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    And I will point out that even if Devin shot 50/40 instead of 69/83, it still would have been a great game by him. He's at his best when he is decisive and acts quickly on the offensive end (which he did tonight) and puts the effort in on the defensive end (which he also did tonight). I agree, best game of the season from Dev.

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    Other teams announcers always seem impressed with his play on offense and has had some nice stuffs on D lately. His team friendly deal - declining salary - make him either a valuable trade chip or decent roster piece. Last year he was on most posters untouchable trade piece list, actually. In a deal that got us a true #2 and offloaded someone like KJ or Collins is obviously a trigger pull. Provided the thrown in draft capital that also likely includes is not excessive.

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    In point total, maybe, but not in efficiency. Even TimGPT has been handing him C- and D grades. Today was different, he was an A player. If he could play like this consistently, I'd be a fan.
    Let's not overlook being able to produce numbers despite your efficiency being up and down. That's what separates true secondary options from role players: still being able to put up the raw production despite an uneven night in terms of efficiency. There's a huge difference between scoring 11 pts on 40% shooting and scoring 20 on 40% shooting.

    This team is severely lacking in guys that can put up 20+ on a night to night basis, Vassell being able to do that consistently is a huge boost.

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    Let's not overlook being able to produce numbers despite your efficiency being up and down. That's what separates true secondary options from role players: still being able to put up the raw production despite an uneven night in terms of efficiency. There's a huge difference between scoring 11 pts on 40% shooting and scoring 20 on 40% shooting.

    This team is severely lacking in guys that can put up 20+ on a night to night basis, Vassell being able to do that consistently is a huge boost.
    You are definitely correct in that regard, but I'll still contend that Devin was pretty bad in some of those games where he put up 20+. I think I'd rather have him be good and score 14 points than be bad and score 23... but that also requires we have some other guys who can contribute on the scoring end, and the cupboard is pretty bare right now.

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    Well he‘s definitely rounding into form. Now I want to see if he can keep it up consistently

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    Less is more with Devin. Despite the salary optics, he should play more like Champ imo. Spot up. Cut. A few dribbles. He over dribbling is ineffective and only increases his injury opportunities. Just saying. He can be great in that role.

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    He wants to be "the guy" so bad but hes not the guy its wemby.

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    He wants to be "the guy" so bad but hes not the guy it’s wemby.
    I think this was the case last year, but now the pecking order is set. It’s human nature tbh. You can be great at your profession, but when you join a new situation (new job, new city, managing a new team) you have to prove it to your new guys at some level before they get in line. Wemby left no doubt after last year.

    With Dev, it’s more a confirmation of who he is and who he isn’t. He’s a gunner (some times a great one), but with many limits in other areas like feel for the game.

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    I hope Dev continues to play like the last game, aggressive. Because I still like Champ as a better complimentary player to Wemby with his length and defense on top of a 3pt threat. Champ’s game has really suffered going back to the second squad

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    You can see what Dev is trying to do. 1. Make more of the right passes 2. Play harder 1-1 defense 3. Take the right shot. It’s visible even from a TV screen - that’s saying a lot.

    No I don’t think he’s trying to be the alpha. He’s trying to help his team win. He knows he’s being evaluated, like EVERYONE, for their fit with Wemby. These guys aren’t dumb. He also knows who he is - a sharpshooter, and nothings ever going to change that. And we don’t want him to - just the 3 aspects above.

    Because of that I’m really proud of him these last few games. He’s at least trying super hard. I’ve got faith in him he’ll make the improvements necessary, but at the same time it is far from guaranteed. Good luck Dev!

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    Less is more with Devin. Despite the salary optics, he should play more like Champ imo. Spot up. Cut. A few dribbles. He over dribbling is ineffective and only increases his injury opportunities. Just saying. He can be great in that role.
    he needs someone to apply rim pressure to get those shots consistently. Until we don‘t have a quick PG he‘s gonna have to create shots for himself.

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    he needs someone to apply rim pressure to get those shots consistently. Until we don‘t have a quick PG he‘s gonna have to create shots for himself.
    Also true.

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    Well he‘s definitely rounding into form. Now I want to see if he can keep it up consistently
    no hes not rounding into form.Still the same trash player.

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    A full Devin experience on this Paris trip.

    I'm told he is "pretty darn good, consistently" though

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    Put Dev on the bench and start Champ. I think this will help both of them.
    Allow Dev to TRY and lead when Wemby is off the floor.

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    Put Dev on the bench and start Champ. I think this will help both of them.
    Allow Dev to TRY and lead when Wemby is off the floor.
    Hope Sacramento misses the playoffs and put Dev on a flight there for Fox.

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    Another rug pull game from Devin

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    Looking for all that same energy to defend Devin instead all I get is silence. Imma nickname Vassell “The Cricket.”

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    Hope Sacramento misses the playoffs and put Dev on a flight there for Fox.
    I like Devin 50/50 but if he can net fox, plus whatever assets have to go out, you make that trade 100% of the time.

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    1/10. DAMN.

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    He was two bricks away from the ultimate 8/24 Kobe tribute

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    That was game for me. How we were 103-103 in the end despite of him was amazing. 2 for 10 and we win.Wonder how badly his playing of late will impact his trade value?

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    That was game for me. How we were 103-103 in the end despite of him was amazing. 2 for 10 and we win.Wonder how badly his playing of late will impact his trade value?
    Thankfully, I've heard from generally sharp people who would know better that NBA GMs don't put too much stock in recent form. They know who these guys are, if they play well or poorly right before a trade doesn't have much of an impact.

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    Thankfully, I've heard from generally sharp people who would know better that NBA GMs don't put too much stock in recent form. They know who these guys are, if they play well or poorly right before a trade doesn't have much of an impact.
    Yep. Your model seemed pretty realistic to me regarding his trade value. 1 FRP with some protections depending on the salary you take back. Vassell has a role in the NBA but not as a number 2-4 on a team who can’t even crack the play-in.

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    Yep. Your model seemed pretty realistic to me regarding his trade value. 1 FRP with some protections depending on the salary you take back. Vassell has a role in the NBA but not as a number 2-4 on a team who can’t even crack the play-in.
    Yeah, it's hard for me at this point to believe that Vassell is more valuable today than Derrick was when he was traded.

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