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    KD would probably retire if traded to Wizards

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    Dallas has traded Kyrie Irving to the Sixers for Caleb Martin


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    Dallas has traded Kyrie Irving to the Sixers for Caleb Martin

    What

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    Mavs going Leroy Jenkins for this post season

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    Personally would rather have Grimes than Martin tbh. Dallas GM is clearly not very smart

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    Personally would rather have Grimes than Martin tbh. Dallas GM is clearly not very smart
    The only reasoning would be that Grimes is a RFA and Martin is on a team-friendly deal, but it's a clear downgrade on the court.
    Mavs trying to build the worst offensive roster in the league. We should offer them Jeremy for PJ Washington.

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    What would it take to trade for Jonas Valanciunas?
    2 second round picks, Branham, Wesley and McLaughlin

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    Personally would rather have Grimes than Martin tbh. Dallas GM is clearly not very smart
    The guy who the Lakers GM got to take a lesser deal due to future injury concerns with Luka but trading you Mr. Glass

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    Are you worried at all about Vassell? He’s regressed this season to me. Theres been moments where hes doing the “other” things besides scoring (passing, defense etc.) that are encouraging but overall, it’s been a rough season. Maybe hes just not in rhythm after starting season injured but its been disappointing so far after a very solid season last season
    Yes, Vassell hasn't developed as expected.

    A little stat about Vassell:
    When he is shooting while having the ball for less than 2 seconds, his EFG% is 58%
    When it's more than 2 seconds, it's 45%.
    The frequency split between both scenarios is 50/50.

    I think it's time for Spurs to give up on the idea to make Vassell a complete and versatile offensive player. He should be pigeonholed into what he is the most efficient and play more off the ball. The good news is that this role will fit really well with Fox and Castle being more on the ball players.

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    I wonder if the KD-to-Wizards thing is built around the Wizards taking both KD and Beal in some multi-team trade in return for draft capital, then rerouting KD to get even more draft capital. That opens the door to get Jimmy to the Suns.

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    I wonder if the KD-to-Wizards thing is built around the Wizards taking both KD and Beal in some multi-team trade in return for draft capital, then rerouting KD to get even more draft capital. That opens the door to get Jimmy to the Suns.
    I think it's just because he's from DC.


    Since Mavs are on a full re roll, offer them Devin+FRP for Klay+PJ Washington.
    Who knows, they might just be dumb enough.
    Or even Devin+Jeremy instead of a FRP.

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    When he is shooting while having the ball for less than 2 seconds, his EFG% is 58%
    When it's more than 2 seconds, it's 45%.
    The frequency split between both scenarios is 50/50.
    Wow, night and day, but not surprising. I'd like to see him benched every time he pulls the dribble, dribble, dribble game if any of Wemby/Fox/CP3/Castle are on the court. Think that's the only way he can learn.
    Definitely the biggest disappointment of the season, regression across the board as a scorer.

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    I wonder if the KD-to-Wizards thing is built around the Wizards taking both KD and Beal in some multi-team trade in return for draft capital, then rerouting KD to get even more draft capital. That opens the door to get Jimmy to the Suns.
    I was wondering how it could even make sense, this would be a good scenario and give Beal and Wiz a homecoming and the opportunity to recoup some value as a tank commander in 25' and 26', and be a massive expiring in 27' maybe big counting stats.
    You've got me rooting for this, Beal to Wiz takes touches from Sarr and boosts Castle's ROY bid.

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    We basically need Dev to become the upgrade at the Champaigne position.

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    I wonder if the KD-to-Wizards thing is built around the Wizards taking both KD and Beal in some multi-team trade in return for draft capital, then rerouting KD to get even more draft capital. That opens the door to get Jimmy to the Suns.
    Why does Jimmy want to go to the Suns? I thought it was to play with KD? If not KD, is it Devin Booker that he wants to play with?

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    Why does Jimmy want to go to the Suns? I thought it was to play with KD? If not KD, is it Devin Booker that he wants to play with?
    Suns are the only team dumb enough to offer him a 3 year max, noone else is giving 36 year old Jimmy that kind of money.
    He's kind of ed now because Beal obviously won't waive his NTC clause and there's no way Heat would even want him.
    Jimmy can opt out in the summer and become a free agent, but noone is giving him anywhere near 150/3 he'd get from the Suns.

