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But Castle is nearly my favorite player on the team. I don't feel good.
No way Spurs trade Castle. NBA will block it, since he has to dunk over Wemby to make this watchable
But Castle is nearly my favorite player on the team. I don't feel good.
Zach Lowe stepping on our collective nuts and dreams.
Given the amount of leverage Fox just handed the Spurs, they should not be giving up both Vassell and Castle + draft capital. Especially since Fox is a 33% career 3pt shooter and doesn't have the best advanced analytics. If only Branham or Wesley showed any ounce of promise.
If somehow the Spurs pull of a trade of KJ + Collins + 4 FRP, this would the greatest trade the Spurs FO accomplishes.
I'm pretty indifferent about the CHI pick. I'm confident they're about to enter deep tank mode and it won't convey. We'll see.
honestly if they ask for castle and thats the only way they will trade fox, then we better pass on the trade.
trading castle would be D.U.M.B.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Ditto. I’d be f&$@ing pissed. He has too much potential to throw down in a poker game like that.
Mr Right this is where you earn your paycheck. Send Vassell with some FRPs without too much bite and get it done before the vultures show up.
He is such a hack, he’s just looking at tweets. States obvious things and remains vague.
I love Castle. And I just about hate Devin. But if SAC wants Castle instead of Devin I'm not letting that be the thing that holds up a deal.
If they wanna move Fox somewhere other than SA without an extension, be my guest, we'll just get him without compensation in a little while after that
Important not to overstate our leverage here. Right now Klutch is saying they're open to other teams. Unless Fox makes it clear he ONLY wants to go to San Antonio, we're going to have to come with a strong offer. Like Davidicus says we need to strike before the other vultures show up (it may already be too late). Hopefully the SAC front office is in full Kangz mode.
I would not trade Castle for Fox. Wemby is out of the question, Sochan is also secure, since he does not fit Sacto at all. Vassell fits if they want something more than picks.
Would it be dumb? There's the argument that we know DeAaron Fox is a quasi-allstar and Castle might not get to that point. There's logic to it, unless there's a reasonable chance Castle will be markedly better than Fox is currently.
But yeah...I would not feel good in my fan-soul about sending Castle.
klutch doesnt want to get in trouble the way lillard did when he said he only wanted to go to miami. i think they're giving lip service but fox clearly has his heart set, consistent with past report that klutch wants to funnel a star to SA
the leverage sacto has is time, the same way philly did with harden, even though LAC were clearly the only suitor
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It’s on the cusp of conveying now! Would I cry about it if it’s Vassell + and 2 firsts + CHI + the Swap? Nah. It’s in the realm. I just hope its not that much or that at least SA moves as much salary as possible (like Colllins, Branham, Blake) that we know we dont want on books next season if SA is going to do that.
unless there is a toronto rapotors esque situation where some team agrees to give assets to rent Fox knowing he's almost certainly leaving... but Fox isnt on the same level as peak nephew. im not sure what situation exists where he would be seen as the piece to put them over the top. maybe sons, but they dont have the assets.
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Devin & Castle plus 2 FRP beats Fox going to Houston.
Zach isnt really a Spurs lover….low key hater IMO. But who cares is SA has what SAC wants. If Fox is indeed forcing his way out and says I want SA, SA has enough to get it done. Now, Kings may opt to spite Fox or hold onto him and lose him for nothing but that would be great for SA since it means they likely have a shot in FA and give up nothing
I’m doing Devin + ‘25 FRP (worst of ATL and SAS) + ‘27 FRP (worst of ATL and SAS) + ‘31 SAC swap returned + fillers (Keldon, Zach, Branham, Wesley) don’t give a .
believe it or not, but Champagnie's contract will be very valuable in these negotiations
CHI hasn't begun their tank in earnest yet (and they may not, if they don't find takers for Lavine and Vooch), but there are reports that their entire roster is practically for sale.
Would be nice to get off Collins, but his salary will actually have utility as an expiring next season - more utility than he's actually offered as a player since he signed it that contract. Might actually be worth keeping him just to use to acquire another role player next year.
Bran and Blake are irrelevant and can easily be moved later or just be waived if we need the roster space next year. We can just carry them operating as an over-the-cap team and then waive them. Not worth given a second thought to.
I would trade Castle for Fox. Spurs haven't developed a non shooter since Chip left despite many chances to do so (Sochan, Branham, Wesley, Primo, Langford with poor early returns on Castle)
Dev is the better fit with DMR, Sabonis and Murray tho. Trading Dev and Tre plus picks for Fox is like five steps forward and one step backward long term. Well worth it.
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