Spurs Select Rob Dillingham 8th Overall in the 2024 NBA Draft

[Sugus]

I agree with all your takes here - I think you, myself, spurraider (IIRC) and KobesAchilles (again IIRC) are among the few who are still on the fence on Devin. Everyone else seems fully ready to anoint him as part of our future Big3, but I'm not completely sure how he fits. If he plays like he did the other night against SAC... then yeah, for sure. But that was kind of the ideal, 99th percentile outcome version of Devin. Is that sustainable? If it is, then we're cooking. I'm really optimistic on Castle, but he's not quite as apparent for s om as a rookie as someone like Jalen Williams, but Castle is looking as good as we could have hoped at this point and I think he'll be a star.

Count me in on this club, actually, tbh.

I've had my doubts about Devin ever since we passed on Haliburton for him (though with Hali's potential back issues, it's looking more and more like the correct decision). I do like his game, and his shooting is clearly something, but he's always seemed a little underwhelming for what he could provide given his player profile. That, and the availability factor, are my main stoppers from getting too attached to Vassell long-term.

Last but certainly not least -- with Wemby (ofc) and Castle looking like staples, and Sochan climbing up to that tier (we'll see if he sustains pre-injury level moving forward), the SG and SF spots turn into the only places where real change and upgrade can be had, and true "Star Power" added to the team. I wouldn't sell low on him at all, but I also wouldn't mind him being the centerpiece in a trade for an All-NBA SG when the time is right.

[scott]

Count me in on this club, actually, tbh.

I've had my doubts about Devin ever since we passed on Haliburton for him (though with Hali's potential back issues, it's looking more and more like the correct decision). I do like his game, and his shooting is clearly something, but he's always seemed a little underwhelming for what he could provide given his player profile. That, and the availability factor, are my main stoppers from getting too attached to Vassell long-term.

Last but certainly not least -- with Wemby (ofc) and Castle looking like staples, and Sochan climbing up to that tier (we'll see if he sustains pre-injury level moving forward), the SG and SF spots turn into the only places where real change and upgrade can be had, and true "Star Power" added to the team. I wouldn't sell low on him at all, but I also wouldn't mind him being the centerpiece in a trade for an All-NBA SG when the time is right.

I take exception to this one bolded part. This is the beauty of Castle and Sochan (and I think Sochan will become a core secondary guy, but not necessarily part of our Big 3 - I just don't know that he has the skills for it, but that isn't to say he won't be super valuable and a long term piece). If Castle and Sochan are those guys, I still think it's one guard and one forward where we can upgrade because of the position flex those two guys offer. I'll use extreme examples which may not be the best but they are the easiest for me to try to get my point across. If Castle emerges as a star, I think you can still pair him with a Dearon Fox (pure PG), a Devin Booker (combo G), or an Ant Edwards (pure SG). I don't see any of those archetypes conflicting with Steph. With Sochan, it's a little trickier. I don't think we could pair him with Giannis, for example, but I think he just as easily pairs with a Lauri (combo SF/PF) as he does a Brandon Miller (pure SF) or Cam Johnson (pure PF).

Devin locks things up a little more, IMO, since I think he can really only play SG and maybe SF, but a SG/SF doesn't actually provide that much position flex, IMO.

[ambchang]

Thanks for the complement, first of all, I appreciate it. I really like it when we can all just settle into some good, rational debate on our opinions of things that at the end of the day are all unknowns and none of us have a crystal ball on.

I agree with all your takes here - I think you, myself, spurraider (IIRC) and KobesAchilles (again IIRC) are among the few who are still on the fence on Devin. Everyone else seems fully ready to anoint him as part of our future Big3, but I'm not completely sure how he fits. If he plays like he did the other night against SAC... then yeah, for sure. But that was kind of the ideal, 99th percentile outcome version of Devin. Is that sustainable? If it is, then we're cooking. I'm really optimistic on Castle, but he's not quite as apparent for s om as a rookie as someone like Jalen Williams, but Castle is looking as good as we could have hoped at this point and I think he'll be a star.

