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Second the motion
Not too late to tank.
A wasted season if you are not in play-in and also not at bottom.
Just give more playing time to the bench scrubs and hopefully increase their trade value as well.
Second the motion
Not a fan of tanking especially with some teams in way better position. I don't like the idea of ruining culture and alienating Wemby just to say drafting #7 instead of #10...and maybe taking the same player nonetheless.
Pushing Chicago up a spot might be worth something, but it's too early to tell.
You don't need to go into full tank mode, but yeah...play Castle a lot and ship CP3 to a team of his wishing (and maybe get a 2nd rounder or anything usefull). , I'd even play Collins a lot (meaning north of 20 minutes) just to give him another chance.
Next season is the season of no excuses, as we want the Hawks to get a bad pick while getting our playoff feet wet.
no
Can't tank with Wemby. Never could tank with Wemby. Haven't tanked with Wemby. People who thought we tanked or will tank or are tanking are in denial about how badly formed and coached our roster is.
Should the Spurs do... what they've been doing all along???
Guys, we've kept the same roster full of morons that allowed to tank despite Wemby last season for a reason...
Cp3 is probably exceeding PATFO's expectations at least in terms of availability, Barnes has bailed us out so countless times and Wemby is the definition of a cheat code, who again has exceeded expectations in year 2 (top5 player already when most optimistics said top10 at best)
WE ARE CURRENTLY (soft) TANKING
They may be seeing the value of their draft capital tanking and realize only way to get decent player now is with their own low pick
If you're not contending, you're either thanking or you're an idiot.
Probably best we could hope for is the 9th and 10th spot and hope the Basketball Gods gift us a top 5 pick
It’s too late to tank. Can’t catch the bottom 7 no matter what.
Besides this draft is very meh outside of the first 3 or 4. Not a big difference whether you draft at 8 or 12.
Only way they could tank is shutting Victor down for the year, which seems like a great way to ensure he signs his QO and walks at the first opportunity. The Spurs have some golden picks they need to use to improve the team around him. Yeah the 2025 ATL pick isn't going to be top 10 most likely but the Spurs can still offer picks that are best of two different teams every year from 2025 through 2031 except 2029. If this is still a one man team by the time Victor is due for his next contract I wouldn't hold it against him if he just signs the qualifying offer and walks the year after. They have the assets to get good players and the patient approach just doesn't seem to be working as Vassell and Keldon Johnson haven't developed into anything valuable in five and six years.
LOL getting pick #5 would be cruel in what's starting to look like a four man draft. Not that it would be possible short of Wemby missing the season since you can only move up into the top 4 so guess I shouldn't worry about that.
Last edited by baseline bum; 01-26-2025 at 02:45 AM.
we’ve definitely won a few games we should not have won because of CP3/Barnes/Wemby going ballistic. We are actually a terrible team and you can tell when Wemby sits.Should the Spurs do... what they've been doing all along???
Guys, we've kept the same roster full of morons that allowed to tank despite Wemby last season for a reason...
Cp3 is probably exceeding PATFO's expectations at least in terms of availability, Barnes has bailed us out so countless times and Wemby is the definition of a cheat code, who again has exceeded expectations in year 2 (top5 player already when most optimistics said top10 at best)
WE ARE CURRENTLY (soft) TANKING
I think tanking is probably the best move at this time.
ing trade everyone not named Wemby or Castle.
No need to tank
It's a 5 man draft....drops off significantly at #6..LOL getting pick #5 would be cruel in what's starting to look like a four man draft. Not that it would be possible short of Wemby missing the season since you can only move up into the top 4 so guess I shouldn't worry about that.
Imagine how many 2031 and beyond picks we can get for those!No need to tank
No need to tank
Some of you people are just hopeless.
From Amen trade topic to this, it's really hard to reply without being condescending.
We can get 8th best odds and that's it. There's no way to catch bottom 7 unless Wemby suffers a serious injury.
We'll have 8th-12th best odds depending on how Sixers, Bulls and Warriors situation plays out.
Bulls will probably get rid of Lavine and Vucevic so they can tank, Sixers and Warriors are garbage for different reasons.
We already have #1, #4, #9 and #11 picks on the roster.
Just because of the tanking crowd I hope Spurs fall as far back as possible in the draft.
We need actual NBA players who are ready to contribute, not more projects who will take 3 years to develop.
And what happened to PATFO being able to select the right players with subpar picks? Every single year there are legit starters drafted outside the lottery, it's time for the scouting department to earn their salaries.
This roster is not winning many games, but tanking is never good idea. Just let them play, just see who fits with Wemby going forward, test stupid stuff.
Tanking will make very little difference. I suspect we are locked in the 8-12ish range. Definitely should be trying to throw some games down the last stretch to secure the lottery but other than that just keep playing hard and let the chips fall where they fall.
My projected draft order:LOL getting pick #5 would be cruel in what's starting to look like a four man draft. Not that it would be possible short of Wemby missing the season since you can only move up into the top 4 so guess I shouldn't worry about that.
1. Cooper Flagg
2. Dylan Harper
3. Ace Bailey
4. VJ Edgecombe
5. Tre Johnson
If we can get into the top 5, I think we aight.
I'm not sure the Bulls can get lower than 7 even if they trade away talent. They 'might' even prefer to be outside the top 10 and take the hit now with this draft instead of possibly letting it convey next year. The problem with that is that I'm not sure if they can climb out of the bottom 10 and I'd say their range is 7-11 no matter what they do.
IDK Flagg/Harper/Jak/Bailey seem head and shoulders above everyone else.
Interesting, sounds like that very good 2021 draft class. Had the clear top 4 (Cade Mobley etc) and good 5-8 (Suggs, Frank), and 2-3 good role players thereafter.
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