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    Yes, Vassell hasn't developed as expected.

    A little stat about Vassell:
    When he is shooting while having the ball for less than 2 seconds, his EFG% is 58%
    When it's more than 2 seconds, it's 45%.
    The frequency split between both scenarios is 50/50.

    I think it's time for Spurs to give up on the idea to make Vassell a complete and versatile offensive player. He should be pigeonholed into what he is the most efficient and play more off the ball. The good news is that this role will fit really well with Fox and Castle being more on the ball players.
    I think Devin on the ball was more of a development thing, not the overall plan. I agree that he should be more of an offball guard.

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    Why does Jimmy want to go to the Suns? I thought it was to play with KD? If not KD, is it Devin Booker that he wants to play with?
    Jimmy wants to get paid. Winning would be a nice bonus.

    Losing KD is the only way to get off of Beal's contract while keeping Booker.

    I don't think Ishbia's ego will allow him to tear things down any sooner than is absolutely necessary. I was just trying to come up with a possible reason that KD would get traded to the Wizards.

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    Yes, Vassell hasn't developed as expected.

    A little stat about Vassell:
    When he is shooting while having the ball for less than 2 seconds, his EFG% is 58%
    When it's more than 2 seconds, it's 45%.
    The frequency split between both scenarios is 50/50.

    I think it's time for Spurs to give up on the idea to make Vassell a complete and versatile offensive player. He should be pigeonholed into what he is the most efficient and play more off the ball. The good news is that this role will fit really well with Fox and Castle being more on the ball players.
    Definitely - should be ideal. It’s sink or swim time for him now with Fox/Wemby here. Theres going to be more changes and if guys are not playing well they will find themselves off the team

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    Yes, Vassell hasn't developed as expected.

    A little stat about Vassell:
    When he is shooting while having the ball for less than 2 seconds, his EFG% is 58%
    When it's more than 2 seconds, it's 45%.
    The frequency split between both scenarios is 50/50.

    I think it's time for Spurs to give up on the idea to make Vassell a complete and versatile offensive player. He should be pigeonholed into what he is the most efficient and play more off the ball. The good news is that this role will fit really well with Fox and Castle being more on the ball players.
    I'm glad someone else has noticed. I've been posting for awhile that Devin mostly gets into trouble when goes into KobeISO mode. There is really no reason for him to take more than 3 dribbles on most occasions. If he can become an off-ball guard, who makes quick decisive pass-or-shoot decisions, he might have a chance to turn his trajectory around. But right now, for the archetype he's trying to be, I'd rather have Cam Thomas than him (and that's not meant to be a compliment to Cam Thomas)

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    It's crazy how many guys who, about 1.5 years ago, were around Vassell's level, but were thought to be less desirable for one reason or another, that have left him in the dust. Reaves, Herro, Murphy III, immediately spring to mind.

    The failure of this season that has been obscured by Wembanyama's rise, Castle's intrigue and Paul's/Barnes' steadiness, is the lack of development otherwise. The rest have stagnated or regressed.

    Jimmy wants to get paid. Winning would be a nice bonus.

    Losing KD is the only way to get off of Beal's contract while keeping Booker.

    I don't think Ishbia's ego will allow him to tear things down any sooner than is absolutely necessary. I was just trying to come up with a possible reason that KD would get traded to the Wizards.
    I could say the same for the Warriors. If we presume, since it's usually how it works with players of his magnitude, that the Suns would only trade him to a destination he'd want, why would he leave one dead end situation for another, only where the co-star is 8 years older than his current one and he has a sordid history.

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    that means either CP3 or Keldon are on the move. We got 4 PGs on the roster currently. Word is Keldon was actually the one going out in the Fox trade, but it got changed up cause Dejounte tore his ACL and NOLA didn’t want to do the deal anymore.

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    Herb is out for the season, doesn't make sense to trade for him now.

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    Herb is out for the season, doesn't make sense to trade for him now.
    While I'd love to get someone who can help us with the play-in push, I can see how it could make sense to get Herb now if we're still keeping our 25 picks. You lock him up, give Fox just enough run to see what our guys look like with him, then shut him down for the rest of the season so he can have the surgery.

    You have Fox and Herb locked in and two lotto picks. That would be pretty solid work.

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