De'Aaron Fox Rumors Suggest a Possible Trade to The Spurs

[mo7888]

Dream scenario

Fox + Huerter + Len for
Barnes + Collins + Jones + Branham, worst of SA/ATL 25, CHI 25, ATL 27, SAC 31 swap; CHA 25 / SRPs to seal the deal.

Wright does a great job tightening the screws with a massive assist from Fox. Kangz convince themselves that HB is a great win-now player (he is), Collins is the backup big they never had, and Tre is an intriguing speedy backup PG for injury insurance & expiring if it doesn’t work out. And Branham is a low-cost shooter if Dougie leaves…

We essentially send all of our kitchen scraps out. No more Collins + Branham, and we can use Huerter and Lee.

Again, a dream scenario, but I am putting it into the universe.

Barnes can't be included in a trade going to Sacramento

[quentin_compson]

Barnes can't be included in a trade going to Sacramento

Yeah, I just wanted to point that out as well. Someone actually pointed it out ten or so pages back, but it probably got lost in the shuffle.
Since the Kings want to make the playoffs, I wonder if they would really be interested in Castle as the main player they would be getting back in a Fox trade. I also kind of doubt that the whole league is as high on Castle as most of the people here on ST are. If they want a player that can contribute right away, Vassell would make much more sense for the Kings than Castle.

Edit: The Kings wanting to make the playoffs is also why I don't think the Vecenie trade involving the Pistons is realistic. Getting Tre Jones and Mamu doesn't move the needle for Sacramento. If Barnes gets rerouted from the Pistons to the Kings in the aftermath, then okay, that would be a different matter.

[mo7888]

Yeah, I just wanted to point that out as well. Someone actually pointed it out ten or so pages back, but it probably got lost in the shuffle.
Since the Kings want to make the playoffs, I wonder if they would really be interested in Castle as the main player they would be getting back in a Fox trade. I also kind of doubt that the whole league is as high on Castle as most of the people here on ST are. If they want a player that can contribute right away, Vassell would make much more sense for the Kings than Castle.

I definitely prefer to move Devin instead of Castle.

[CGD]

Barnes can't be included in a trade going to Sacramento

Makes sense. It’s probably why i keep seeing him pop up in three way versions of the trade with him going into DETs capspace with added cap relief going to SAC.

[mo7888]

Just looking at the landscape knowing that nobody is going to break the bank for Fox until he says he's open to places other than SA I think my best offer right now would be:

Sac- Devin + Keldon + malaki + our 25 1st + Chi 1st + our 27 1st

SA- Fox + Heurter

I wouldn't quibble over a couple of 2nds added in.

[Seventyniner]

Makes sense. It’s probably why i keep seeing him pop up in three way versions of the trade with him going into DETs capspace with added cap relief going to SAC.

The Pistons version involves the Kings getting a big trade exception that they can carry through next year's trade deadline. They could use that to improve the team beyond the players and picks they get in the Fox trade.

[RC_Drunkford]

this has to be a 3 or 4 team deal with either Cam Johnson or John Collins going to Sacramento. Spurs keep their core guys and send the draft capital over for the Kings to get another starter who's been on their wishlist. Utah or BKLYN get draft compensation and expiring contracts.

[rascal]

this has to be a 3 or 4 team deal with either Cam Johnson or John Collins going to Sacramento. Spurs keep their core guys and send the draft capital over for the Kings to get another starter who's been on their wishlist. Utah or BKLYN get draft compensation and expiring contracts.

I'd rather get rid of some of the players instead of the draft capital. Spurs need to purge most of the roster.

[CGD]

I really want Fox, and I really want Fox paired with Castle.

With that said, with the tailspin both SA and ATL are in… there is no way we should be willing to do a deal that involves both of those picks. Ideally, we send later year picks. After that, if we can get send the worst of, then that’s okay. After that, maybe it’s just one of the picks with a top 1 protection. Worst case, you agree to just sent one (I’d try to make it ours so we can at least control our own destiny).

Though I’m a proponent of this move, I’m not extremely optimistic that it happens. The vultures are circling. The threats of only signing an extension with San Antonio may not be enough to deter teams from making an offer (doesn’t sound like it so far).

This is where I’m at too. The other factor to consider, though admittedly more attenuated, is the situation with the other players in the 2026 expiring contract class. Most will extend if recent history holds. But, while it’s probably 90% certain that Luka extends with Dallas, you want to be ready in case there are any indications this summer that the parties are apart.

