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    I didn't ask him. I asked you.

    Do you want Elon to have your Treasury information on some store bought server?

    It's a simple yes or no question.
    Is that what's happening? From where did OPM buy their current servers?

    Could it be DOGE is simply trying to gain access to OPM data in order to audit their efficiency and OPM staff is being a big obstacle?

    I vote the latter.

    If you're asking me whether or not I trust Elon Musk and DOGE, over Biden holdovers, the answer is yes. So, I'll just repeat Whitlock, "Nobody elected the staff that operated Joe Biden like an animatronic puppet for the last 4 years while he wrecked the country so I'm not sure the 'nobody elected Elon' criticism really has legs."

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    Is that what's happening? From where did OPM buy their current servers?

    Could it be DOGE is simply trying to gain access to OPM data in order to audit their efficiency and OPM staff is being a big obstacle?

    I vote the latter.

    If you're asking me whether or not I trust Elon Musk and DOGE, over Biden holdovers, the answer is yes. So, I'll just repeat Whitlock, "Nobody elected the staff that operated Joe Biden like an animatronic puppet for the last 4 years while he wrecked the country so I'm not sure the 'nobody elected Elon' criticism really has legs."
    that's a lot of words.

    None of them answers the question.

    Just say you want Elon to have all your information without reservation.

    You trust him with all your information.

    I'll believe you.

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    that's a lot of words.

    None of them answers the question.
    The question doesn't have any foundation. From which store did DOGE purchase said server? Where is it being secured? I simply reject the premise of your question.

    If you're asking if I want DOGE to have access to employee information so that it can perform the function with which they've been tasked; the answer is an emphatic yes.

    Just like I want DOGE to have access to the Treasury files to see if that functionary who quit (instead of taking retirement) was really just rubber-stamping all payouts, 100% of them, regardless of the recipients.

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    The question doesn't have any foundation. From which store did DOGE purchase said server? Where is it being secured? I simply reject the premise of your question.

    If you're asking if I want DOGE to have access to employee information so that it can perform the function with which they've been tasked; the answer is an emphatic yes.

    Just like I want DOGE to have access to the Treasury files to see if that functionary who quit (instead of taking retirement) was really just rubber-stamping all payouts, 100% of them, regardless of the recipients.
    That wasn't the question.

    You want Musk to have your Treasury information. You made that clear.

    Why do you want Musk to yave your Treasury information.?

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    if I understand American politics correctly, progressivism is something that requires 60 senate votes to work, while national conservatism doesn’t require any votes at all

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    It is not Treasury's job to decide whom to pay.

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    from an EEOC administrative judge



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    It really is that simple. If Biden had announced he appointed Selena Gomez to shut down ICE, nobody would doubt that's illegal and uncons utional.Appointing Musk to shut down USAID is no different.

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    Nathan Tankus doesn't think Elon knows what he's doing

    I think the operational risks, they’re so multi-varied, even trying to come up with an answer of how many, it’s like where do you start. Maybe the first is introducing non-native technology. Technology goes through a rigorous process to be used by the federal government, it’s checked for various safety issues. How many more years did people like Obama use Blackberries when everyone, including CEOs, were using iPhones? There’s a very rigorous process for making technology safe and secure. Obviously none of that process is happening. The organization responsible for doing that [the U.S. Digital Service] has been gutted and turned into a meme.


    As I discuss in the piece, there are systems that are run in parallel between and older and newer versions to make sure the same answers are coming out. We’re talking about systems where for years, both systems have been putting out correct data but not shutting down one because of edge cases where the data could be different. Only after years of work, they’ll shut down the older system. When you’re running old and new systems in tandem, you’re incurring both costs. My central terror, although there are a million ones you can pick, is that based on Musk’s history, the redundancies which are the premise of mission-critical IT systems, the premise that this must never fail, he’s going to look at it and say look at this inefficiency. A mission-critical system has to be inefficient because that’s how you make sure it functions all the time. The difference between 97 percent and 100 percent functioning is crucial. It may be inefficiency, but it means making sure that 88 percent of the federal government’s payments are going out all the time reliably.
    https://prospect.org/economy/2025-02...ury-tankus-qa/

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    So we heard about how Musk’s people got access to the payment system, and then later reporting included unnamed sources saying that they only have read-only access at the moment. What do you think they’re up to? What could be done with read-only access?
    I won’t speculate about all the things you can do with read-only access. The basic fundamental issue is, you read the code in order to understand it and make changes to the code. Why else are you looking at code except for proposing changes? The top civil service professional, a man who was just named acting Treasury secretary for a while, and technically appointed by Trump for that position, said that this is too serious for me to be willing to accept, and was put on paid administrative leave and then “made the decision” to retire but really was forced out.

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    The slow-motion trench warfare is happening and they have had successes on that front, like with USAID. What happens when they get an agency to bend to their will and control an agency, they could shut off payments at that source. With legacy IT systems, it’s impossible that they’ve gained any capabilities at least yet. Even if people are putatively complying with DOGE and that, they are not eager to say the least for this stuff to happen. I don’t think worrying about individual payments is on the track for the near future.


    That being said, they can potentially be at the point, depending on how much more authority they get at the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, to cut off the payments of an agency. If an agency is resisting, on an unclear timeline, they may be able to suffocate one agency’s payments. And if there’s even one day payments are not going out, it can be catastrophic. As we saw last week with the freeze at OMB.

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    If you told me now that the issue would be using the debt ceiling to justify spending cuts, I would breathe such a sigh of relief. That is just a normal five-alarm fire cons utional crisis. Where I’m at right now, from the moment I read the Washington Post reporting on Friday to this moment, I have been filled with unmitigated terror. It’s a major motivation why I spent 20 continuous hours writing this piece. I am filled with terror, and not because of a cons utional crisis of using the debt ceiling to uncons utionally impound spending.

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    A complete meltdown of the Treasury payment system, that’s the worst-case scenario of the Social Security checks not going out. I’m also concerned whether they have the idea now or whether they are rooting around and it will occur to them in next however many days, to use the payment system as a trump card to whatever limited checks and balances that there are left.

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    He gave us his heart

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    He gave us his heart
    ...+ over 290 million smackers!

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    ...+ over 290 million smackers!
    a fairly inexpensive price tag for control of the system of payment of the richest country in the world, by the world's richest man
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    Wall Street Journal: China Looks to Musk as Conduit to Trump, Seeking to Ward Off Harsh Policies

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    Go Elon GO!

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    Go Elon GO!
    Why?

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    because cowardly Repugs won't get rid of it altogether

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    because they think they can

    speedrunning to dictatorship

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    because they think they can

    speedrunning to dictatorship
    whatever it takes

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    because cowardly Repugs won't get rid of it altogether
    Why do you want to get rid of it?

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    whatever it takes
    you're gonna be sorry you tried

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