Lakers acquiring Luca for AD

[SpursBills]

Like trading Wembanyama for Jalen Brunson in a couple years citing Wemby’s ‘inability to put on muscle, making him more susceptible to injury from the physicality of post play’

[MannyIsGod]

No, I'm acting like it doesn't have a zero-percent success rate.

No, that's not what you did. You made assertions about WHY they traded him that are detached from reality and rely on you assuming a whole of a lot in order to make it a plausible narrative so that you could be critical of people who want the Spurs to make a more active approach to building a team around Wemby. You implied that this was an inevitable outcome that you saw coming a year ago which is just bull man.

I definitely agree there is a chance this is a good move but the likelihood of that outcome is so much smaller than the likelyhood that this is a bad move. Having a non zero chance a move works out doesn't make that move good in any shape or way so why is that a relevant point here? How many times has trading a top 3 25 year old player been the best move for a team to take? Never and definitely not for such a ty return.

Nah, I think you guys are having a tumor waved under your nose and are pretending you can't smell it.

But yes, I did firmly have this stance last year as well. Yes, all les are legitimate, and if Dallas would've won, they would've had every right to hang that banner. But running the table against a young team like OKC and a ty team like Minnesota (and an perpetually injured team like LAC) isn't exactly something that requires a legit contender. It's like how Rockets fans pat themselves on the back for almost winning a third game against the Warriors in 2019 while ignoring the West was basically decimated that year.

A top 3 player who is 25 in the NBA may have work ethic issues and may not be perfect, but that hast not stopped him from being a TOP 3 player in the NBA! Calling it an obvious tumor is ridiculous! There's nothin obvious about this which is why the sentiment is that this is this is the most shocking trade in NBA history. Dude, I know how you are but claiming this was obvious in any way is absolutely ridiculous even for you.

[SouthernFried]

Kyrie will work better with AD

[Chomag]

Well, I know it's not really a high bar but can we safely say that we don't have the most re ed FO in the league now?

That counts for something at least.

Brian Wright is saved!

[baseline bum]

Zollins + Tre Jones to CHI

[MannyIsGod]

Lebron can just resign last with his bird rights - can't he? He doesn't actually factor into this? And that's assuming he is even back. Lakers may be doing this not as a Lebron-Luka pairing, but a complete reset with Luka as their new centerpiece.

Sure, but that has to be before other cap moves becaue his cap hold is going to be absolutely huge. So they can't wait to resign him to open up more space.

But yeah, the latter point is my main point. I think this makes it harder for them to keep Lebron much longer.

[scott]

Sure, but that has to be before other cap moves becaue his cap hold is going to be absolutely huge. So they can't wait to resign him to open up more space.

But yeah, the latter point is my main point. I think this makes it harder for them to keep Lebron much longer.

My brother. We got the Fox. I no longer give 2 s about Dallas or the Lakers

[MannyIsGod]

It’s super ing weird. I’m not one to think there’s collusion, but this is so ing weird that it’s making we question things. Just utterly bizarre.

Yeah, I definitely believe they are just idiots rather than there was some NBA conspiracy to get him to the Lakers, but I can understand why people are thinking conspiracy to some extent because the trade is just so ing stupid and out of left field.

[spursistan]

I'd quit the NBA immediately if this happened tbh.

The absolutely kick that Mavs fans got yesterday is probably the worst I can remember in all of sports.

Imagine your GM and ownership group trading away your generational franchise player to a rival out of nowhere, getting an all time return, then trying to gaslight you that it's because he was a fat alcoholic

I follow soccer where stars movement between elite franchises/rivals happens more often and I genuinely can't remember an instance like this in the last 15-20 years (@ Brazil lefty DAF86 any cases ?). This like Barcelona swapping peak Messi for Real Madrid Benzema in 2012-13. Stuff that would probably cause a civil war/unrest in Spain/Catalonia

[DAF86]

I follow soccer where stars movement between elite franchises/rivals happens more often and I genuinely can't remember an instance like this in the last 15-20 years (@ Brazil lefty DAF86 any cases ?). This like Barcelona swapping peak Messi for Real Madrid Benzema in 2012-13. Stuff that would probably cause a civil war/unrest in Spain/Catalonia

In soccer there are no trades, just buys. One that comes to mind is Real Madrid buying Figo fresh off his Golden Ball win from Barcelona. Or PSG buying Neymar. Still it doesn't compare to this because the selling team has no say in the matter when there's a buyout clause.

