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    so if we assume all second round picks are made equal, the hawks traded

    De'Andre Hunter
    Bogdan Bogdanovic
    Cody Zeller
    1 SRP

    in exchange for

    Caris Levert
    Terance Mann
    Georges Niang
    Bones Hyland
    2 FRP swaps

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    so if we assume all second round picks are made equally, the hawks traded

    De'Andre Hunter
    Bogdan Bogdanovic
    Cody Zeller
    1 SRP

    in exchange for

    Caris Levert
    Terance Mann
    Georges Niang
    Bones Hyland
    2 FRP swaps on swaps
    Yep.

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    Hate to say it but Extastic was correct about the Golden Ticket Theory. The Hawks were one season ending injury way from disaster and it happened year one.

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    Bogi was bad and Zeller wasn't even on the team. Those moves are cutting salary. I don't really get the Hunter trade, but it's cutting salary too I guess and selling high on a player who is having an outlier season.

    Remember the ATL gets the Sacramento pick and the Lakers pick this year. Sacramento could very well be lotto. They're not in terrible shape draft-wise even if they lose their own.

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    Chris Haynes reporting "Trae's Young future with the Hawks is becoming murky"

    Give us pouty Trae to close the season and amp those Top 4 odds!

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    Haven't been keeping up with last few pages so apologies if this has already been discussed.

    But IMO, there's a high chance that Trae is moved this offseason in a multi-team trade that involves the Spurs where we end up sending salary (Devin/Keldon) to the Hawks along with their picks back and Trae goes to a non-SA team.

    As far as who ends up in SA, I think we go big game hunting. I'm talking Ant, Booker, or maybe Franz Wagner. Spurs would hold a lot of leverage in that hypothetical scenario tbh.

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    Hate to say it but Extastic was correct about the Golden Ticket Theory. The Hawks were one season ending injury way from disaster and it happened year one.
    Trae turns into an expiring this summer, too, by way of a 2026 opt out. They really have to move him. I can’t see him staying after this fire sale.

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    Haven't been keeping up with last few pages so apologies if this has already been discussed.

    But IMO, there's a high chance that Trae is moved this offseason in a multi-team trade that involves the Spurs where we end up sending salary (Devin/Keldon) to the Hawks along with their picks back and Trae goes to a non-SA team.

    As far as who ends up in SA, I think we go big game hunting. I'm talking Ant, Booker, or maybe Franz Wagner. Spurs would hold a lot of leverage in that hypothetical scenario tbh.
    That’s like the dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas. We didn’t want Trae at the cost of those picks, but we’re going to pay them to let someone else have him? that. Trae young isn’t going to return any of those players you’re dreaming about, mainly due to unavailability.

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    Haven't been keeping up with last few pages so apologies if this has already been discussed.

    But IMO, there's a high chance that Trae is moved this offseason in a multi-team trade that involves the Spurs where we end up sending salary (Devin/Keldon) to the Hawks along with their picks back and Trae goes to a non-SA team.

    As far as who ends up in SA, I think we go big game hunting. I'm talking Ant, Booker, or maybe Franz Wagner. Spurs would hold a lot of leverage in that hypothetical scenario tbh.
    Give me Franz all day long...other than Luka, I can't think of a better fit..

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    Bogi was bad and Zeller wasn't even on the team. Those moves are cutting salary. I don't really get the Hunter trade, but it's cutting salary too I guess and selling high on a player who is having an outlier season.

    Remember the ATL gets the Sacramento pick and the Lakers pick this year. Sacramento could very well be lotto. They're not in terrible shape draft-wise even if they lose their own.
    Sacramento pick is protected 1-12. LA is unprotected.

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    @ the "muh atlanta picks" crew who've spent every moment since we traded DJM talking about how those picks were untouchable bricks of gold

    @ the "trae sucks no way we should trade for that inefficient, no defense chucking loser" while defending inefficient, no defense chucking career loser Devin Vasselline

    @ the "atlanta is really screwed, they have no where to go but down, trae will probably opt out and leave" mafia

    These are all the same braindead morons who talk about how we need to be patient, because we have "very good developing players" in Vassell and Sochan. Truly clueless morons who don't watch any basketball outside of the Spurs and seem confused as to why Atlanta is a better team than us.
    This is the post that turned the Hawks season around.

