Sacramento will get vassell,kj and our worst firstand like it
Immediate implications to my mind:
1. Wow, that Dallas swap looks tasty now
2. If LAL strikes out on trades for C replacements, can Zollins come into play?
3. They’re not in the same class, but I wonder if it weakens SACs asking price seeing how low Luka went for?
4. Looking at their capsheet, it’s clear spurs were targeting the 2026 free agency class. i think Luka had to be near their top of the list. Does this change their strategy any (ie willingness to take longer term money)?
All great points. I especially like #2. I also wonder who else might be available now to add to to Wemby + Fox if we look at it through the lens of your #4.
Well, that Luka trade, sure makes pur desperation Nephew trade look like one of the best this century.
Went down highlight rabbit hole… I want Fox bad lol
Spurs did their trade in the middle of the night to stop Nephew’s team from blowing it up. Mavs did it so their fans wouldn’t blow it up
Just say you were wrong and laugh. Not that serious.
Spurs now have even more pause, to my point earlier in thread, to consider cost and opportunity costs of Fox. Doesn’t mean you dont do it as I always said, but waiting has a very real upside too:
As I said MULTIPLE times if you could see forest for trees about what I was saying there’s ALWAYS guys that spring available. It’s why the stupid gotcha of “just name one!!” Is so dumb because we’ve seen multiple examples, even if not this extreme, of legit stars always on the market via trade or free agency etc..
Fox still a viable option but theres very real opportunity costs even if ST thinks they know better all the time
I agree. Here are some of the other summer 2026 names:
- Luka, Jaren Jackson, Fox, KD, Kyrie, Kristaps
- James, Harden, Butler, Middleton
Some of those guys are gonna get disgruntled and force trades.
It's not serious, it's just that this is an unprecedented outlier that can't even compare to anything we've ever seen on the market.
The reality is that Wemby is already a top5 player in the league and current awful roster is a huge disservice to him.
Fox checks most boxes and noone is saying Spurs should blow the load on him, we don't want Castle to be traded and we'd like to keep at least one ATL pick.
There's always a fine line between hoarding assets and being left with your in your hand.
LAL '27 FRP looked like one of the best assets in the league, Jazz has it. All of a sudden it's almost worthless.
We don't want to trade those 20131 picks other than SAC's own, it's pretty much down to what you value more.
Fox or a low chance of drafting a player better than him with those Hawks picks.
They're a young team with some good players, East is garbage and odds to land a top5 won't be better than 25-30% at the most.
Then even if we do get that pick, what are the odds of drafting a legit all-star with it?
Amazing how all these one in a million outliers keep happening though?!
Dallas should have gotten more right? The fact they didnt might signal something. Might signal theres very real risk involved Luka is NOT a lock to sign an immediate extension and LA is worried about losing Luka to free agency (Spurs with Wemby)?
If that is the case then LA says we cant gut all of our assets even for Luka if we dont know if he even wants to be here and we dont have a Supermax we can offer him either. So can Spurs afford to punt this opportunity for Fox or overpay for Fox knowing this exists now more than before? May still be small odds ultimately, but its better odds than before now and just another factor SA has to consider here.
Plenty of odds and as I said the picks aren’t just about drafting, but having full stock available for future trades or better stars who fit better etc…But again, IM not out on Fox at all; i never was. I simply pointed out the very real reality of why these things are not no brainers even though Fox is great and “for sure” available (bird in hand theory). Thats all justifiable but calling people idiots for saying “there’s more to the story here” is where you should pause and reflect especially when stuff like this happens no?
Cringe. They don’t keep happening. This is the only time a top 5 player (one that most here would deem “worthy” of all our trade assets because of their ridiculously high standards) got traded since… Kawhi? And both of these have something in common: very unique trade cir stances, both with an endgame of getting to LA.
Anyways, Im not here for points or to dunk on anyone. You made fair points on your own which I always acknowledged you just got too caught up in hubris to listen to what I was trying to say. All good, it happens and we move past it and talk about the very exiting reality we have in front of us for Spurs.