[mo7888]

this has to be a 3 or 4 team deal with either Cam Johnson or John Collins going to Sacramento. Spurs keep their core guys and send the draft capital over for the Kings to get another starter who's been on their wishlist. Utah or BKLYN get draft compensation and expiring contracts.

Utah or Brooklyn would have to take back contracts that aren't expiring this summer and i think they'd be fine with that since their outgoing contracts are for 2 years. In a Brooklyn scenario I'd think they'd get 2 1st and the Kings get 1 and in a Utah scenario I'd think Utah gets 1 1st and the kings get 2 1st's.

[vy65]

I really want Fox, and I really want Fox paired with Castle.

With that said, with the tailspin both SA and ATL are in… there is no way we should be willing to do a deal that involves both of those picks. Ideally, we send later year picks. After that, if we can get send the worst of, then that’s okay. After that, maybe it’s just one of the picks with a top 1 protection. Worst case, you agree to just sent one (I’d try to make it ours so we can at least control our own destiny).

Though I’m a proponent of this move, I’m not extremely optimistic that it happens. The vultures are circling. The threats of only signing an extension with San Antonio may not be enough to deter teams from making an offer (doesn’t sound like it so far).

And, every day that passes is another opportunity for said vultures to swoop in. I’m of the mind that if this doesn’t get done in the next 7 days, it’s not ever going to get done.

[baseline bum]

I'd rather get rid of some of the players instead of the draft capital. Spurs need to purge most of the roster.

By that he means don't get rid of Castle or Vassell and instead use useless players like Collins, Branham, and Keldon Johnson to make up the salary filler.

[LeBowen]

I'm done with Vassell, the package needs to be built around him.
He's losing value with each passing game, won't be worth more than a mediocre FRP this summer.

Hawks are the third team that makes most sense since they own '25 SAC pick and Kings could use Hunter, but I won't go into those details again.

If we look at disgruntled all-star guard trades around the league, going rates are obvious.

Jazz got Sexton, Markkanen, 3 FRPs and 2 swaps for Mitc who's a better player than Fox.
Those 3 FRPs were bad, but Markkanen and Sexton were great assets.
Devin is worse than either of them, 3 FRPs for a slightly worse player than Mitc would even it out.

If we include Holiday trade to the Celtics, Blazers got 3 FRPs and 2 swaps for Lillard.
Ayton, Camara, Brogdon and Timelord were the players they ended up with, not much value.
While peak Lillard was a tier above Fox, he was 33 at the time which is a big factor.

[lefty]

Whatever happens, at least he rejected the Lakers

[CGD]

Source

"Meanwhile, rival executives are monitoring the Fox situation closely and league sources say one team in particular — the San Antonio Spurs — is positioning itself to pursue the Houston native as a possible partner for Victor Wembanyama, should Fox become available. Barring a significant Kings turnaround, others are surely close behind."

Man i feel theyve been cooking this for at least a year

[Dverde]

[Dejounte]

Who is this rando

[onechance87]

Who is this rando

he was the first guy to report that fox wanted out.Before even sham reported

[LeBowen]

Who is this rando

He's not rando, according to Kings fans he's the local reporter with best sources.
Has a Kings podcast or whatever.

[CorrectCrusader]

Who is this rando

Kings reporter

[TheBallsbreakers]

holy ttt

[Leetonidas]

Hopefully Kangz do right by their guy and trade him where he wants. Spurs probably would've done the same for Kawhi if he hadn't been a giant about it

[mo7888]

He's not rando, according to Kings fans he's the local reporter with best sources.
Has a Kings podcast or whatever.

That sounds like the odds of this deal getting done are going up. Also, you've gotta think if Fox has been planning this for a while now that the Spurs and Klutch have already discussed what compensation to the Kings that SA is comfortable with and Klutch thinks it's doable.

[z0sa]

Spurs need the infusion. C'mon, what's the hold up?

[Ice009]

Hopefully Kangz do right by their guy and trade him where he wants. Spurs probably would've done the same for Kawhi if he hadn't been a giant about it

No, I don't think the Spurs would have wanted to trade Kawhi to LA no matter what. The Lakers are a heated rival and they would have only offered scraps (if you recall, I think they were saying they can just get him for free when he's a free agent), that is, if the Spurs were willing to trade with them, which I don't think the Spurs ever would have been unless the offer was great.