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    ...Democrats. I doubt it will

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-results.html

    It's the New York Times so, I suppose it could be rubbish.

    Yesterday, they put up a nifty map that dramatizes just how badly Democrats lost votes in their biggest strongholds—deep blue metro areas—and among their strongest voting demographics, mainly lower middle income, working class, and minority voters.

    Each of the pairs below displays the blue-red vote share for 2020 on the left, which shows that Democrats easily held their strongholds; but the map on the right shows how much the various neighborhoods and towns shifted to Trump in 2024 over 2020—the deeper the red, the larger the shift. Let’s start with the greater Los Angeles area:



    San Francisco and Bay Area:



    Greater New York City:


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    This is permanent, in your opinion?

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    This is permanent, in your opinion?
    Sure, why not. Can you demonstrate this being a temporary phenomenon in previous elections?

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    You Trump s vote for team sports and violence. America going backwards is sad and pathetic.

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    Sure, why not. Can you demonstrate this being a temporary phenomenon in previous elections?
    Yes.

    My evidence: previous elections.

    Your politics as religion shtick is cute but unrealistic. Your God will die, then we'll have to see what happens.

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    They won't talk about it, they never do

    They think a white man will save them

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    Already talked about it. In my opinion, all we have to do is wait for you to everything up again like you always do.

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    Healthcare? Meh
    Inflation? Meh

    Kick out a few illegal immigrants that don't affect you yourself directly at all? YEAH! That's wut I voted fur

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    Overall, Trump's level of support stayed roughly the same as 2020

    Harris got 3-4% less than Biden in 2020. Dems couldn't get off the couch to vote for Harris.

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    Harris/Walz spent too much time hugging billionaires, celebrities and Republicans. Harris also failed to differentiate herself from Biden.

    Also, "we're not them" was a loser. Maybe next time they can find some motivation to do at least pretend to do people like.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 01-31-2025 at 11:11 PM. Reason: at least pretend

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    Harris/Walz spent too much time hugging billionaires, celebrities and Republicans. Harris also failed to differentiate herself from Biden.

    Also, "we're not them" was a loser. Maybe next time they can find some motivation to do people like.
    Until then Trump rules.

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    Until then Trump rules.
    we will see what Trump does and doesn't do. he seems to think the whole government belongs to him, but factually speaking that simply isn't true

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    we will see what Trump does and doesn't do. he seems to think the whole government belongs to him, but factually speaking that simply isn't true
    He can't lose. He can only be >stood down< on (AGAIN).

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    He can't lose. He can only be >stood down< on (AGAIN).
    Sure he can


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    They won't talk about it, they never do

    They think a white man will save them
    you've barely said anything

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    The only way is if you gain the House in 2 years and Impeach him and the Senate goes along and convicts. The chances of that happening are 1 in a million.

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    The only way is if you gain the House in 2 years and Impeach him and the Senate goes along and convicts. The chances of that happening are 1 in a million.
    I think you underestimate the corruption and incompetence of Trump and the fickle nature of public opinion.

    GWB looked invincible in 2004 but got crushed in 2006.

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    Lol is he still paying Herschel Walker for his USFL football contract?

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    Lol is he still paying Herschel Walker for his USFL football contract?
    dude, I totally forgot about that


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    Trump promptly fired Fairbanks. Seeking a high-profile coach, he initially tried to lure Joe Gibbs of the Washington Redskins.[2] When those talks failed, he turned to legendary Miami Dolphins coach Don Shula. Trump offered him a $5 million contract. Shula was receptive, but insisted on getting a rent-free apartment at Trump Tower. In October 1983, Trump announced that the deal was all but done, but the only snag was Shula's insistence on an apartment. A furious Shula broke off talks.
    (wikipedia)

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    Lol is he still paying Herschel Walker for his USFL football contract?
    the USFL did not survive the transition to the fall schedule in 1986

    In 1984, Trump convinced most of his fellow owners to move to a fall schedule in 1986. He contended that if the USFL were to hold its own against the NFL, it would eventually force a merger with the more established league—in which the owners of any USFL teams included in a merger would see their investment more than double.

    The Generals acquired the assets of one of the teams displaced by the vote to move to the fall, the Houston Gamblers, during the extended off-season. This was widely reported as a merger, since the Generals inherited all of the Gamblers' player contracts—including those of quarterback Jim Kelly and wide receiver Ricky Sanders. Michaels was fired, replaced with former Gamblers coach Jack Pardee, who planned to bring Kelly and the Gamblers' high-powered run and shoot offense with him. Fans immediately dubbed the Kelly–Walker led Generals as the USFL's "Dream Team."

    However, the revamped Generals never played a down. The 1986 season was cancelled after the USFL won only a nominal one-dollar verdict in an an rust lawsuit against the NFL (which was trebled to three dollars due to it being an an rust suit); the league folded soon afterward.

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    I think you underestimate the corruption and incompetence of Trump and the fickle nature of public opinion.

    GWB looked invincible in 2004 but got crushed in 2006.
    But Trump can't run again, Winester. He can't lose.

    & I thought Bush2 won his two terms in the White House?

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    Jesus op is a got. I guess I wasn't down here much when he used to post a lot. Let me guess...nigger president! broke him like the rest and he's been trying to reconcile his feelings ever since.

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