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    If we're real-talking, I'm still worried this trade starts the slipstream of the team dumping its first trying to chase a le that isn't ready to be chased. However, I had a list of like 3-5 players I thought would make sense for a win-now move. Durant was on that list. You trade for Durant trying to win a le over the next couple of years. That's worth rotation players. It wouldn't be worth the Spurs adding a bunch of unprotected picks though.
    i dont think i disagree all that much with you on the general state of the spurs

    this isnt a championship level cast. and wemby isnt good enough yet to elevate them to that level. its clear wemby still has many improvements to make... but despite him still just kinda being the cloverfield monster aimlessly rampaging about at times, the net effect is he's still a borderline top 5 player and mvp caliber guy this year. he may be years away from his peak, but im not sure he is years away from being "best player of championship team" level guy.

    does this fox move alone get us there either for this year or next? i dont think so for this year. next year though? its possible. vassell still has room for improvement. and if it doesnt work out, i dont think fox will be dead weight, and can be moved to salvage some value the way the hawks did with dejounte.

    i dont think we are a Cam Johnson away. i wouldnt be in favor of parting with 1.5 firsts to get him. i think fox was a of an add (especially given what we gave up), and im cool with waiting and seeing how things look before making more swings. if they want to get a valanciunas for a second or two, thats fine though.

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    Valanciunuas would be my next target.

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    I still wonder how different the Spurs would look if they were able to snag Monk in free agency. He's been very good lately, and he would've fit the rotation very well.
    he was far and away my #1 free agency target last year. him re-signing with sacto was always a possibility... but him re-signing before free agency openend up for below market rate was not something i thought was a reasonable possibility

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    I still wonder how different the Spurs would look if they were able to snag Monk in free agency. He's been very good lately, and he would've fit the rotation very well.
    If you like Monk (which I also do), ***and if we were send CP3 and Vassell off in other moves either now or in the summer** I wonder if we could go back to CHI and inquire about Coby White. He's very similar to that Malik Monk combo-guard mold (and their career DARKO progressions have been eerily similar). White is a better shooter, but Monk is a decent defender whereas White is a sieve. I think a Fox/Castle/White 3-man rotation would be interesting, but there is no use for him with CP3 and Vassell on the roster.

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    I too think if we can just get Big Daddy and play out the rest of the year, that would be good work. We can sort out the Vassell/Keldon/Champ/Barnes/Sochan jumble in the offseason after we see what they do with a heck of a lot of pressure being relieved off of them by adding Fox.

    We're going to have a Top 10 pick this year as well, barring a crazy turnaround by ATL, which is freakin' insane to even think about. I wouldn't want to do something like burn assets on Cam and lock ourselves down a path that gives us second thoughts if that draft pick yields some juicy opportunities.

    Get Jonas (or someone else, I've always been a fan of Steven Adams as well) and see how this plays out and then complete the immediate rebuild this summer.

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    Actually... just checked and we don't actually have a clean and easy way to get Jonas. Tre Jones was the way to do it, but he's gone. We could do Blake + Bran + SRPs, I'd imagine we'd have to include some cash so that WAS could eat some dead cap.

    Jonas + Kispert for Keldon or Barnes also works. I wouldn't do Barnes personally.

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    Actually... just checked and we don't actually have a clean and easy way to get Jonas. Tre Jones was the way to do it, but he's gone. We could do Blake + Bran + SRPs, I'd imagine we'd have to include some cash so that WAS could eat some dead cap.

    Jonas + Kispert for Keldon or Barnes also works. I wouldn't do Barnes personally.
    ah, hadnt considered that

    wright ed up again tbh

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    I am not sure what’s the Spurs plan from here but offer Devin Vassell for Cam Johnson.

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    Valanciunuas would be my next target.
    I mean they already have big men that can’t defend the rim

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    Also, the buyout market may produce a center.

    We’ll see.

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    Can the spurs get a solid 3 and d player for keldon Johnson?

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    Feeling frisky since you never know what NBA GMs will accept anymore... this one dedicated to my friend Chinook on this, the glorious day of his return.


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    Also, the buyout market may produce a center.

    We’ll see.
    Whoever he is, he will go to the lakers…

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    Whatabout takin a look at Mo Bamba? Hes Just been released and shoiuld be a free agent...minimum risk and possible Just what the doctor ordered 4 priotecting the ring in the non Wemby minutes...