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    That’s like the dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas. We didn’t want Trae at the cost of those picks, but we’re going to pay them to let someone else have him? that. Trae young isn’t going to return any of those players you’re dreaming about, mainly due to unavailability.
    I think Mugen's suggestion is that it would be a 3-team deal with us sending Devin/Keldon + ATL picks to ATL, Hawks send Trae somewhere, and we get a big fish back (my vote is for TMIII in this edition of Spurs fan fiction)

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    This is the post that turned the Hawks season around.

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    I guess claiming reverse jinx is one way of owning up. Portland is coming on like a freight train at 9-1 in their last 10 and Toronto, 6-4, just grabbed BI for cheap. I can see ATL dropping at least those two spots, and maybe more if Embiid is really back.

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    This is the post that turned the Hawks season around.

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    Lol. So how many different ways have you had crow? baked, fried, blackened, grilled?

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    I guess claiming reverse jinx is one way of owning up. Portland is coming on like a freight train at 9-1 in their last 10 and Toronto, 6-4, just grabbed BI for cheap. I can see ATL dropping at least those two spots, and maybe more if Embiid is really back.
    I'm not claiming a reverse jinx at all.

    A Lannister always pays his debts.

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    Lol. So how many different ways have you had crow? baked, fried, blackened, grilled?
    Man, I'm hoping this restaurant runs out before we get to boiled

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    so if we assume all second round picks are made equal, the hawks traded

    De'Andre Hunter
    Bogdan Bogdanovic
    Cody Zeller
    1 SRP

    in exchange for

    Caris Levert
    Terance Mann
    Georges Niang
    Bones Hyland
    2 FRP swaps
    horrible trade for Hawks. Cavs robbed them. Why would they trade pick swaps when they are the worse team ?

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    I think Mugen's suggestion is that it would be a 3-team deal with us sending Devin/Keldon + ATL picks to ATL, Hawks send Trae somewhere, and we get a big fish back (my vote is for TMIII in this edition of Spurs fan fiction)
    That would be too much for TM3. Keldon one FRp two seconds max we would go.

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    I think Mugen's suggestion is that it would be a 3-team deal with us sending Devin/Keldon + ATL picks to ATL, Hawks send Trae somewhere, and we get a big fish back (my vote is for TMIII in this edition of Spurs fan fiction)
    This.

    I don't think it's too far fetched depending on how the playoffs shake out.

    -Ant is from Atlanta
    -Orlando has long been a rumored Trae destination and I think they're going to have to decide between Paolo/Franz sooner rather than later
    -Booker is probably a long shot but who knows what the F that organization is thinking

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    I'm not claiming a reverse jinx at all.

    A Lannister always pays his debts.
    Yeah, but "the North remembers" (your bull )

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    i think hawks got worse at the deadline, but not in some "oh man the tank is on" way.

    hunter was doing really well for them this year... but levert is playable, and zeller/bogi were awful and not playing anyway

    will it be bad enough for them to fall out of the play-in? im not sure.

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    Man, I'm hoping this restaurant runs out before we get to boiled

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    Confirmed by Trae, but not by SA... Brian was probably offering Collins, Tre, Sidy and a 2028 Spurs FRP
    as he should

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    This is the post that turned the Hawks season around.

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    Oh man you got a real winner there lol

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    That’s like the dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas. We didn’t want Trae at the cost of those picks, but we’re going to pay them to let someone else have him? that. Trae young isn’t going to return any of those players you’re dreaming about, mainly due to unavailability.
    You've always been low on Trae so I don't expect you to understand. But we just witnessed a trade deadline that essentially saw AD land Luka, Lavine land Fox... we literally saw Derozan net Kawhi not too long ago

    All it takes is for a relationship to sour for an organization to think a newly extended Trae Young isn't too far of a drop off from a Ant/Booker/Franz tbh.

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