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    I ended up listening to dunc on, where they did a mock trade negotiation with Fox. Spurs ended up with the deal, being Tre Jones, CP, Keldon, worse of spurs/Hawks pick for 25. Bulls 1st, best spurs/Celtics 29 picks, bulls 25 second for Heurter and Fox.
    Call it in before they change their mind

    I do that one in a heartbeat

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    This bum a spur yet

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    With Atlanta in such a talespin I'm telling the Kings they can't have the ATL 25 if they insist on Castle being in the deal. Gotta take the Spurs 25 instead.
    What you would need to do is have them take the worst of the two not a specific pick because no matter what the Spurs pick will have potential to be worse due to the lottery.

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    Fox confirmed to a SacBee reporter tonight the Spurs is where he wants to sign. Rich Paul is clearing a path for Brian Wright. If Wright can’t take advantage of this at some point whether now or offseason - then he probably shouldn’t have the job.
    We keep saying Wright has to do this but we all know he's not some unilateral decision making force in this front office.

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    Call it in before they change their mind

    I do that one in a heartbeat
    That’s honestly what I think a deal SHOULD look like more or less given cir stances lol

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    Just saw a clip from NBA Countdown where Shams said the Kings have received “dozens of calls and trade offers” in the last 30 hours, and the Spurs are among the teams who have expressed interest.

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    There's a lot of smoke man. This might actually get done.

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    That’s honestly what I think a deal SHOULD look like more or less given cir stances lol
    I think you add tearing up the SAC31 swap, and it’s about right along with what my model predicts. 3 FRPs + a swap + an SRP and IIRC my model said 3 FRP + 1 swap + 1 protected pick (not at the computer now to double check it).

    Idk why they want Keldon and Tre, but they can most certainly have them.

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    There's a lot of smoke man. This might actually get done.
    For now, we just need Rich Paul to stick to his line that only SAS gets the extension

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    The Kings quit tonight during that 76ers game. Spurs kind of did too mid 4Q. Trade rumours gonna have both these teams in a death spiral.

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    What you would need to do is have them take the worst of the two not a specific pick because no matter what the Spurs pick will have potential to be worse due to the lottery.
    Ideally, but they're not just going to give us Fox for crap.

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    That Dunc'd On fake trade is actually really good. Not even the best pick from this year ... No Castle, No Vassell ....

    If that's a realistic proposal it should be an easy yes from San Antonio

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    I really want Fox, and I really want Fox paired with Castle.

    With that said, with the tailspin both SA and ATL are in… there is no way we should be willing to do a deal that involves both of those picks. Ideally, we send later year picks. After that, if we can get send the worst of, then that’s okay. After that, maybe it’s just one of the picks with a top 1 protection. Worst case, you agree to just sent one (I’d try to make it ours so we can at least control our own destiny).

    Though I’m a proponent of this move, I’m not extremely optimistic that it happens. The vultures are circling. The threats of only signing an extension with San Antonio may not be enough to deter teams from making an offer (doesn’t sound like it so far).

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    One new thing was Nate Duncan saying the timing from Klutch now being about Spurs having the cap space in the off season to renegotiate and extend Fox to more $$$ than a standard max.
    Wait, what? Is that referring to a bump in next year’s salary, or something else? Is that what Utah did with Lauri in the last offseason?

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    One thing is for certain...we are all going to spend an inordinate amount of time here constantly refreshing this thread for the next week
    True. Also, if this trade happens ST will say it’s an overpay and they shouldn’t have paid as much. If it doesn’t ST will say they should have made it happen no matter what.

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    I ended up listening to dunc on, where they did a mock trade negotiation with Fox. Spurs ended up with the deal, being Tre Jones, CP, Keldon, worse of spurs/Hawks pick for 25. Bulls 1st, best spurs/Celtics 29 picks, bulls 25 second for Heurter and Fox.
    LOL, I really had to look up who "CP" is.

    But yeah...if that would be the deal(which I don't believe), we should Pull the triggern. I personally even like Huerter.

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    Would you do the following as the base of a trade? I know Sac would demand a 25 pick but would anyone else actually beat this prior to the deadline?

    Vassell + CHI 25 FRP, SAS 26 FRP, ATL 27 FRP, SAC 31 FRP for Fox

    Others players and SRPs could be added in but the above is the core.
    We need more shooters not less so I’m against trading Vassell, who should be a perfect third banana. Any 2 of four combo of Tre/keldon/Sochan/Collins and 2 lowest FRP’s assuming we get chi this year should get it done. Mind you we need to consolidate players/picks anyway.

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    Just listening to the Spurs Insider podcast. They are saying it would be difficult to trade Keldon because he wears cowboy hats and has a ranch. It just wouldn't be fair to trade such a culture guy

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    We need more shooters not less so I’m against trading Vassell, who should be a perfect third banana. Any 2 of four combo of Tre/keldon/Sochan/Collins and 2 lowest FRP’s assuming we get chi this year should get it done. Mind you we need to consolidate players/picks anyway.
    If they can take all 4 - why not?

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    Just listening to the Spurs Insider podcast. They are saying it would be difficult to trade Keldon because he wears cowboy hats and has a ranch. It just wouldn't be fair to trade such a culture guy
    George Hill has a ranch
    There's precedent for beloved Spurs players being part of a franchise altering trade and owning a ranch

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    100%.

    I'm not even sure of what the "let it play out" gang has as a strategy. Are they hoping that Vassell takes a 6th year leap? That Keldon finally discovers "it" at age 26? That we're going to get our next superstar at pick #12? I guess it's all possible, just highly unlikely.

    And like we've already seen with the aforementioned Vassell and Johnson, the culture of losing takes a toll and engrains loser habits in them. It's not like there is a magical signal that is going to signal to these guys that it's time to turn it on.

    It's a ship without a rudder right now.

    This.

    there’s nothing reasonable about the idiot who calls everybody else unreasonable. Body is such a ing clown with zero self awareness.

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    Dream scenario

    Fox + Huerter + Len for
    Barnes + Collins + Jones + Branham, worst of SA/ATL 25, CHI 25, ATL 27, SAC 31 swap; CHA 25 / SRPs to seal the deal.

    Wright does a great job tightening the screws with a massive assist from Fox. Kangz convince themselves that HB is a great win-now player (he is), Collins is the backup big they never had, and Tre is an intriguing speedy backup PG for injury insurance & expiring if it doesn’t work out. And Branham is a low-cost shooter if Dougie leaves…

    We essentially send all of our kitchen scraps out. No more Collins + Branham, and we can use Huerter and Lee.

    Again, a dream scenario, but I am putting it into the universe.

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    This.

    there’s nothing reasonable about the idiot who calls everybody else unreasonable. Body is such a ing clown with zero self awareness.
    Lol, I haven't even said anything in this dumb thread for like twenty pages and nothing about that topic.

    You just get mad when I point out that people use the Spurs to get their extensions and none of these trades ever happen.

    This gets you really really mad. I don't even say anything that's wrong, you just get steamed.

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    And it's group think steamed. Everyone is to busy trying to fit in with each other with the group think they never realize they keep doing the same over and over. Last summer was the exact same thing with Markkanen.

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    And it's group think steamed. Everyone is to busy trying to fit in with each other with the group think they never realize they keep doing the same over and over. Last summer was the exact same thing with Markkanen.
    And guess what would've been a better outcome?
    Golden 6% tickets and our assoritment of low IQ scrubs or a proven all-star level player?
    A 39 year old is our second best player, but it's fine as long as Zach is having an objectively good season.

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