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    Trade with GSW that theoretically would allow spurs to send less draft capital out:

    SAS: Fox
    SAC: Kuminga; Wiggins
    GSW: Devin

    Spurs still send out some picks to SAC, but less so. Who says no?
    Inject this into my veins

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    Trade with GSW that theoretically would allow spurs to send less draft capital out:

    SAS: Fox
    SAC: Kuminga; Wiggins
    GSW: Devin

    Spurs still send out some picks to SAC, but less so. Who says no?
    Golden State says no. Wiggins is better than Vassell in pretty much every way.

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    https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-inte...hawks-pistons/

    Spurs updates on Keldon Johnson and Brandon Ingram


    San Antonio Spurs forward Keldon Johnson is a player several NBA executives are monitoring as a potential trade candidate if the team acquires De’Aaron Fox in a multi-team trade before the deadline.

    Two seasons removed from averaging 22 points per game, Johnson is still only 25 years old and is also intriguing given his descending contract. Johnson, who’s owed $19 million this season, is owed $35 million over the next two seasons ($17.5 million each season).

    Well before Fox became a trade candidate, the Spurs previously checked in to gauge the price tag on Pelicans forward Brandon Ingram, league sources told HoopsHype. Talks, however, were described as exploratory interest.

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    Simmons Trade Value Rankings are out: https://nbarankings.theringer.com/trade-value

    Sochan makes the "toughest omissions list", Vassell ranked #61, Castle Ranked #40 in the "Let me save you some time, NO" bucket (along with my guy, Trey Murphy), and of course... Victor Ranks #1 as the absolutely most untouchable player in the entire NBA.

    Fox ranked #19, in the "only if you make us do it" bucket (Spoiler Alert, he's making you do it)

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    https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-inte...hawks-pistons/

    Spurs updates on Keldon Johnson and Brandon Ingram


    San Antonio Spurs forward Keldon Johnson is a player several NBA executives are monitoring as a potential trade candidate if the team acquires De’Aaron Fox in a multi-team trade before the deadline.

    Two seasons removed from averaging 22 points per game, Johnson is still only 25 years old and is also intriguing given his descending contract. Johnson, who’s owed $19 million this season, is owed $35 million over the next two seasons ($17.5 million each season).

    Well before Fox became a trade candidate, the Spurs previously checked in to gauge the price tag on Pelicans forward Brandon Ingram, league sources told HoopsHype. Talks, however, were described as exploratory interest.
    So, several league execs see Keldon as an asset worth targeting.... get this done Wright... (a little pun intended)

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    Sam Vecenie had:

    SAS: Fox
    SAC: Levine + SAS picks
    CHI: Huerter; Spurs filler + return CHI pick

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    i think this is the way itll go honestly, we gotta bring in a third team

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    How many days until the deadline because i cant take this anymore. Im going to explode

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    How many days until the deadline because i cant take this anymore. Im going to explode
    Feb 6th.. so another week..

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    Golden State says no. Wiggins is better than Vassell in pretty much every way.
    I thought the whole point is that Wiggins has been ass this year. Anyway, they can still get there be sending other cannon fodder like fathead and shoder instead.

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    think a coach is first on the board.

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    So, several league execs see Keldon as an asset worth targeting.... get this done Wright... (a little pun intended)
    Buh bye Keldon. Let’s hope so.

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    i think this is the way itll go honestly, we gotta bring in a third team
    I think the Spurs will hold the line at Devin and two good picks (plus the CHA one for cosmetic reasons). And then they will tell SAC is you want other players instead from a third team we’ll happily facilitate.

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    Simmons Trade Value Rankings are out: https://nbarankings.theringer.com/trade-value

    Sochan makes the "toughest omissions list", Vassell ranked #61, Castle Ranked #40 in the "Let me save you some time, NO" bucket (along with my guy, Trey Murphy), and of course... Victor Ranks #1 as the absolutely most untouchable player in the entire NBA.

    Fox ranked #19, in the "only if you make us do it" bucket (Spoiler Alert, he's making you do it)
    Show this list to Houston, trade Vassell for Jabari smith. I’m not even going to ask for a protected FRP to make up the difference.

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    I thought the whole point is that Wiggins has been ass this year. Anyway, they can still get there be sending other cannon fodder like fathead and shoder instead.
    He has been pretty solid this year. Last year Wiggins was dog .

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    How many days until the deadline because i cant take this anymore. Im going to explode
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NebOetHhffU&t=39s

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    Was bored so thought I'd put together my complete 1-year Spurs overhaul. I understand this is not all that likely, but I tried to keep it realistic.

