De'Aaron Fox Rumors Suggest a Possible Trade to The Spurs

[Mr. Body]

This smells a lot like Klutch and Sacto posturing about his extension, tbh. How many times does this same scenario have to play out. Rich Paul and Fox want the full bag, Kings don't want to give the full bag, Rich Paul says San Antonio, and then player and current team settle.

[objective]

if we ship out basically the same salary that we get back by getting Fox, we should have about 24 million in cap space (according to projections) and we could open up significant space by moving Zach Collins' expiring 18 million for a bunch of 2nds.

Then you make a run at Alexander-Walker, LaRavia, Aldama, Naz Reid

Naz Reid is the answer.

[scott]

if we ship out basically the same salary that we get back by getting Fox, we should have about 24 million in cap space (according to projections) and we could open up significant space by moving Zach Collins' expiring 18 million for a bunch of 2nds.

Then you make a run at Alexander-Walker, LaRavia, Aldama, Naz Reid

I like it. I was looking at our capholds which puts us $14MM over the cap going into the offseason.

Fox for Devin (which works cap wise and I think is still most logical) eats up $10MM of that space, but if you can get off Collins, Bran and Blake like DPG21920 suggestions, then you can definitely open up some nice space.

If over-the-cap, you could always use that MIN31 pick to entice the Wolves into a S&T for Naz if you had to.

[LeBowen]

You want to "chop it up" with Mark Jones? lol they can send Kayte though (sorry)

Grant Napear is the guy I was referring to.

[timtonymanu]

I love Castle but I would gladly trade him in a deal for Fox.

[RC_Drunkford]

Gotta get medicals first to check out those hand injuries. If he's going to play hurt on it and wait for surgery that needs to lower the price bigly. There's a long sad history of guys playing through injuries and either never being the same or taking years to recover. Don't want to see him turn into another John Collins where a hand injury ruins him for a couple of extra seasons beyond it's initial scope.

Even then, the swap return needs to be counted as having tremendous value because it does.

I'm not even that interested in moving Vassell or Castle because they can be starting wings of the future albeit small.

They can take Sochan and move him to a third team for more assets. Keldon/Sochan/Tre + Better of ATL/SA 25 and better of ATL/SA 27 + swap return.

They could get another first for Sochan easy and make it 3 good firsts plus a valuable swap, that's good enough for a guy with a torn up hand

Can't give up everything or everyone because they really need a PF of the future. Barnes is washed and Sochan can only really defend perimeter players even if he was kept. He's not a screen and roll player and can't shoot.

Sochan is a top 5 roll man in the NBA according to numbers, so that take is not true. If Fox needs surgery let him take it immediately, so we can get a better draft pick. This would be the last time we'are getting a high Spurs pick in a long time. This should also somewhat lower his price tbh.

[T Park]

This smells a lot like Klutch and Sacto posturing about his extension, tbh. How many times does this same scenario have to play out. Rich Paul and Fox want the full bag, Kings don't want to give the full bag, Rich Paul says San Antonio, and then player and current team settle.

Anthony Davis says hi

[DesignatedT]

Much rather trade Vassell than Castle.

[heyheymymy]

I think I'm growing reluctantly ready to stab Devin Vassell in the back and pack his damn luggage myself

but can we please at least keep Castle

[mo7888]

I’m sorry, but I say just let Castle go tbh

No doubt.... and he's worth a first...so that lets us keep a little bit more capital. Side note- if the current mocks are close to correct and we still have one 1st, we might want to trade back with Brooklyn for two of their firsts and draft De Larrea (who can play alongside Fox) and either Fleming or Byrd.

[RC_Drunkford]

I’m sorry, but I say just let Castle go tbh

I wouldn't. He's basically the same age as Wemby and could become about as good as Fox when he hits his prime. Castle definitely has All-Star caliber.

Guys, y'all need to remember we are trying to build a super team here.

[objective]

Sochan is a top 5 roll man in the NBA according to numbers, so that take is not true. If Fox needs surgery let him take it immediately, so we can get a better draft pick. This would be the last time we'are getting a high Spurs pick in a long time. This should also somewhat lower his price tbh.

I would need to see the plays. Maybe he counts with Wemby having the ball, but I rarely recall him pairing with anyone else, and he never did any during his rookie year especially. Because if it's just plays off Wemby that's the answer, it's all Wemby and he wouldn't be doing that anywhere else except with Jokic

[RC_Drunkford]

I would need to see the plays. Maybe he counts with Wemby having the ball, but I rarely recall him pairing with anyone else, and he never did any during his rookie year especially. Because if it's just plays off Wemby that's the answer, it's all Wemby and he wouldn't be doing that anywhere else except with Jokic

5th in the NBA with 1.5 points per posession as the roll man. 98th percentile, 13th in the NBA in FG% as the roll man. He's absolutely ELITE. Imagine what he would do setting picks for an All-Star PG.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/ro...dir=D&sort=PPP

[Mr. Body]

Anthony Davis says hi

Hi about what.

[Dejounte]

I wouldn't. He's basically the same age as Wemby and could become about as good as Fox when he hits his prime. Castle definitely has All-Star caliber.

Guys, y'all need to remember we are trying to build a super team here.

pretty sure the age gap between Duncan and Manu was five years. Stars being the same age matters very little. I dont even think we’ve seen that historically (a championship duo that’s the same age and have stuck together for most of their careers)

[dn0774]

This smells a lot like Klutch and Sacto posturing about his extension, tbh. How many times does this same scenario have to play out. Rich Paul and Fox want the full bag, Kings don't want to give the full bag, Rich Paul says San Antonio, and then player and current team settle.

