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    That looks realistically the best line up as if Sac does trade I think they are going to want and need a PG so I would assume CP3 might be in the trade

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    Windy is now saying Warriors are the most likely team to get Jimmy.
    I don't see that 4-way trade happening.

    As I said before, ATL as the third team makes most sense.
    Maybe NOLA (Ingram), BRK (Cam) or UTA (Collins).

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    That looks realistically the best line up as if Sac does trade I think they are going to want and need a PG so I would assume CP3 might be in the trade
    I don't think spurs would do CP3 like that. They can have Jones and just start Malik Monk at PG instead.

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    So what are those chumps Don Harris and Dusty Garza saying this morning? Can't post any updates out of respect for tonights game?

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    If it’s really a 4 team trade I’d say it’s SA, Sac, Brooklyn and NO.

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    The next Domino to drop would be Fox being sat against OKC. If you are trying to maximize return you can’t have the guy getting hurt like DJ last night. That would tell me they are close to a deal.

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    Isn’t Fox already hurt / needs hand surgery? Would they just have him get it now (even if we acquired him) so he’s ready for next year?

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    If it’s really a 4 team trade I’d say it’s SA, Sac, Brooklyn and NO.
    That would be good to not help out any real contenders. Not that what the Spurs have to offer is gonna help much.

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    Always one to wear his heart on his sleeve. Keldon knows he’s cooked.


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    I don't want to give up Castle for Fox.

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    Isn’t Fox already hurt / needs hand surgery? Would they just have him get it now (even if we acquired him) so he’s ready for next year?
    Wondering the same. Seems like if they get him he'll be out for the rest of the season. Might help the deal him not being 100%, but don't really know how bad it is and what the recovery will be.

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    Wondering the same. Seems like if they get him he'll be out for the rest of the season. Might help the deal him not being 100%, but don't really know how bad it is and what the recovery will be.
    Apparently it's a finger ligamet injury on his left hand, nothing serious.

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    I don't want to give up Castle for Fox.
    We're not according to reports.

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    Today is the day that a bunch of new people learn that Dusty Garza and Don Harris are completely full of

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    Seeing as Don Harris’s brother in law is a Kings executive, he knows. Garza is just the parrot

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    The next Domino to drop would be Fox being sat against OKC. If you are trying to maximize return you can’t have the guy getting hurt like DJ last night. That would tell me they are close to a deal.
    Likewise with our guys. If Devin or Keldon were going out, wouldn't we sit them? Maybe Keldon is sad (and Devin is ty) because the team has told them "yeah, there are discussions and you might be involved" (which would shock me) but if a deal were close, wouldn't we sit them?

    I can't think of any cir stances of how we've done this in the past, seems like all our recent trades have been on off days. The trade deadline is always during the Rodeo Road Trip though, which is kind of rough - you gotta trade a guy while he's on a road trip.

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    Seeing as Don Harris’s brother in law is a Kings executive, he knows. Garza is just the parrot
    I've seen people say this... but is it confirmed? What does he supposedly do? I know several executives at the Spurs organization, but they wouldn't know about a trade because Brian Wright and RC aren't calling up those types of people to fill them in.

    There isn't anyone named Harris on the King's organizational roster. https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/te.../staff-members

    Pre-emptive edit: It's not Harris's brother, it's his Brother-in-Law, and it's apparently Alvin Gentry (found an old Tweet by Harris where me mentions his BIL is Alvin). Alvin is obviously a basketball guy, not some VP of Ticket Sales or some ... but his official le is "VP of Basketball Engagement". Who knows what this le means and if he'd actually be in the inner circle on a trade, but at least this Harris's brother thing is legit, and you'd think Don wouldn't pump complete BS if it involves his BIL.

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    Wondering the same. Seems like if they get him he'll be out for the rest of the season. Might help the deal him not being 100%, but don't really know how bad it is and what the recovery will be.
    Well that’s also an elegant solution for CP3 then. Interesting

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    Well that’s also an elegant solution for CP3 then. Interesting
    Depending on whether we keep our pick, it might also help us increase our odds at a top 4-5 pick this year, one last time.

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    the problem is the Kings have too many cooks in the kitchen and not one person making the final decision. So whatever they are saying, some people could be in their FO blocking the whole thing and it won't fall through. This is what apparently happened with the Cam Johnson trade before.

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    So a few folks have been reaching out checking if I'm okay. I am fine, and I appreciate you checking. I've just had limited time lately and have been into some other things. I've watched basically every Spurs game with varying degrees of attention.

    This season is going about how I would expect it to go. The Spurs are mediocre, and I'm fine with that. This season is like watching plants grow. It's not exciting while it's happening, but it's a necessary part of the process. I think the Spurs are getting some answers for how they can build the team moving forward. Some of those answers are disappointing, but it was important that they are taking the time to verify that. Some are exciting.

