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Take away the Atlanta and Chicago picks. So whiles it’s sochan plus, 2 FRP plus salary, reality it’s sochan, 1 low teens pick and 2 SRPs for him.
I could see the Spurs sign Zion in 2035 as a spark off the bench with Wemby trying to win his 7th ring...
Take away the Atlanta and Chicago picks. So whiles it’s sochan plus, 2 FRP plus salary, reality it’s sochan, 1 low teens pick and 2 SRPs for him.
I see Jake Fischer has some interesting tidbits regarding Cam Johnson. To sum it up the Pacers and Kings are the main suitors right now. The Nets want a young player and 2 firsts (although he didn't comment on protections for those picks). The best offer they currently are known to have is Heurter + lyles + 1 first. That's the current benchmark.
I think that's Kings offer is the kind (if it's the best available) the Nets just say it and roll into the offseason with Cam to
Net's don't need any more middling FRPs this year, they've already got 4 (3 of which are currently projected from #22-27). The earliest SAC pick they could trade anyway would be 2028, and it would be dependent on the pick they owe to ATL conveying prior to 2027, or it would have to be pushed to 2029. If I'm BKN I probably want SAC2030 anyway to just play the natural variance of the pick.
IND owes a 2026 with very light protection (1-4 which carries into 2027 as well) to TOR, and that pick is highly likely to convey. IND is a young team on the rise, so another situation where you probably want to get as late as possible from them. I wonder if BKN would go as far to ask for Mathurin. I wouldn't do that deal if I'm IND, but who knows. Sheppard (23) and Walker (21) are IND's other prime young assets. I wonder how BKN would view Sochan in your idea to get involved in that if it could return Walker and Nesmith.
I think Sochan plus Chicago's pick + a pick swap of our best this year for one of their's this year would get the job done either for Cam coming to us or getting those assets out of the 3-team deal from indy.
Nets- Sochan + Collins + Branham + Chicago 1st + our 1st
Spurs- Cam + Sharpe + NY 1st
Or
Nets - Sochan + Collins + Branham + Chicago 1st + Indy 2028 1st
Indy- Cam + Wesley
Spurs- Obi + Walker + Nesmith + Sharpe + 1st
Last edited by mo7888; 01-19-2025 at 03:33 AM.
It looks like Pat Williams is on the block now-fyi
2 years too late, classic Bulls
Anybody for:
Bulls- Collins + Branham + Wesley + their 1st back
Spurs: Williams + Smith
Spurs should be up on every 3-and-D wing 27 and under tbh. We need at least 2 more of these.
Patrick Williams has never looked like he was going to become anybody tbh. Which probably means he'll be the big trade the Spurs make. Like the 2020s version of when they got Samaki Wanker.
Last edited by baseline bum; 01-19-2025 at 12:39 PM.
Feels like trading warm bodies for warm bodies and you lose a pick. I'll pass.
Regarding Patrick Williams:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2...ls-trade-block
I'm not sure what there is behind that but I doubt that adding Williams to a team that already isn't playing smart is a good idea.the source said Williams hasn’t been easy to work with. As is the case with most NBA teams, individual coaches are matched up with individual players, and there has been frustration on both sides with previous matchups. The source stressed that Williams hasn’t been volatile or difficult in terms of his behavior. It’s more about him not being completely comfortable to buy in to what’s being communicated.
Spurs most likely have four players as untouchable, Wemby, Vassell, Sochan and Castle
Most likely they want to trade Collins if they can find any takers.
Biggest task right now for the Spurs is to find players/rotations that work when Wemby is on the bench.
Here's a trade idea:
Make trades while the team is on it's flight to Paris, so when they land some of these scrubs have to just hangout in the American Express Lounge until their flight home boards.
Or even better see if Tony and Boris can pull some strings and get us a few players from French league, it's not like they can be any worse than some of the charity cases on our team.
If the Spurs want to move on from Tre Jones, they might try offering him to the Pistons, who could need another solid PG now that Ivey is injured.
If you were the Pistons why would you want Tre Jones???
If it's just to bring the ball past half court they can use their roster who I'm pretty sure don't have any midget who can't shoot
He's on a $10M expiring contract, no way Raptors take Collins.Two teams interested in Toronto’s Chris Boucher (who has a very quiet 6th Man of the Year case) are San Antonio and Denver. The Spurs are ready to upgrade their non-Wemby minutes at center, and Denver desperately needs more rotation players.
I think Tre for Boucher is a reasonable trade, then they can find a third team to take Tre for some seconds.
I’d rather use Tre as a small incentive to help unload Zollins or Keldon or as salary filler in a bigger deal or just let him walk come summer.
Boucher is not a name I would have expected to hear, at least not in the Backup C discussion.
He's undersized, not really a rim protector and not really that great of a rebounder. If he's being looked at more as a stretch 4, that would make a lot more sense (similar to a John Collins).
He's also on an expiring, which begs a few questions:
1. So we are trying to make a playin push? If not, why bring in a rental? One explanation would be that the team is completely fed up with the incompetence of the bench unit and just wants someone to raise it to a level of decency so as not to throttle development of the other players (if so, welcome to the opinion you should have had 18 months ago).
2. Do the Spurs like him as a multi-year role player? If so, why not just wait until the offseason? Also, he's 32, what are the Spurs seeing there?
3. Are we looking at it the wrong way, and perhaps TOR is interested in something of ours and Boucher would be the compensation we'd be interested in taking back? For example, Sochan for Boucher works in the trade machine. Maybe TOR is interested in Sochan and the Spurs have said we'll take Boucher and draft compensation? I'm not advocating for this, I'm just trying to think of an explanation.
I do find it fascinating that the Spurs and Raptors keep exchanging parts back and forth between each other.
Boucher can play PF and smallball C. He shoots 36% from 3 and dropped 23 with 12 boards on the Cavs. We only have like 2 players on our whole roster who can do that. He's a net positive and the Raptors best bench player. Would definitely be an upgrade.
If you want to free up some cap space for the offseason get Bruce Brown and include Zach Collins in the deal.
I’ll also add that the Toronto Raptors (aka the Craptors) and us are besties. Get it done PATFO.
RIP TD 21
Zollins for Coby straight up. Who says no.
if Brian Wright is smart he will jump on that.
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