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    Can't wait to fight the Lakers with Wemby, Fox and Castle.........

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    Do we get Flagg in the next draft???

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    Wtf

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    I'm curious to see what Doncic work ethic will be with Lakers. Between the spotlight/nightlife/celebrities, Lakers might be the more challenging place for someone like him.
    As a basketball fan, I just want to see a fit and motivated Doncic. He is such a special talent.

    ...........

    Or he does the easy route

    And indulges farther

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    Nope, they won't be able to open up any real space even if Lebron takes the min. Which he's not going to.
    Luka - 46
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    That's only $136MM. Cap is $155. It's not massive, but it's not a bad cap situation. They almost certainly make some more moves before the deadline. I imagine they might try to punt off some salary and just call GGs on this season

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    Plus the maverick had to send Utah a second rounder to get the deal done

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    No way the Lakers can beat us in the Western finals with Wemby, Fox and Castle

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    Plus the maverick had to send Utah a second rounder to get the deal done
    How did the Spurs miss an opportunity to pick up another 2nd round pick?

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    Huh, so I guess teams going all in to build around their blue-chip picks in their first couple of seasons still isn't a good strategy. Damn, I really thought the hundredth time some FO tried it, it would work...

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    Luka - 46
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    Bronny -2

    That's only $136MM. Cap is $155. It's not massive, but it's not a bad cap situation. They almost certainly make some more moves before the deadline. I imagine they might try to punt off some salary and just call GGs on this season
    They'd have to trade LeBron to punt on the season. I think they do at this point tbh.

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    Huh, so I guess teams going all in to build around their blue-chip picks in their first couple of seasons still isn't a good strategy. Damn, I really thought the hundredth time some FO tried it, it would work...
    Yes, it is well known that surrounding your blue-chippers with competent rosters that make the finals gives you brain worms that ultimately lead you to trade said blue-chippers to the Lakers for a fraction of the market price

    The victory lap is yours

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    They'd have to trade LeBron to punt in the season. I think they do at this point tbh.
    Yeah, I think there are decent odds of that happening. Warriors?

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    But they didn't even test the market. They just really really wanted Davis. They could have asked for more and Lakers would have said yes
    They couldn't have tested the market, the pressure would've been insane from their fanbase.

    Only criticism to me is they only got 1 FRP when imo they could've gotten 2

    Dallas clearly knows stuff we don't

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    Seeing more details on ESPN about how the Mavs were pissed with Luka’s weight and fatness and how his calf stains are due to his conditioning.

    Maybe this is more similar to the Spurs-Kawhi fiasco where spurs didn’t want to commit super max money with Kawhi’s knee issues.

    The difference is the Mavs got AD and the Spurs got Jacob Portal and DePression.
    Yep. Spurs trade of Kawhi is one of the worst in NBA history. Mavs got back a great, but older player.

    At the time, without knowing that Kawhi would sit out so many games in the future, there was only one player in the league that I wanted to trade him for and that is Anthony Davis. At least the Mavericks got Anthony Davis (an older AD, but still AD). They should have at least got back a second first round pick.

    The Dallas pick swap that the Spurs have, does that have any protections on it?

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    Yeah, I think there are decent odds of that happening. Warriors?
    If LeBron actually wants to ring he'd go elsewhere, otherwise Dubs or Clips.

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    Sir

    Sana all po hahaha

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    Seeing more details on ESPN about how the Mavs were pissed with Luka’s weight and fatness and how his calf stains are due to his conditioning.

    Maybe this is more similar to the Spurs-Kawhi fiasco where spurs didn’t want to commit super max money with Kawhi’s knee issues.

    The difference is the Mavs got AD and the Spurs got Jacob Portal and DePression.
    This.

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    Impossible for LeBron not to be in the information loop

    He would throw a tantrum, yes?

    Lol

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    I hate the Lakers so much

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    Sounds like Luka came home with the locks changed.

    Dallas said im done

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    Our front office better wake the up.Stop with this culture or loyalty bull and bring in good players already fck.

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    Luka - 46
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    DFS - 15 (option)
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    Knect - 4
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    That's only $136MM. Cap is $155. It's not massive, but it's not a bad cap situation. They almost certainly make some more moves before the deadline. I imagine they might try to punt off some salary and just call GGs on this season
    Actual number is closer to 139, but then you also need to factor in Lebron's salary. So if he gets the min, lets say the end up at 141.5. But that's also just 11 players. So then you have a cap hold as well. 13 million is basically what you're left with which is the MLE which is how I KNOW Lebron isn't taking the min because why the would he give up money that doesn't open up more space?

    Also why is Lebron going to help them if they are punting on a season with him at 40? That would be very different than how he's operated. I definitely think they HAVE to make moves, but they are in an incredibly inflexible position to move on with Lebron and still have a good team. I think ultimately they obviously should always make this trade, but the more I think about it the more I think there's a big chance this is the end of the Lebron era in LA.

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    Yes, it is well known that surrounding your blue-chippers with competent rosters that make the finals gives you brain worms that ultimately lead you to trade said blue-chippers to the Lakers for a fraction of the market price

    The victory lap is yours
    I know you're being sarcastic, and I get how this situation in particular seems so absurd that it makes no sense to try to look at it as part of a trend.. Every time something like this fails, there's always some special reason to justify why it didn't work out. However, the fact that despite all the unique cir stances each situation has, this result happens basically every single time should give you pause. Luka didn't want to commit to a moribund team that has no future, so he wasn't willing to put in the work despite his considerable talent. The lack of a path to contention makes stars ask out far more than a team having a path but not moving early enough.

    The Spurs aren't likely to win a le over the next 2-4 years with or without Fox (or Markkanen or Young). They are much more likely to lose their chance in 4-6 years to win if they give up their best assets in a quest to try to make something of a Wemby/Fox core now. And no, it's not sniffing, because I have no idea what the Spurs are going to do. If they trade for Fox, I'll still think it was the wrong move. I'll try to focus on the good of it, but that's not the same thing as me thinking it was a nice move. Fox is not on Morant's tier, regardless of what some stats say. Fox is the kind of guy you hope is a number 2 to a Wemby who's developed enough to win a le. Morant a guy who can be a 1a/1b with Wemby while Victor is still growing. He has MVP candidate upside. Fox does not. Of course, Morant has his issues that make him a risky get, and he's not on the block. My point is that when you have to try to build around Wemby and one other max player, that breaking point is Morant. Fox, Garland and even Young aren't above that cutoff.

    Someone who is above that breaking point and may actually be available is Irving. He has plenty of his own problems. But he's firmly in that trench where he can be the player to help Wemby now while also being too old to require major investment. You get him for a couple of years, and then you let him go and hope either someone like Castle has proven himself or that a target aligned with the team's needs is around is available.

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