    My overall stance hasn't changed: The Spurs should be looking at acquiring players for the roles they currently want them to fill and not acquire them for the roles they hope they'll be able to fill in the future. If the Spurs want a second option who can step up in the playoffs, they need to go for older vets who have already shown they're good at that. If they want a guy who can grow with Wemby for the next five years, they should be looking at high draft picks. What I don't think they should do is try to split that difference by paying a premium for young vets who haven't proven anything but who also want max contracts.

    As a result, a Fox trade doesn't really appeal right now. I think in any major trade, you have to ask yourself: What is the path to true contention going forward? I don't think Wemby and Fox get you there. I think you're still chasing that star wing, and while the Spurs may still have the assets and flexibility to get them there, I don't think they have the window to take advantage of it. I believe Wemby still needs at the very least another year after this one for seasoning, and so you end up with basically three max contracts and a lot fewer assets to play around that in a league where bloated salaries are getting harder to collect.

    So for me, I think the team should be planning for 2026. Hopefully, they have a third year of draft luck and Castle continues to develop. The bigger thing is maintaining a clean cap going into that summer and combining that, the trade assets and the progression of the key youngsters into a roster with an actual window. Yes, that means there is more pain or at least mediocrity ahead, but it's necessary. The Spurs CANNOT afford to mess up the timing of this push. That is how you end up losing stars.

    In terms of what kind of opportunities would cause me to want the Spurs to break off the 2026 path, there are only a handful of players. I still think that Curry, Lebron and Durant would be worth it in terms of old vets who can still get it done if put into ideal conditions. I'm excluding obvious prime MVP candidates like Jokic, SGA and Giannis (and yes, I'm glad people are realizing that he's actually a POS -- he's been that since before he got into the NBA). When talking about young PGs who I think could form a real championship foundation with Wemby, the list basically begins and ends with Morant. If you have Ja and Vic, you can go into "fill in the pieces" mode. Short of him, the surrounding team needs a lot more growth to make it work.

    So we'll see what happens. If there is a Fox trade, I don't personally expect it to have the results folks want it to. If it happens in the off-season in conjunction with some good moves, then I might end up feeling differently. In terms of other deadline moves, I kind of think the team should just stand pat. They've lost a few too many games for me to think a win-now move makes sense. But I also wouldn't want them to sell off Paul or Barnes and forgo the growth their presence facilitates. IF some team is willing to offer something great for Vassell or Johnson, it might make sense to listen. I'm sure it would be a task to sell taking a step back to Vic, but depending on how that deal goes, 2025 cap space might be an option.

    As for me, I'll try to be around a bit more often. I still think SpursTalk is really the only forum to go for Spurs discussion. I'm glad to see Teeds is back and that folks seem to be doing well. That said, we're kind of at a point of the year where we're just spinning our wheels. When things actually change, there will be more to talk about outside of the cycle of frustration some folks seem to be in right now.

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    I don’t think Don Harris is lying. He told the truth - but it’s not his truth to tell. The Spurs front office controls the narrative - (All Media). He knows this and shouldn’t have said anything.

    He’s probably in trouble.

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    If it’s really a 4 team trade I’d say it’s SA, Sac, Brooklyn and NO.
    The streets are saying it’s NO, ATL, SAC and SA and maybe UTA as well (could be another team too at end of day)

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    I don’t believe Spurs Report guy but one little detail where it makes sense with local guys here possibly: Spurs and Kings and the local guys have lots of relationships built up over YEARS.

    Don Harris knows Mike Brown (which is great also because for Spurs to like Fox, Brown would undoubtedly have been asked about his work ethic, talent etc.), Alvin Gentry (this is key relationship for information IMO) etc…so someone like him who definitely knows key players within Kings or around Kings stands to reason he could be getting very direct and good info here.
    I've seen people say this... but is it confirmed? What does he supposedly do? I know several executives at the Spurs organization, but they wouldn't know about a trade because Brian Wright and RC aren't calling up those types of people to fill them in.

    There isn't anyone named Harris on the King's organizational roster. https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/te.../staff-members

    Pre-emptive edit: It's not Harris's brother, it's his Brother-in-Law, and it's apparently Alvin Gentry (found an old Tweet by Harris where me mentions his BIL is Alvin). Alvin is obviously a basketball guy, not some VP of Ticket Sales or some ... but his official le is "VP of Basketball Engagement". Who knows what this le means and if he'd actually be in the inner circle on a trade, but at least this Harris's brother thing is legit, and you'd think Don wouldn't pump complete BS if it involves his BIL.
    Yessir - Gentry is the connection

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    Can this thread get to 100 pages without a deal?

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