This Luka trade is shocking, I hate the Lakers and cant believe they get people calling them an offering them MVP young players for so far below market value and it does add some stress to SA decision here but ultimately should help SA with Fox situation and cost.
Have to see what the else happens now post Luka because this caught everyone off guard big time
If this is some type of 4-d chess to screw the Lakers... WOW.
What does Denver's cap space look like?
Oh hey, it’s another cringe a**hole poster that was wrong and instead of just saying “whoops! This is crazy lol” feels the need to justify being….wrong. Classic Dejounte
All these? Which trades would you put in this category?
If they shipped him to the Grizzlies or something I would maybe bite on that he's not staying scenario.Dallas should have gotten more right? The fact they didnt might signal something. Might signal theres very real risk involved Luka is NOT a lock to sign an immediate extension and LA is worried about losing Luka to free agency (Spurs with Wemby)?
If that is the case then LA says we cant gut all of our assets even for Luka if we dont know if he even wants to be here and we dont have a Supermax we can offer him either. So can Spurs afford to punt this opportunity for Fox or overpay for Fox knowing this exists now more than before? May still be small odds ultimately, but its better odds than before now and just another factor SA has to consider here.
Fox is 27. Almost every team in the league would like to have him, it's just that most don't have the assets or Fox doesn't want to go there.
If Luka becomes available and Spurs have Fox, Lakers would gladly accept such a good player in return for someone who won't stay with them.
The thing is that our stock isn't going to last.
The only actual pick and not a swap we have down the line is the Minnesota pick.
Atlanta and Chicago picks will be gone soon, our distant future stock isn't anywhere near to what OKC or even Jazz have.
It's all about figuring out how to get the best possible return from these Hawks picks.
And yeah, I'm a bird in hand kind of guy is the bird is priced right.
We have our franchise cornerstone, we don't have to take low-odds swings anymore. At least if you ask me.
Somewhat unrelated, but while I would've surely taken Luka even for a massive haul, he's not really a Spurs kind of player, is he?
And doesn't look like someone who would accept not being the main character on the team during his prime.
Lmaoooooo Luka did NOT have any endgame of getting to LA. And Luka was just one (one in which you said was “impossible”). There are other stars to monitor as well and regarding Fox level players theres a lot more that move around all the time.
Stop lying. Stop moving goalposts. Just stop being such an (wrong) know it all a**hole?
Kawhi was from there. What's Luka's motivation for wanting to be a Laker? Seriously the math ain't mathing.
Im not sure on last part. Sort of agree especially since the team that had him just decided to say “F OFF”. Pretty big red flag, but even then he’s probably worth risk because of his talent right? Same sort of argument to a degree of getting Fox and then if something else happens you can use Fox to recoup value etc…
It’s a crazy situation but now it’s not about just Luka. Is Ant Man now must watch with how MINNY is so shaky? If BOS flounders some does Jaylen Brown ask out or get moved? This just sort of threw into light all the possibilities and risks of going all in for guys like Fox IMO (again, I know you aren’t saying give up 8 firsts for him) because the fringe all star types like him are available more often and theres enough uneasiness now with Luka deal that the other true mega stars that were on watch list seemingly went up in odds to be moved
If you think this could have happened with any other city, I have some to sell you. Name the other stars, head.
Im sure Dallas, if they called another team, called Spurs and asked for Wemby which SA is right to say no. Im sure SA would have offered every other player and pick but Dallas seemed bent on a win now guy for whatever reason.
But nothing Ive seen suggest Luka asked out and wanted La so that has to factor into calculation (even if it would seem likely Luka signs an extension in LA). But LA front office has mostly sucked right? They didnt build a great team around Bron most years and were not looking great this year either. Crazy situation to see what happens there.
You are wrong and angry. Worst type of human on the planet tbh…just move on and admit you were wrong. It’s not hard to do unless your ego is bigger than your basketball IQ (
Imagine being so wrong and then publicly lying saying Luka forced his way to Lakers lolololol
and rigged move, but beautiful timing for us. Especially given the reports of the Spurs & Kings engaging in serious talks over the week.
Any deal now is going to be overshadowed by this news, and the market is bound to be in a shocked state. Perfect time to take advantage and pull a good trade.
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