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    i dont think i disagree all that much with you on the general state of the spurs

    this isnt a championship level cast. and wemby isnt good enough yet to elevate them to that level. its clear wemby still has many improvements to make... but despite him still just kinda being the cloverfield monster aimlessly rampaging about at times, the net effect is he's still a borderline top 5 player and mvp caliber guy this year. he may be years away from his peak, but im not sure he is years away from being "best player of championship team" level guy.

    does this fox move alone get us there either for this year or next? i dont think so for this year. next year though? its possible. vassell still has room for improvement. and if it doesnt work out, i dont think fox will be dead weight, and can be moved to salvage some value the way the hawks did with dejounte.

    i dont think we are a Cam Johnson away. i wouldnt be in favor of parting with 1.5 firsts to get him. i think fox was a of an add (especially given what we gave up), and im cool with waiting and seeing how things look before making more swings. if they want to get a valanciunas for a second or two, thats fine though.
    This guy knows what he is talking about.

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    can we snatch Day'Ron Sharpe from the Nets? Earns only 4 million per year and is a restricted free agent after this season. Would be a nice addition, could just ship out Branham and a bunch of second round picks to get him.

    Daniel Theis from the Pels would be another option.

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    can we snatch Day'Ron Sharpe from the Nets? Earns only 4 million per year and is a restricted free agent after this season. Would be a nice addition, could just ship out Branham and a bunch of second round picks to get him.

    Daniel Theis from the Pels would be another option.
    Apparently a lot of teams are interested in him, idk what would be the asking price, Nets obviously can't ask for a FRP.
    Branham or Wesley and SRPs makes sense.
    Theis is washed and not worth it.

    No point for trading for a wing now and overpaying, that should be this summer's priority, depending on how the draft goes.
    But we absolutely must get a backup big if we're to win 35+ games.

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    Apparently a lot of teams are interested in him, idk what would be the asking price, Nets obviously can't ask for a FRP.
    Branham or Wesley and SRPs makes sense.
    Theis is washed and not worth it.

    No point for trading for a wing now and overpaying, that should be this summer's priority, depending on how the draft goes.
    But we absolutely must get a backup big if we're to win 35+ games.
    we definitely have to look at back up bigs making under 5 million per year. We can't trade 3-4 players for a Valanciunas at this point. Or maybe we get somebody off the buyout market, since we have an open roster spot now. Just not sure which bigs would get waived or bought out.

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    we definitely have to look at back up bigs making under 5 million per year. We can't trade 3-4 players for a Valanciunas at this point. Or maybe we get somebody off the buyout market, since we have an open roster spot now. Just not sure which bigs would get waived or bought out.
    Not many names who could be solid enough are available in that salary range.
    Tillman, idk what would the Celtics want, I'm sure they can use a SRP or two.
    Sharpe
    Eubanks, lmao.

    Can't see anyone else making less than $5M who would actually be a positive contributor.

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    Not many names who could be solid enough are available in that salary range.
    Tillman, idk what would the Celtics want, I'm sure they can use a SRP or two.
    Sharpe
    Eubanks, lmao.

    Can't see anyone else making less than $5M who would actually be a positive contributor.
    time for another Popovich "let's turn a G-League player into an NBA rotation player" project

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    I don't think, that we should worry too much about this seasons roster. Depending on if Fox will play or just take care of his hand and whatever they promised CP3, keep CP or let him walk. Regarding the bigs just test some prospect and show some love for Mamu.

    I don't care howwe finish this year. If we can get some extra percentages to move into the top4 or even get Flagg, take those few weeks and just see what you got. Starting this summer the tanking is stopping anyway.

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    Can the spurs get a solid 3 and d player for keldon Johnson?
    Yep, Keldon is fitting less and less with the team. Spurs need defense and shooting to complement their main players and these are his main weaknesses.

    I'm not sure what is Keldon's trade value. He is young locked with a quite friendly contract but he has gone from 22pgg to 12 ppg in 2 seasons. If Spurs can get something positive for him, they shouldn't hesitate.

    Spurs also don't need to force a trade. If there isn't a good opportunity, they can stand pat and wait this offseason.

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    Valanciunuas would be my next target.
    Can't imagine Valanciunas crossing half court with the pace they are playing with lately and even more now with Fox.

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    I don't think, that we should worry too much about this seasons roster. Depending on if Fox will play or just take care of his hand and whatever they promised CP3, keep CP or let him walk. Regarding the bigs just test some prospect and show some love for Mamu.

    I don't care howwe finish this year. If we can get some extra percentages to move into the top4 or even get Flagg, take those few weeks and just see what you got. Starting this summer the tanking is stopping anyway.
    +1. I’m a proponent of seeing what we’ve got and integrating. I’m fascinated to see immediate next steps with CP3 playing time vs Fox, with his hand injury as an interesting factor.

    See where the draft picks land and then use all assets to sharpen the blade before next season.

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    Who would you add to the current lineup ? Is it better to trade or wait until the draft ?

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