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Any chance we can get a pick or two on these kind of moves so we can use it to pay nets for Cam Johnson?
In the 3 team rumored trade between Heat/Suns/Wariors with KD and Butler, the main reason why Heat wouldn't want Wiggins is to keep their 2026 capspace.
Spurs could solve that with a trade like Barnes and Bassey for Wiggins.
Any chance we can get a pick or two on these kind of moves so we can use it to pay nets for Cam Johnson?
From this article, I wouldn't see where any extra picks would be able to be extracted to the Spurs, not that I'd want Spurs FO to give much for a Cam addition anyways. I could see however Spurs being an added destination if the teams didn't want to take on all the players being traded (eg Looney, etc)
Article states - There's reason to believe that an ultimate deal between the three sides could look something like this:
Miami Heat
Receive
Andrew Wiggins, Buddy Hield
Gary Payton II, Kevon Looney
2025 1st Round Pick (via PHO)
2025 2nd Round Pick (via GS)
Golden State Warriors
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Kevin Durant
Josh Richardson
Monte Morris
Phoenix Suns
Receive
Jimmy Butler
Alec Burks
2027 1st Round Pick (via GS)
why would the Spurs tie up their 2026 cap space though? The way the deals are structured, we should have enough cap space in 2026 to sign some nice FAs
Why would you move Bassey when that money could be made up with someone not in the rotation like Branham?
getting KD for 2 firsts is crazy work. The Suns could get a way better package from OKC, Houston, Memphis, etc.
Even for a player like KD the market is lukewarm I bet.
Well, it could be Barnes and whoever you want (Paul, Bassey, Mamu, Branham, Wesley).
That's the drawback of that trade. You upgrade from Barnes to Wiggins but you lost that 2026 cap space. At the end, it all depends on what FA Spurs could expect to sign in 2026.
The Suns go from KD to Butler and don't get any net firsts? They get one from GS but also send one to MIA. Ouch.
I know... it's horrible but I've read Suns can save cap space and use towards more addl supporting players. Should have traded him before the season like everyone was telling him to get max value. smh
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What about this trade with spurs shipping a first to miami??
edit: link shows spurs: durant, phx: jimmy, miami: devin, kj, and a first from the spurs.
I really want them to go after JJJ. Can you imagine a Fox/Castle/Vassell/JJJ/Wemby line up? If Vassell ever gets his together that's lock down defense and shooting from every position with elite speed and dribble penetration.
Me and scott would rather have Trey Murphy and his $30M a year.
I'd gladly overpay for Murphy because that contract will be invaluable and worth a pick or two by itself.
I'm in favor of high end starters with two max contracts, three max deals mean the rest of the roster is garbage.
How would you even pull it off? Wemby's extension kicks in 2027, Castle's in 2028, Fox will be on a max deal and you'd add another 30% max?
If I'm the Suns I'd rather keep my own pick and route the 27 GS pick to Miami. Miami is actually receiving great value for Butler here given the situation. And since he has basically locked Miami into trading him to Phoenix he should be going there at a discount. It seems like the Suns should keep their own pick and keep the GS pick at a minimum.
Why would the Suns want Butler without Durant and why would the latter be amendable to going back to the Warriors?
I'd rather have Barnes than Wiggins. Barnes' ability to play stretch four is crucial until they find a replacement and I expect it to be a wing-forward as opposed to a forward-big.
not sure how much a Fox extension will impact the Spurs 2026 cap space but if there's still room, I wouldn't want it to be taken up by someone like Wiggins.
we all know there's no way NOLA trades Murphy. I'd love to have him cause his contract is a bargain. Pipe dream.Me and scott would rather have Trey Murphy and his $30M a year.
I'd gladly overpay for Murphy because that contract will be invaluable and worth a pick or two by itself.
I'm in favor of high end starters with two max contracts, three max deals mean the rest of the roster is garbage.
How would you even pull it off? Wemby's extension kicks in 2027, Castle's in 2028, Fox will be on a max deal and you'd add another 30% max?
I know several Spurs, including Fox, just went to Vassell's jersey retirement. And that team chemistry is underrated by many (myself included).
Still, if I was Brian Wright, I would pick up the phone and offer Vassell to the Wizards for Middleton. They have no use for Middleton, and Middleton is better at the role Vassell is now in (#3 or 4 option, mainly spot-up shooter). This trade also opens up more 2026 cap space.
In fact, I can't think of any significant or even moderate move the Spurs can make while keeping Vassell. If they trade Keldon plus filler for a player with a mid to high salary, they will be paying Fox and Sochan and Vassell and this new player. Some of that money will roll off before Victor's extension kicks in but not all of it.
Was listening to Vecenie and he was pondering OKC and HOU and potential CP3 landing spots... and this intrigued me. It fits the theory that CP3 wouldn't want to be a backup and he'd like to ring chase. OKC is obviously a perfect fit, and they could use a backup ball handler. HOU also could use a backup ball handler, and are less likely to ring, but are still poised to make a playoff push.
Here are some ideas that all work in Spotrac
OKC IDEAS
Idea #1: CP3 for Cason Wallace. This is a big time pipe dream, but Fox/Castle/Wallace would be a 3-man guard rotation for the ages. We'd be completely set here for a few years. I don't think OKC would actually do this though without get first round draft capital back. But with Topic coming back next year maybe they view Cason as expendable and potential expensive?
Idea #2: CP3 for Ousmane Dieng and Jaylin Williams (Arkansas J. Williams, not Jalen). Gives us a backup C and we get to take a cheap look at Dieng.
Idea #3: CP3 for either Aaron Wiggins or Isaiah Joe. Both really nice young players. OKC finds a way for these guys to get playing time somehow, but they have a glut of SGs and one of these guys is expendable.
HOU IDEAS
Idea #1: CP3 for Steven Adams
Idea #2: CP3 for Jock Landale
Idea #3: CP3 for Aaron Holiday and the newly acquired Jaden Springer
Idea #4: CP3 for Jaden Springer and Cam Whitmore (we'd certainly need to send out picks to make this happen)
I think this is key. The Spurs can still open up close to a max salary spot if they can find a way to get off Vassell and Keldon before the Summer of 2026, and that's even with giving Sochan a $20MM/yr extension (which I think would be an overpay). Unless Devin really turns it around to close out the year, I think he's definitely on the block (my biases against him aside).
Vassel and Keldon for Kevin Durant would be sweet..
Or try and Get Bol Bol...
How can we get in on the Ingram to ATL talks?
We offer all 3 Hawks picks for Murphy.
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