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    He's getting the max.
    Sure, they'll offer it, but if he wants to go elsewhere he has the leverage to get Memphis to take a S&T offer for him instead of losing him for nothing. He may love Memphis or he may want a change of scenery playing alongside a generational talent.

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    Sure, they'll offer it, but if he wants to go elsewhere he has the leverage to get Memphis to take a S&T offer for him instead of losing him for nothing. He may love Memphis or he may want a change of scenery playing alongside a generational talent.
    I would buckets if JJJ became a spur, I just don't see it happening

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    I'm with @DPG21920 here. We should bet on the Timberwolves calling us in the middle of the night to trade Ant Man for Keldon Johnson and Minnesota's 20131 pick

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    Wow, page 100, but Luka trade has probably put the whole NBA trade market on hold.

    Is anyone contesting Luka's trade to the Lakers? Is it even possible to do so? I remember Pop kicking up a fuss about the Pau Gasol trade, but not sure if other teams/GMs officially complained back then too. I know Anthony Davis is a darn good player, but this trade feels very similar and I'm sure it's ruffled feathers league wide.

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    I would buckets if JJJ became a spur, I just don't see it happening
    Sure...but it's not just us who'll want him. He'll have the option of any team in the league. Do we really think he loves Memphis more than every other team? I don't. I also don't think he'll necessarily come here, but familial relationships and the opportunity to play with Wemby gives us as good of a shot as anybody.

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    He's getting the max.
    we can offer him the max too, so it's his choice. His dad was a Spur after all.

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    I'm with @DPG21920 here. We should bet on the Timberwolves calling us in the middle of the night to trade Ant Man for Keldon Johnson and Minnesota's 20131 pick
    We can't let Keldon and that pick go... they'll have to choose one or the other.


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    we can offer him the max too, so it's his choice. His dad was a Spur after all.
    If we do land JJJ, make sure he gets his dad's jersey number.

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    Spurs now have even more pause, to my point earlier in thread, to consider cost and opportunity costs of Fox. Doesn’t mean you dont do it as I always said, but waiting has a very real upside too:



    As I said MULTIPLE times if you could see forest for trees about what I was saying there’s ALWAYS guys that spring available. It’s why the stupid gotcha of “just name one!!” Is so dumb because we’ve seen multiple examples, even if not this extreme, of legit stars always on the market via trade or free agency etc..

    Fox still a viable option but theres very real opportunity costs even if ST thinks they know better all the time
    In thinking about it, I think that this makes it even less likely that Luka becomes a FA in 2026. He just lost the SuperMax, is he now also willing to lose a Bird Max and LA endorsement money too? I think he'll sign a shorter extension this summer so he can get to the 10-year max in 2028.

    BUT WITH THAT SAID...

    Even if Luka can be a FA in 2026... the Spurs could trade for Fox and give him a max, and still be able to sign Luka in 2026 if we also got off Vassell, Keldon and Sochan.

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    Plenty of odds and as I said the picks aren’t just about drafting, but having full stock available for future trades or better stars who fit better etc…But again, IM not out on Fox at all; i never was. I simply pointed out the very real reality of why these things are not no brainers even though Fox is great and “for sure” available (bird in hand theory). Thats all justifiable but calling people idiots for saying “there’s more to the story here” is where you should pause and reflect especially when stuff like this happens no?
    One thing I'm thinking this outlier event actually makes me think is that you can't just ONLY have a stockpile of picks to be able to pounce on opportunities like this. Lakers and this other mystery teams got calls from Nico Harrison because Nico wanted a player, not picks. Right now, the Spurs only on-the-court asset that would have got this done is Wemby, and obviously we don't want to trade him. Having someone like Fox (or Trae, or Lauri, or whomever) could actually be helpful when these opportunities come around.

    In some regards, while I'm not mad about not having Dillingham, having Dillingham might actually be more helpful in a Fox trade than having some of the picks if SAC wants a "promising young player".

    I think if anything, this trade just illustrates that picks aren't the end-all-be-all currency that every team wants.

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    trust me the Celtics will call us randomly around midnight near the 2028 trade deadline and offer us Jaylen Brown for them leftover picks.

    Brad Stevens: "We have won enough, it's ok to let someone else have a turn."

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    Well done on 100 pages boys. Now I can stop multi-posting random thoughts just to get the page count up

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    In thinking about it, I think that this makes it even less likely that Luka becomes a FA in 2026. He just lost the SuperMax, is he now also willing to lose a Bird Max and LA endorsement money too? I think he'll sign a shorter extension this summer so he can get to the 10-year max in 2028.

    BUT WITH THAT SAID...

    Even if Luka can be a FA in 2026... the Spurs could trade for Fox and give him a max, and still be able to sign Luka in 2026 if we also got off Vassell, Keldon and Sochan.
    Yup. Thats why I said it’s not just Fox or not Fox. Can still do Fox and maybe Luka. But taking on Fox means cap space may be not as clean for the opportunity. It may mean giving up more assets than we hoped and impacting our ability to entice a sign and trade. All I ever said was its a factor to consider and that its reality and reasonable.