[spurraider21]

It's hard to find similar trade scenarios. I'm trying to explain to my older sister who isn't involved anymore, I said imagine trading KD in 2012 for Dwight Howard. Still not as crazy as this.

if she follows football tell her it would be like the Bengals trading Jamarr Chase for Mike Evans and a 2nd

[OldMan88]

https://babylonbee.com/news/hungover...des-last-night

Hehe

[NASpurs]

[scott]

Been checking Cuban's twitter feed since this went down to see his reaction... hasn't tweeted since

[spursistan]

24 hours later and this still doesn't make sense. I understand you are not getting Wemby, Jokic, SGA Giannis.. But How the have they not put a call for guys like Banchero, Amen Thompson, Chet (+picks)?

[spurraider21]

24 hours later and this still doesn't make sense. I understand you are not getting Wemby, Jokic, SGA Giannis.. But How the have they not put a call for guys like Banchero, Amen Thompson, Chet (+picks)?

if they really insisted on a defensive anchor at least try Mobley lol

[DAF86]

24 hours later and this still doesn't make sense. I understand you are not getting Wemby, Jokic, SGA Giannis.. But How the have they not put a call for guys like Banchero, Amen Thompson, Chet (+picks)?

Man, I think I would have died from Vessels pops overdose if I were a Mavs fan. So ing re ed, it doesn't even compute.

Mavs could have literally gotten any player they wanted (aisde from maybe 4 or 5 guys) and a load of picks.

[Obstructed_View]

Wait until Luka gets on those steroids Lebron discovered in Miami. He will average a quad double.

[024]

I mean AD is a top 10 player in the league and the best 2 way big who is maybe only surpassed by Wemby. So it's not like the Mavs traded Luka for Kwame Brown or anything. But to voluntarily cut down your championship window by 6-7 years is definitely something. Especially relying on an injury prone big who can rapidly decline after a couple years. Not to mention Kyrie and Thompson possibly looking to jump ship. The Adelsons really destroyed the Mavs for the fanbase so they can add the tens of millions in luxury tax money to their billions.

[SouthernFried]

Dallas won this trade, IMHO.

Not enough ball for Luca and Lebron to play together.

AD doesn't have to play the 5 now all the time. Kyrie can become full time PG and not have to compete for ball handling with Luca. Kyrie is going to explode. KD can become full Time 4th not always having to guard Centers. His playing is going to get better and he will get more rest.

Dallas won this one. Perfect fit.

[tbdog]

Dallas won this trade, IMHO.

Not enough ball for Luca and Lebron to play together.

AD doesn't have to play the 5 now all the time. Kyrie can become full time PG and not have to compete for ball handling with Luca. Kyrie is going to explode. KD can become full Time 4th not always having to guard Centers. His playing is going to get better and he will get more rest.

Dallas won this one. Perfect fit.

If AD was 25 years, maybe. But I still wouldn't do it. Luka has a chance at being the best pg in nba history. Dallas may never have a better player while I'm still alive.

[baseline bum]

Dallas won this trade, IMHO.

Not enough ball for Luca and Lebron to play together.

AD doesn't have to play the 5 now all the time. Kyrie can become full time PG and not have to compete for ball handling with Luca. Kyrie is going to explode. KD can become full Time 4th not always having to guard Centers. His playing is going to get better and he will get more rest.

Dallas won this one. Perfect fit.

Dallas doesn't control any of their firsts 2027 through 2030, which wouldn't have been a big deal with Luka there leading them to picks in the mid 20s so that no one would use those swaps they got from Dallas. But with Davis nearing the end of his prime those trades are really gonna hurt, especially 2029 where they owe the Rockets either their unprotected first or an unprotected swap and 2030 when they owe the Spurs an unprotected swap. Charlotte gets their 27 (top 2 protected) while OKC gets their 28 swap unprotected.

Dallas should have at least gotten two first plus Reaves in addition to Davis to gift the Lakers Doncic. Guys who can carry a team to the Finals in a brutal west aren't easy to come by.

[Obstructed_View]

Saw the press conference. Jason Kidd looks like he got mugged in the middle of the night. This GM of the Mavs will work for the Lakers in two years. Whoever signed off on this trade from ownership is not a basketball person.

The Dallas Mavericks got looted.

[Obstructed_View]

If AD was 25 years, maybe. But I still wouldn't do it. Luka has a chance at being the best pg in nba history. Dallas may never have a better player while I'm still alive.

A better player may not exist on this planet.

[vy65]