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Can't argue with that fool-proof logic.Solid points!
Go compare his rookie statline to the rookie years of Dennis Smith Jr, Kevin Knox, and Emmanuel Mudiay and tell me Stephon Castle is on a guaranteed All-Star trajectory.
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Can't argue with that fool-proof logic.
Go compare his rookie statline to the rookie years of Dennis Smith Jr, Kevin Knox, and Emmanuel Mudiay and tell me Stephon Castle is on a guaranteed All-Star trajectory.
hahah too early to tell in Castle but some truth to this! Unless they are seeing something in practice we aren’t he should definitely be on the table, especially if the Kings value him.at all the people here who are like "this guard we drafted in one of the weakest drafts ever barely averaging 10 points for a team with a losing record shooting in the mid 20 on almost nothing but wide open 3's has all this untapped potential we shouldn't trade him"
Type of people you give a million dollars to and they just put it under their mattress and let it rot
They can and will trade them forward, just like they did with the Dillingham pick.
Castle is seven years younger.
no they won‘t and if they did it would be like trading 1$ now for 50 cent in 4 years
He is nowhere near as good as Fox is now and may never get there. That's the risk.
I don't know enough about Fox's game to make a very informed assessment. But I do know two things: one, that he's 27 years old, and two, that speed and athleticism, which are hallmarks of his game, are some of the first things that tend to decline once you're over age 30.
Wembanyama is 21. Once he hits his prime, Fox might already be beginning to decline. That's not a great recipe for building a multi-year championship dynasty.
That's not to say we shouldn't trade for Fox. I absolutely think for the right deal we should. But I wouldn't be so locked in on making a deal that we would give up the house for it.
$60M looks steep, but that contract would start in 2026, it's the usual 30% max.Figures for De'Aaron Fox's next contract:
Supermax (if eligible with SAC only): five years, $345M
Max via re-signing/extending: five years, $296M
Max if signing w/ another team as FA: four years, $219M
Castle's realistic max potential outcome is a DJM, Derrick White, Jrue Holiday level player. A really nice two way guard with PG skills who probably averages 15/5/5. I just don't see realistic supernova potential in Castle.
I’d hate to see Vassell or Castle go, but someone has to say goodbye to make it work. I think Fox would work well with either one as a Spur. Being able to score is the main thing for me. I hate to think this, but Sac looks more organized on offense than the Spurs. As much as that sucks to believe, I wonder how many of Fox’s points can be accredited to their system. What I’m also wondering is that if the traded player is Vassell will Devin be scoring 25/game next year while Fox drops down to 20 for the Spurs. Maybe a consistent 20 is enough, who knows. Wonder if Fox’s shooting hand ligament damage is still a problem or is he just wearing tape? Not unheard of. Spurs, make a good deal please.
Wemby is already a borderline top5 player in the league, his age doesn't matter.
Who's to say that Wemby will be injury free in his late 20s?
When you have a top5 player in the league, you build around them to win, you don't waste years of their career because noone knows what future holds.
Obviously we don't want to blow our load too early, but with Fox and a couple more trades for legit starters, we could be a top contender in 26-27 season, with Wemby winning the MVP.
True. Fox has elite speed that only Ja can rival. Fox is a unique talent.
But where will Fox and Castle be in five years when it matters more.
Ideally, the Spurs could have both.
Castle should not be the trade piece.
It is interesting they want win now players. Outside of Wemby we have none. To get this deal done we likely need to get a 3rd team involved or overpay with draft capital. Devin Vassell, given his contract, defensive limitations, injury history and chucker status is worth a FRP at most himself. Remember that gents.
This timeline narrative needs to die. Wemby is ready to win now.
Bulls and Lavine make sense. Especially since Sa has bulls pick
Still havent hear about potential trade package
Hawks just lost Johnson and they make the most sense.
Devin+Tre+Hunter, Spurs returning their '31 swap and Hawks returning '25 SAC would be good value for Fox.
I'm fine with giving up Hawks picks, Kings swap, Devin and Tre.
Meh trading for Fox seems like a great way to stay on the treadmill but w/e.
Everyone except Wemby and Castle. If they push for Castle, on top of KJ, Socham, FRPs... nah.
Small speed-first dude who already can't really shoot who is already 27, looking for money over anything else, doesn't play defense, is high usage, and will be making over $50 million a year when he's in his thirties when he'll definitely be declining. Klutch/Fox know he needs to get his bag now.
Because this is Klutch trying to get their client as much money as possible. There's nothing real here.
Sure - but I said CHI because we at least have reports of Bulls being sellers. We have not heard that out of ATL but they may pivot with being a fringe PO again and more injuries.
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