The only take I disagree with is on Orlando. I think Paolo is the real deal, and I like the team they've built. Franz has taken a big leap this year as well. Anthony Black has made a decent year 2 jump, then just need to get something out of Jett Howard. I like the ensemble of bigs the have in Carter Jr (when healthy)-Goga-Mo Wagner. I don't see any major holes in their team, and they are fun to watch. They play great defense, and they'll get a big boost when Paolo returns.

Good points about Orlando. If I’m wrong about Paulo it’s not the first time I’m wrong about your players. I counted antman out last summer and he busted out last year (although I think he’s falling back to earth this year team record wise, but he is still looking like an mvp candidate), I didn’t (and still don’t) like haliburton. I think his drop in production is due to his injuries but even without his injuries his defence just offsets everything he does on offence.

For paolo, I’m not sure what is missing; his game produce numbers but I don’t see how he helps his team wins

[BatManu20]

Still hurts

[onechance87]

i hope we dont regret this decision.

[spurraider21]

i still remember that moment of euphoria when i heard the pick. castle/dillingham was a dream combo of mine (once risacher and sheppard were gone)

[Leetonidas]

Still hurts

At least it was against the Jazz

[stephen jackson]

yeah his game was nice against jazz well see

[stephen jackson]

id take him off the bench over tre and hed be cheaper

[spurraider21]

his numbers since white donte got hurt

[John B]

If they’re serious about getting Fox, how they’ll even find minutes for Dilly? If you’re talking about Edey who I think the Spurs can use against centers like Zubac, yes. I wish they used 8th on Edey instead.

[LeBowen]

i still remember that moment of euphoria when i heard the pick. castle/dillingham was a dream combo of mine (once risacher and sheppard were gone)

I was supposed to win $50 in that draft prediction topic, I had us picking Castle and Dillingham.

[RC_Drunkford]

Still hurts

see how his speed makes him tough to guard? He was giving the Thompson twins at Overtime Elite

[spurraider21]

I was supposed to win $50 in that draft prediction topic, I had us picking Castle and Dillingham.

check them receipts boy

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=303916

[rjv]

see how his speed makes him tough to guard? He was giving the Thompson twins at Overtime Elite

if he gives Amen with the Rockets then I'd be impressed but the Jazz make a lot of players look great. scoot had 18 and 10 against the Jazz in December, including the game winner.

[Mnky]

His archetype isn't the best in the NBA. He's a great scorer. Great change of pace. Wanted him to be the patty mills role since Tre couldn't develop the offense to.

But those two picks in the future are more valuable than a bench scorer tbh. Especially when Wemby needs assets to keep the dream alive in possibly acquiring talent.

[Kurik]

No regrets especially when based on Minny’s history.

[Atl Spur]

This draft should shore up any outstanding issues, plus let’s not forget about Juan Nunez in the future.

[jeebus]

He'll be a great tank commander for Minny to get us a top 5 pick during Vic's prime.

[widowmaker]

Bubba bubbba bubba 2032 pick

[CGD]

Still hurts

Dem
Mighty
Jazz

[The Truth #6]

We need talent now to help unlock so many of our problematic players and even to help set up Victor who can't do it all by himself. So even if the pick in 2031 becomes a better player, it's not as useful in my opinion as a player who's only half or 2/3 as good now. If said player now can make players around him better even if just on offense, then he improves several players simultaneously who are stuck in arrested development, so to speak.

I mean, isn't that why we're getting Fox, basically a super charged Dillingham at supercharged prices?

[spursparker9]

He is a repeat history of how we gave away the pick for Leandro Barbosa to the Suns

[scott]

I'm not mad about not having Dillingham. He's fun - but doesn't fit what we're doing here, and not really comparable to the kind of player Fox is.

With that said, having Dillingham right now would probably be more valuable than a 2031 MIN pick in trying to get Fox. Oh well.

[CGD]

Lets close this down!