Pretty sure the full bag was offered to Fox in the recent off season but he declined due to wanting the supermax which he did not yet qualify for. His declining the max extension was a bet on himself to make an All NBA team this season which is seeming somewhat unlikely with his play being a bit disappointing of late (he has had some hand injury that is limiting him a bit iirc).

I think Rich Paul/Fox making this move is an acknowledgement by them that All NBA honors ain't happening this year so may as well start the process to position himself in a better situation and/or preferred location.

[spurraider21]

Been wondering about this. Refresh my memory on the “trouble” they got in with Dame? And who’d they get in trouble with?

Bc if I’m Klutch and Fox truly wants SA Wemby, why wouldn’t I start with SA as his only preference and then open it up to other teams if they get word SA SAC negotiations aren’t looking good?

im not sure that an official penalty was levied but there was this warning letter that went out and was circulated widely

NBA's full Damian Lillard memo

Recent media reports stated that Damian Lillard’s agent, Aaron Goodwin, called multiple NBA teams to warn them against trading for Lillard because Lillard’s only desired trade destination is Miami. Goodwin also made public comments indicating that Lillard would not fully perform the services called for under his player contract if traded to another team.


We interviewed Goodwin and Lillard and also spoke with several NBA teams to whom Goodwin spoke. Goodwin denied stating or indicating to any team that Lillard would refuse to play for them. Goodwin and Lillard affirmed to us that Lillard would fully perform the services called for under his player contract in any trade scenario. The relevant teams provided descriptions of their communications with Goodwin that were mostly, though not entirely, consistent with Goodwin’s statements to us.


We have advised Goodwin and Lillard that any future comments, made privately to teams or publicly, suggesting Lillard will not fully perform the services called for under his player contract in the event of a trade will subject Lillard to discipline by the NBA. We also have advised the Players Association that any similar comments by players or their agents will be subject to discipline going forward.

[spurraider21]

the nba has similarly issued fines for any player who publicly demands a trade

[Mr. Body]

Pretty sure the full bag was offered to Fox in the recent off season but he declined due to wanting the supermax which he did not yet qualify for. His declining the max extension was a bet on himself to make an All NBA team this season which is seeming somewhat unlikely with his play being a bit disappointing of late (he has had some hand injury that is limiting him a bit iirc).

I think Rich Paul/Fox making this move is an acknowledgement by them that All NBA honors ain't happening this year so may as well start the process to position himself in a better situation and/or preferred location.

Yeah, and this is a continuation of what was happening in December. There's x- s about how Fox's team hasn't demanded a trade at all, although the casual basketball world is running off with the idea. He wants his money. I mean, he was stupid to think he could get All-NBA. He's just not that player. But him and Klutch want their big wad and they want the Kings to give it to him.

I'm sure the Spurs are as surprised about all this as anyone else.

[spurraider21]

This smells a lot like Klutch and Sacto posturing about his extension, tbh. How many times does this same scenario have to play out. Rich Paul and Fox want the full bag, Kings don't want to give the full bag, Rich Paul says San Antonio, and then player and current team settle.

always an evil klutchspiracy

[vy65]

If this is going to happen, I’d really rather it happen ASAP. We have 5 games before the deadline. Most are against top talent (I think the heat game might be the worst). And one of them is against ATL. That could be a make/break stretch, with some out-sized games in terms of importance (ATL). I can see an argument for not rocking the boat until the last minute, but I don’t see the team as-cons uted faring this stretch well.

[RC_Drunkford]

pretty sure the age gap between Duncan and Manu was five years. Stars being the same age matters very little. I dont even think we’ve seen that historically (a championship duo that’s the same age and have stuck together for most of their careers)

of course, but imagine Fox being 33 and Castle being 26 just hitting his prime. You can just swap one for the other.

[Mr. Body]

always an evil klutchspiracy

I mean, if you don't understand what Klutch is and how they work at this point, that's on you.

[Davidicus]

im not sure that an official penalty was levied but there was this warning letter that went out and was circulated widely

NBA's full Damian Lillard memo

Recent media reports stated that Damian Lillard’s agent, Aaron Goodwin, called multiple NBA teams to warn them against trading for Lillard because Lillard’s only desired trade destination is Miami. Goodwin also made public comments indicating that Lillard would not fully perform the services called for under his player contract if traded to another team.


We interviewed Goodwin and Lillard and also spoke with several NBA teams to whom Goodwin spoke. Goodwin denied stating or indicating to any team that Lillard would refuse to play for them. Goodwin and Lillard affirmed to us that Lillard would fully perform the services called for under his player contract in any trade scenario. The relevant teams provided descriptions of their communications with Goodwin that were mostly, though not entirely, consistent with Goodwin’s statements to us.


We have advised Goodwin and Lillard that any future comments, made privately to teams or publicly, suggesting Lillard will not fully perform the services called for under his player contract in the event of a trade will subject Lillard to discipline by the NBA. We also have advised the Players Association that any similar comments by players or their agents will be subject to discipline going forward.

Wow. Never read that. Thanks.

So very possible it’s a CYA type of move. At minimum these other vulture teams hesitate with their best offers, knowing there’s a chance he walks to his dream destination in 2026. At least that’s the hope.

[Mr. Body]

It's not even a conspiracy. It's just Klutch having a goal, which is their client paid, and working for that goal. I'm not sure how that's a conspiracy. Just stand back and look at the situation without sticking your hands down your pants.