    Rules:

    1. for trades I tried to stick true to my Trade Value Prediction model. There are only slight deviations
    2. for draft picks, I took one and only one spin of the Tankathon simulator and picked from players available at that pick
    3. for free agents, I tried my best to use what I think are reasonable contracts

    Step 1. The Spurs get Fox.

    Spurs send: Devin Vassell + Keldon Johnson + Worst of ATL/SA25, CHI25, SA27, return the SAC31 swap
    Spurs get: Fox + Huerter

    Keldon sneaks his way into this trade. I was originally hoping to keep him separate, but I got to thinking of what teams would be dumb enough to value Keldon, and the Kings were top of that list. This saves an extra year of Keldon salary, and gives us a needed shooting boost.

    Step 2. Spurs get Big Daddy.

    Spurs send: Tre Jones + 2 SRPs
    Spurs get: Jonas Valanciunas

    WAS gets an expiring, and they had Tyus before so maybe they like these boys.

    Step 3. The NBA Draft.

    The two previous moves were in this season moves, now we move to the offseason, Tankathon don't let me down. Recall, we now only have the best of SA/ATL

    Tankathon spin gives us... CHI ends up 9 (does not convey), Spurs get #10, ATL is #11, so we are picking 10th. Best available are Fears, Newell, Queen, Saraf, Traore, Essengue, McNeeey, CMB, Hugo, Philon, Ian Jackson, de Larrea, Fleming.

    I'm not super in love with any of these guys, tbh. I'm gonna go ahead and do something crazy and reach for Rasheer Fleming based on the love affair a lot of sharp folks on this board have with him. Most of these other guys can't shoot, and disqualified themselves with that alone. I don't really love McNeeley based on the game I watched him play in Maui. I really considered Ian Jackson and Sergio de Larrea, but Ian Jackson gives me Lonnie vibes in all the best and worst ways, and de Larrea takes a little bit of a hit since we just acquired Fox.

    In round 2, I'm taking who Tankathon has for us at #39 in Dink Pate. Tankathon has us taking Michael Ruzic with pick #40 so we'll either stash him in Europe or trade the pick. My guy Drake Powell unfortunately went #36 to Detroit.

    Step 4. Free Agency.

    Since we drafted Fleming I suddenly find myself out of the Naz Reid/Santi Aldama business. However, I am signing Jake Laravia to a 3-year/$36MM flat deal. I am extending Jeremy Sochan at 5/$90MM. I am resigning CP3 to a 1/$20MM deal. It's an overpay for CP3 but it's a reward for being a good soldier with his contract this year and it doesn't hurt us on the cap (we'll be over the cap but well below the taxline and the first apron). I'm not able to move Collins, Branham or Wesley quite yet... but I'm bringing in some vets on min deals and I'll waive Blake and Bran and eat the dead money if I have to. I'm holding Collins for use as an expiring if something good comes along

    5. The 2025-26 Spurs

    Fox/CP3/Wesley
    Castle/Champ/Wesley/Bran (but it's primarily a 3-man guard rotation with Blake getting extraneous minutes)
    Barnes/Laravia/Champ/Pate/Sidy (I eventually expect Laravia to take the starting job)
    Fleming/Sochan/Laravia (Sochan becomes our energy bench guy)
    Wemby/Jonas/Collins

    6. The 2026 Offseason.

    Despite extensions for Fox and Sochan, we enter the summer of 2026 with $41MM of cap space with 9 guys under contract (Wemby, Castle, Sochan, Champ, Fox, Fleming, Laravia, Jonas, Pate).

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    Sam Vecenie had:

    SAS: Fox
    SAC: Levine + SAS picks
    CHI: Huerter; Spurs filler + return CHI pick
    Can that happen with Johnson and Collins. Collins contract is so ed. Give bulls their second and a few more?

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    Was bored so thought I'd put together my complete 1-year Spurs overhaul. I understand this is not all that likely, but I tried to keep it realistic.

    Rules:

    1. for trades I tried to stick true to my Trade Value Prediction model. There are only slight deviations
    2. for draft picks, I took one and only one spin of the Tankathon simulator and picked from players available at that pick
    3. for free agents, I tried my best to use what I think are reasonable contracts

    Step 1. The Spurs get Fox.

    Spurs send: Devin Vassell + Keldon Johnson + Worst of ATL/SA25, CHI25, SA27, return the SAC31 swap
    Spurs get: Fox + Huerter

    Keldon sneaks his way into this trade. I was originally hoping to keep him separate, but I got to thinking of what teams would be dumb enough to value Keldon, and the Kings were top of that list. This saves an extra year of Keldon salary, and gives us a needed shooting boost.

    Step 2. Spurs get Big Daddy.

    Spurs send: Tre Jones + 2 SRPs
    Spurs get: Jonas Valanciunas

    WAS gets an expiring, and they had Tyus before so maybe they like these boys.

