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I say move him but if he stays then hopefully he realizes his role as the third option now. The dribble, dribble, dribble chuck days need to be over.
I like Bassey too, but Mitch doesn't seem high on him or he's too stubborn to go back to him.
I really think the issue is needing better balance, scoring options and pairing Bassey with off the bench. Barnes and Castle need to come off the bench with Bassey as the back up center instead of the current underwhelming, IMO, alignment.
I say move him but if he stays then hopefully he realizes his role as the third option now. The dribble, dribble, dribble chuck days need to be over.
I'm actually excited to see how Devin adapts to a new role. I do wonder if he'll be able to break out of his Kobe-ISO-I'm-Him approach to the game he seems to have. There is no longer a need for that nor is their room for it. I'm hoping he can adapt quickly and successfully. I want to be made stupid with this avatar... he hasn't done it yet. Now is your chance, YungDev0
Devin is definitely on the clock now. Here’s his chance to show he’s the 3rd guy we’ve all thought he caps out at.
Sochan would be the main victim if PATFO doesn't bring a big man
He gets embarrassed physically when he has to play center or vs big forwards
As much as I'm not a fan of the player, he hasn't been put in the best situations to shine, partly on his fault/limitations and partly on the lack of choices for Mitch.
I'd like to think, as someone said that PATFO closed this deal early enough to work on another one.
Bassey struggled so much at some point that Mitch had to bring back Collins and ultimately use Sochan as a center...
I like Bassey, he's good sometimes but he's not reliable enough to compensate when Wemby goes to the bench for us to have a shot at a decent run
Just realized those posts are in the wrong thread. My bad
Bassey is fine defensively. They take him out because of offense, which is why adding a really good offensive player helps with that. The problem is that with the second unit there is rarely anyone who get get to the basket and create their own shots. It's not Bassey on defense that's the issue at all. Bassey's defensive stats are excellent. He's just a victim of our offense.Bassey struggled so much at some point that Mitch had to bring back Collins and ultimately use Sochan as a center...
I like Bassey, he's good sometimes but he's not reliable enough to compensate when Wemby goes to the bench for us to have a shot at a decent run
Going back to the CBass avatar. Too much positivity and stuff to feel good about right now for the anti-Devin campaign.
C'mon Dev, I believe in you.
Agreed, I don't like Jeremy as the back up center at all. Give him his starting job back and slide Barnes to the back up PF. Also, add another center or bring in some guys on 10-day contracts for 'live auditions.'
Or just have some confidence in Bassey to figure things out, but it seems Mitch isn't up for that.
this guy sucks. wish we would have off loaded him in the Fox trade. He is so bad
Vassell playing so bad
if he were a 15-18pt scorer on decent efficiency. fine. But this dude sucks. on fire 1 game, disappears 3 games. wtf
bench his ass...Dude is almost collins bad recently.Coming to the point where hes hurting us being on the court.
The new starting lineup should be Fox Castle Champagnie Barnes & Wemby
Man, alotta teams play 2 bigs at a time ( I figure, long shots, long rebounds) but not mitch & it hurts!
Just bring it back.
Remember when this guy supposedly signed a "bargain extension"
It is not just his intangibles-less, low-IQ play, but what bothers me also is his Kobesque 'imma get mine, i got this' at ude like he is that good. baseline bum is right when he said that dude suffers from a case of main character syndrome. Honestly, he has that Richard Jefferson 2009-11 loser aura to him: style over substance, empty inefficient calories galore
I really hope this guy can at least be a spot up shooter with the looks Fox is going to create. If he doesn't become an elite three point shooter as a third option he's gotta ing go.
The front office is taking notes. For his sake, I hope Assell puts it together but no way do the Spurs need his loser tendencies dragging them down.
I am afraid he is one of those players who only thrives as the main guy on hard-tanking teams. Minimal ability to be plugged and played or do the dirty work ala Danny Green. Just want to 'get his points"-- efficiency, flow of offense be damned..
he seems to struggle when playing with castle, the plays aren't quite right
I don't typically like giving up on players too early, but this guy does not fit with this lineup anymore with Fox's arrival and his salary. If you're building around Fox and Wemby for the next 5 years while developing Castle, you've got 2 high usage guys who need to be surrounded by 2 low usage versatile defensive wings in addition to Castle. Castle's a "not quite wing" and honestly works best as the two guard who takes on more usage over time as he develops, even if his shooting is mediocre. He gives you passing, defense, foul drawing, and half court facilitation, and Vassell being the starting 2 guard neutralizes a ton of Castle's advantages and potentially takes touches away from Fox and Wemby. Sochan can sometimes be braindead, but he's still early in his development curve and can absolutely be a defense first low usage guy that provides value even when his shot isn't falling, and these are the types of players that typically are signed to reasonable contracts.
You hope that your players improve their shooting over time, especially as Fox starts generating more open shots. In the meantime, just live with a team that plays great defense and has spacing issues - yeah it's ugly basketball in the short term, but it gives you a better chance to win than whatever this is. I mean , look at Orlando, literally only 1 out their top 8 guys is shooting over 31% from 3, and yet they're a .500 team with half their team constantly injured and their star players missing extensive time. And there is nobody on that team that even comes close to Wemby. It's still a better proposition than devoting a ton of cap to a guy who might be hot or cold on any given day but is now basically a turnstile on defense with no awareness. Vassell right now doesn't give you defensive versatility, doesn't give you playmaking, doesn't give you size, rebounding, or rim pressure. You could argue before that he could get you a bucket in crunch time with his tough shot making, but you just literally traded for a former clutch player of the year to be that crunch time guy. So you're paying 30 million a year for an undersized wing who gives you 3s on some nights and a steady diet of midrange jumpers.
If you really want a sixth man microwave scorer, go out and get someone who can facilitate in addition to score. The league is going away from small guards, so high skilled undersized guards who can score are probably going to start going for cheaper than before. A guy like Collin Sexton is 10 million a year cheaper and a lot more reliable as a scorer while being a better facilitator. I'd take Payton Pritchard at 20 million a year over Vassell at 30 million as a 6th man. Unload Vassell in the summer if you can for a 1st rounder and go out and find yourself a Caruso, draft a couple well-rounded players with some size, and keep chugging away. It's better than handicapping yourself for the next 4 years of his contract due to poor roster construction.
Previous avatar comes back tomorrow. What a stinker.
I've show a few different cuts of similar stats before, but I got a curiosity and just looked this one up, NETRTG of 2Man combos... WOOF. There is not a single player in our Top 8 is who's on the court time is improved by having Devin on the court at the same time. Holy .
Without Dev With Dev Dev Without Both Off Wemby +9.97 -3.63 -16.37 -4.62 Cp3 +4.77 -0.38 -21.72 +2.64 Barnes +2.17 -2.86 -15.92 +6.43 Castle +3.60 -6.25 -11.15 +4.35 Sochan +0.06 -0.19 -14.81 +5.41 Keldon +0.68 -19.17 -0.54 +7.11 Champ +5.36 -12.21 -7.21 +0.74
I know I said and wanted to wait and see what everyone looked like with De'Aaron... but since the deadline is Thursday my patience with Devin might only extend exactly 1 game.
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