    But ya, I can see Luka maybe passing up a deal despite losing supermax now. He may care about state income tax and how that makes up for some of lost money. He may want to team up with wemby and stick it to mavs rest of his career alongside Wemby being his best shot at a le.

    I can see many reasons why it’s plausible even if it’s not a guarantee. It’s a pretty big variable I think that SA has to very much consider is all.

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    Yup. Thats why I said it’s not just Fox or not Fox. Can still do Fox and maybe Luka. But taking on Fox means cap space may be not as clean for the opportunity. It may mean giving up more assets than we hoped and impacting our ability to entice a sign and trade. All I ever said was its a factor to consider and that its reality and reasonable.

    But ya, I can see Luka maybe passing up a deal despite losing supermax now. He may care about state income tax and how that makes up for some of lost money. He may want to team up with wemby and stick it to mavs rest of his career alongside Wemby being his best shot at a le.

    I can see many reasons why it’s plausible even if it’s not a guarantee. It’s a pretty big variable I think that SA has to very much consider is all.
    If Luka is getting fat in Dallas I can't imagine it would take long for him to appear on my 600lb life if he came to SA

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    One thing I'm thinking this outlier event actually makes me think is that you can't just ONLY have a stockpile of picks to be able to pounce on opportunities like this. Lakers and this other mystery teams got calls from Nico Harrison because Nico wanted a player, not picks. Right now, the Spurs only on-the-court asset that would have got this done is Wemby, and obviously we don't want to trade him. Having someone like Fox (or Trae, or Lauri, or whomever) could actually be helpful when these opportunities come around.

    In some regards, while I'm not mad about not having Dillingham, having Dillingham might actually be more helpful in a Fox trade than having some of the picks if SAC wants a "promising young player".

    I think if anything, this trade just illustrates that picks aren't the end-all-be-all currency that every team wants.
    I think the key here is that theres always someone available. Always. Maybe not always a Luka, but always a Fox type (fringe all star). But that when you are sniffing around and theres guys like Luka and Ant Man that are perfect fits and have situations where its not 100% locked that they are staying put you need to have a plan in place.

    Picks have dominated every trade for a star other than Luka. KD, Mitc , etc…picks even after this Luka trade are clearly valuable

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    If Luka is getting fat in Dallas I can't imagine it would take long for him to appear on my 600lb life if he came to SA
    Lmao

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    Well done on 100 pages boys. Now I can stop multi-posting random thoughts just to get the page count up
    We did it! If only timvp was around to see it.

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    Kings get:
    Jimmy Butler
    Jeremy Sochan
    SAS 2025 1RP
    SAS 2027 1RP (via ATL)

    Spurs get:
    De’Aaron Fox
    Chris Boucher
    Trey Lyles

    Heat get:
    Jakob Poeltl
    Chris Paul
    Kevin Huerter
    SAS 2027 1RP swap

    Raptors get:
    Devin Vassell
    Jaime Jaquez Jr.

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    Sounds plausible if Pat Riley is senile now

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    We did it! If only timvp was around to see it.
    Too soon.


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    If Luka is getting fat in Dallas I can't imagine it would take long for him to appear on my 600lb life if he came to SA
    I don't think even Wemby would be enough to convince Luka to leave LA for San Antonio tbh.

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    I think the key here is that theres always someone available. Always. Maybe not always a Luka, but always a Fox type (fringe all star). But that when you are sniffing around and theres guys like Luka and Ant Man that are perfect fits and have situations where its not 100% locked that they are staying put you need to have a plan in place.

    Picks have dominated every trade for a star other than Luka. KD, Mitc , etc…picks even after this Luka trade are clearly valuable
    I did not say that picks are not valuable, I said they are not the only currency.

    Having all the picks in the world still didn't even give you an opportunity to sniff a Luka trade, for example. Some teams don't want picks. To truly be able to be able to capitalize on any opportunity, the Spurs should look to have a blend of picks, quality players, and promising young players. Then you'll truly have the flexibility to do anything in regards to trades. Cap space and picks only opens up a certain range of possibilities.

    In that regard (like say you wanted to go after Ant), having someone like Fox could be quite helpful.

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    timvp passed away?

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    timvp passed away?
    Dead as a doornail..

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    Kings get:
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    Jeremy Sochan
    SAS 2025 1RP
    SAS 2027 1RP (via ATL)

    Spurs get:
    De’Aaron Fox
    Chris Boucher
    Trey Lyles

    Heat get:
    Jakob Poeltl
    Chris Paul
    Kevin Huerter
    SAS 2027 1RP swap

    Raptors get:
    Devin Vassell
    Jaime Jaquez Jr.


    Lyles and Boucher?!?

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