    Step 3. The NBA Draft.

    The two previous moves were in this season moves, now we move to the offseason, Tankathon don't let me down. Recall, we now only have the best of SA/ATL

    Tankathon spin gives us... CHI ends up 9 (does not convey), Spurs get #10, ATL is #11, so we are picking 10th. Best available are Fears, Newell, Queen, Saraf, Traore, Essengue, McNeeey, CMB, Hugo, Philon, Ian Jackson, de Larrea, Fleming.

    I'm not super in love with any of these guys, tbh. I'm gonna go ahead and do something crazy and reach for Rasheer Fleming based on the love affair a lot of sharp folks on this board have with him. Most of these other guys can't shoot, and disqualified themselves with that alone. I don't really love McNeeley based on the game I watched him play in Maui. I really considered Ian Jackson and Sergio de Larrea, but Ian Jackson gives me Lonnie vibes in all the best and worst ways, and de Larrea takes a little bit of a hit since we just acquired Fox.

    In round 2, I'm taking who Tankathon has for us at #39 in Dink Pate. Tankathon has us taking Michael Ruzic with pick #40 so we'll either stash him in Europe or trade the pick. My guy Drake Powell unfortunately went #36 to Detroit.

    Step 4. Free Agency.

    Since we drafted Fleming I suddenly find myself out of the Naz Reid/Santi Aldama business. However, I am signing Jake Laravia to a 3-year/$36MM flat deal. I am extending Jeremy Sochan at 5/$90MM. I am resigning CP3 to a 1/$20MM deal. It's an overpay for CP3 but it's a reward for being a good soldier with his contract this year and it doesn't hurt us on the cap (we'll be over the cap but well below the taxline and the first apron). I'm not able to move Collins, Branham or Wesley quite yet... but I'm bringing in some vets on min deals and I'll waive Blake and Bran and eat the dead money if I have to. I'm holding Collins for use as an expiring if something good comes along

    5. The 2025-26 Spurs

    Fox/CP3/Wesley
    Castle/Champ/Wesley/Bran (but it's primarily a 3-man guard rotation with Blake getting extraneous minutes)
    Barnes/Laravia/Champ/Pate/Sidy (I eventually expect Laravia to take the starting job)
    Fleming/Sochan/Laravia (Sochan becomes our energy bench guy)
    Wemby/Jonas/Collins

    6. The 2026 Offseason.

    Despite extensions for Fox and Sochan, we enter the summer of 2026 with $41MM of cap space with 9 guys under contract (Wemby, Castle, Sochan, Champ, Fox, Fleming, Laravia, Jonas, Pate).
    scott what are the min deal vets you're targeting?

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    Can that happen with Johnson and Collins. Collins contract is so ed. Give bulls their second and a few more?
    Collins, Malaki, Tre does it, or Collins + Johnson too. And probably no need to send picks to SAC, actually, since they get their win now player (who apparently they’ve targeted before).

    But, the Bulls will need to be compensated. That said are competing narratives about Levine: “his deal is so bad” (meaning bulls are getting off said bad deal and that value in itself) but also that he is having an amazing year (meaning bulls will still need some value back).

    Bottom line: I like this deal because it’s the one that might cost us the least quality player AND draft capital.

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    Step 4. Free Agency.

    Since we drafted Fleming I suddenly find myself out of the Naz Reid/Santi Aldama business. However, I am signing Jake Laravia to a 3-year/$36MM flat deal. I am extending Jeremy Sochan at 5/$90MM. I am resigning CP3 to a 1/$20MM deal. It's an overpay for CP3 but it's a reward for being a good soldier with his contract this year and it doesn't hurt us on the cap (we'll be over the cap but well below the taxline and the first apron). I'm not able to move Collins, Branham or Wesley quite yet... but I'm bringing in some vets on min deals and I'll waive Blake and Bran and eat the dead money if I have to. I'm holding Collins for use as an expiring if something good comes along
    it may end up just being a sequence thing, like when we had to make our moves in a very particular ordre to land aldridge (renounce manu, re-sign duncan, then sign LMA, and only then sign re-sign kawhi)... but what kind of bird rights do we have on CP3 to be able to sign him to that type of deal above the cap?

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    thats good


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    Josh Giddey doesn’t understand the age requirements for dating young tacos.

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    Pop's wet dream is a Tre Jones, Castle, Giddey, Sochan, Wemby line up

    "a whole lot of playmaking to get Wemby easy buckets"

    "But what about shooting?"

    "who cares, maybe they should invent a 4-point shot"

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    thats good



    Jesus I hope this is BS. Because if there's even a modi of truth then it further confirms how inept our FO is

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