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    somebody has to explain to me why our players are not boxing out? Is our coaching staff not teaching them basic basketball? We are dead last in the NBA and this has been a huge problem for a while now. Sniffers will probably say this is another genius stealth tank strategy

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/box-...&sort=BOX_OUTS

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    This bothers me more than anything else. The majority of the team is a safety cone when they don't have the ball or their match up doesn't have the ball.

    They aren't ready to intercept passes, pickup loose balls, rebound, or box out.

    Spurs have talent. These guys really just don't know ball well. Got to wonder about the coaching and accountability with such consistent inability to play a full game of normal basketball.

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    I wish we had Rasho still. For as much heat as he took for not rebounding as much as he should, he definitely boxed out effectively and helped teammates get the rebound.

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    Not boxing out and not rebounding cost us a championship already.

    Extremely frustrating when we allow so many 2nd chance opportunities.

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    That is ridiculous.

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    This is actually one of my biggest complaints with Castle so far. I’m fine with him shooting it poorly early in his career, and the playmaking will come along. But if you know you’re a liability shooting and your advantage is that you’re stronger than most guys and literally as tall and long as jimmy butler, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be contributing more on the boards.

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    This is actually one of my biggest complaints with Castle so far. I’m fine with him shooting it poorly early in his career, and the playmaking will come along. But if you know you’re a liability shooting and your advantage is that you’re stronger than most guys and literally as tall and long as jimmy butler, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be contributing more on the boards.
    Ther's a reason, he's the point of attack defender.
    His rebounding is underwhelming, but in most situations help defenders are the problem because they just ball watch and don't box out their matchups attacking the glass after a shot goes up.

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    Ther's a reason, he's the point of attack defender.
    His rebounding is underwhelming, but in most situations help defenders are the problem because they just ball watch and don't box out their matchups attacking the glass after a shot goes up.
    No argument there regarding his role, but he lags behind other smaller POA defenders like Suggs, holiday, and Derrick white in rebound rate. I’m not going to hold him to the standard of say Amen Thompson, who’s bigger and more athletic and predictably crushes him in those metrics. I agree a lot of it is on his help defenders, but he should probably be doing more as well.

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    this doesn't surprise me at all, we keep playing large parts of the game without either a pf or a c on the floor.. Just because you have wemby, it doesn't mean you can get lazy and put shooters in.

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    the funny thing is we were a top 10 rebounding team early in the season and now we got the same problem that we had last year. One should think the Spurs coaching staff teaches players how to box out, but I guess they don't.

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    No argument there regarding his role, but he lags behind other smaller POA defenders like Suggs, holiday, and Derrick white in rebound rate. I’m not going to hold him to the standard of say Amen Thompson, who’s bigger and more athletic and predictably crushes him in those metrics. I agree a lot of it is on his help defenders, but he should probably be doing more as well.
    Doesn't really lag behind if we take their early seasons into account.
    Anyhow, out of all the major issues we have, I don't think this is the one we should be concerned for, he's got way more important things in his game that need fixing.

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    I wish we had Rasho still. For as much heat as he took for not rebounding as much as he should, he definitely boxed out effectively and helped teammates get the rebound.
    He's 48 now so I don't think he'd hold up too well.

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    somebody has to explain to me why our players are not boxing out? Is our coaching staff not teaching them basic basketball? We are dead last in the NBA and this has been a huge problem for a while now. Sniffers will probably say this is another genius stealth tank strategy

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/box-...&sort=BOX_OUTS
    so what you’re saying is our players have low basketball ball iq? That can’t be the case. I was told by the OP how great our player’s basketball iq was. In fact, I was told that it was laughable for me to even mention it or to even suggest our players don’t know how to play winning basketball…

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    There is no coaching staff. I'm serious when I say, these guys would struggle to coach high schoolers.

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    so what you’re saying is our players have low basketball ball iq? That can’t be the case. I was told by the OP how great our player’s basketball iq was. In fact, I was told that it was laughable for me to even mention it or to even suggest our players don’t know how to play winning basketball…
    It's not just that we're dead last in boxouts, but we're so far behind in last place.
    Spurs 4.0
    Blazers 4.6
    Pelicans 5.3
    Wizards 5.8 and then it's just increments of .1 with most teams in 6 to 8 range.

    Defensive box outs
    Spurs 3.2
    Blazers 3.5
    Pelicans 4.2

    25% less defensive boxouts than the third worst team.
    We're the Process Sixers of boxing out.

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    Wemby is horrible at boxing out and instead uses his length to reach over bigs who are in better position. That's the reason Anthony Davis always kills the Spurs on the offensive glass every time they match up and he has the length to still grab boards over Vic when AD is in better position.

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    Sochan last night in 26 minutes including back-up center minutes had 0 rebounds

    "But but but he's a legit power forward! He's the next Rodman!"

    Give me a break and trade this guy already. 63 year old Dennis Rodman would destroy him on the boards.

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    Not surprised by this at all as the spurs are so poorly coached and developed.

    That said, I’m not sure how to read this table. How can an entire team only have 4 to 8 box outs a game? There are multiple players boxing out in any given possession. I would imagine there will be something like hundreds a game.

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    Sochan last night in 26 minutes including back-up center minutes had 0 rebounds

    "But but but he's a legit power forward! He's the next Rodman!"

    Give me a break and trade this guy already. 63 year old Dennis Rodman would destroy him on the boards.
    Are you seriously thinking teams are dumb enough to want our players?

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    Are you seriously thinking teams are dumb enough to want our players?
    Kings traded a reliable wing who's a good shooter on a team-friendly for 35 year old Demar and gave up an unprotected FRP to do so.
    Also gave him a 3 year deal.

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    so what you’re saying is our players have low basketball ball iq? That can’t be the case. I was told by the OP how great our player’s basketball iq was. In fact, I was told that it was laughable for me to even mention it or to even suggest our players don’t know how to play winning basketball…
    I never said that, don't twist my words. Everybody knows our team is dumb as . We just disagreed on Vassell, who's actually one of our better rebounders.

    I'm also not saying this is our players fault. This is mostly on the coaches. If you can't get your players to do basic things like boxing out, you shouldn't be a coach period.
    Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 01-30-2025 at 01:11 PM.

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    Clips 57rebs - Zubac 22/ 9 ofensive
    Spurs 30 rebs !

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    Spurs are just not a tough team

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    Sochan last night in 26 minutes including back-up center minutes had 0 rebounds

    "But but but he's a legit power forward! He's the next Rodman!"

    Give me a break and trade this guy already. 63 year old Dennis Rodman would destroy him on the boards.
    He played the last 7mins of the game and didn't bring/do anything on the stats sheet...

    Doesn't do on D and handicap on O

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    He played the last 7mins of the game and didn't bring/do anything on the stats sheet...

    Doesn't do on D and handicap on O
    Trade him to the Wizards for Jonas Valančiūnas.

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