock winds down. JJJ and Edey against Wemby is tough.

An elite PF is still my dream for this team. JJJ, Markkanen, Naz Reid, etc. Someone with size, 3-ball, rebounding, and D.

[DAF86]

Not even DAF86 can deny that Wemby is playing a soft brand of basketball right now . Just look at the minutes/Free throw Attempts columns. The last two games are flat out shameful for a 'franchise big' and it should ring few alarm bells.

Why would I deny it? I'm one of the most vocal critics about Wemby shooting so damn 3's and playing so far away from the basket, tbh.

[Donald Sterling.]

Same dude I trolled last summer lmao. How did you like the sandwich?

and I remember you as the guy who burned his abuela's savings on the mavs last Finals.

Widow

[widowmaker]

and I remember you as the guy who burned his abuela's savings on the mavs last Finals.

Widow

Wrong guy. How was that meat sandwich?

[Brazil]

You simply are an idiot tbh. At least get the facts straight. Or quote an actual post.

Your av pic is you I suppose

polish and racist of course

[polandprzem]

No surprises you picked the wrong side even though the forum has a search function.



Sure, you want quotes?









Wembys has to gain strength, lol. But I didn’t get the facts straight. What is it? Wemby doesn’t have to gain strength now? And before you act like drax and act like having no idea how to read sarcasm, some 7’5” schwarzaneggar means a big guy by gaining 20lbs of muscles.

Your IQ sure is low.

I pointed out Wemby needs strength. 20pds by his second season with increased strength . I said it before season one. Which he did. I was right.


You made up Schwartzenegger - so be it. Not my problem you do not have any idea of human physique and how it works.

[polandprzem]

Tired of this excuse... He is 7'5 245... He should be able and willing to back down Fred Vanvleet... When he passed the ball out without even attempting to back him down I was shocked

At least he has not been pushed around by PG this season like the last one.

IMO he will develop his inside game more on offense when he gets more strength, but even now he should be able to shoot over them making quicker decision.