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    if I understand what you're saying, the argument is that we've had the 14th amendment wrong from the very beginning, but no one thought to challenge it until now
    He's saying they wrote it wrong, but if you had a seance and asked the guy who wrote it, he would say something different from what he actually wrote so we need to guess what he was thinking and pretend what he was thinking was the actual thing that was ratified into the Cons ution.

    NOT what is actually written in the Cons ution.

    You need to enact a literal ghost amendment because that's how government works.

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    if I understand what you're saying, the argument is that we've had the 14th amendment wrong from the very beginning, but no one thought to challenge it until now
    No, it's been debated since it was ratified. It only picked up steam when illegal immigration became an issue in the 80's. The pejorative term "Anchor Baby" arose in the 90's. The left's Dreamer Act and attempts at amnesty and other machinations to allow illegal aliens to remain in the U.S. caused Trump to take up the matter in his first term though, he never followed through. I think Biden's throwing open the doors of the border just cemented the opposition to finally get the courts to or get off the pot on whether or not babies born to illegal aliens are automatically citizens.

    It's in the hands of the courts now.

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    No, it's been debated since it was ratified. It only picked up steam when illegal immigration became an issue in the 80's. The pejorative term "Anchor Baby" arose in the 90's. The left's Dreamer Act and attempts at amnesty and other machinations to allow illegal aliens to remain in the U.S. caused Trump to take up the matter in his first term though, he never followed through. I think Biden's throwing open the doors of the border just cemented the opposition to finally get the courts to or get off the pot on whether or not babies born to illegal aliens are automatically citizens.

    It's in the hands of the courts now.
    Pass a new amendment with your ghost language that apparently couldn't be written back then.

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    how you treat people matters

    Trumplandia's contempt for everyone else could be a strategic liability

    US officials kept around 100 deported Indian migrants in shackles for their 40-hour flight home, including during bathroom breaks, in the latest incident to spark anger overseas at President Donald Trump’s migration crackdown.

    Indian lawmakers demonstrated outside parliament on Thursday, some wearing shackles and others mocking the much-touted friendship between Trump and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

    in New Delhi, members of the youth wing of India’s main opposition party burned an effigy of Trump.
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/07/india...tions-intl-hnk

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    reporting on LE activities has up til now been held to be cons utionally protected, maybe not for much longer under Trump

    Trump already using the FCC to threaten broadcast licenses, another promise kept


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    when the state muzzles the press, that's a police state, right?

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    mass deportation except for white Afrikaners


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    South Africa cracks back



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    Blue sky news, lol

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    Blue sky news, lol
    Is it factually wrong?

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    DarrinS with nothing topical to say, very typical

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    Maybe those white South Africans should be moved to the Puntland.

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    Is it factually wrong?
    Don't know. Can't link to the original source as they are blue sky screenshots

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    shouldn't be too hard to find for a motivated reader

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    Don't know. Can't link to the original source as they are blue sky screenshots
    You can read though.

    Is the information you read with your face factually wrong?

    Did Trump not make this policy?

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    shouldn't be too hard to find for a motivated reader
    Well, you found it, so post the source.

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    Well, you found it, so post the source.
    Would you like for us to spoon feed you?

    Do you simply not believe Trump would do such a thing?

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    Well, you found it, so post the source.
    captured from social media, like you said

    the first one is NYT font, i think

    if you'd really like to verify the quotes, a quick online search ought to clear up any concerns you might have

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    captured from social media, like you said

    the first one is NYT font, i think

    if you'd really like to verify the quotes, a quick online search ought to clear up any concerns you might have
    Darrin is helpless.

    This explains a lot actually.

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    mass deportation except for white Afrikaners

    Post the "Read more" link.

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    Post the "Read more" link.
    I'll give you a special link for a special little guy:

    https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=trump+south+africa

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    Blue sky news, lol
    Says the guy who's definitely on Truth Social and takes every single thing he sees there as fact

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    Says the guy who's definitely on Truth Social and takes every single thing he sees there as fact
    I'm not on truth social

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    I'm not on truth social
    which platforms do you prefer?

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    Trump orders U.S. to prioritize refugee resettlement of South Africans of European descent

    President Trump on Friday directed government officials to prioritize the resettlement of South Africans of European descent through the U.S. refugee program, which he suspended during his first day in office.

    In an executive order, Mr. Trump accused the South African government of discriminating against Afrikaners, an ethnic group in South Africa made up of descendants of European colonists, mostly from the Netherlands, who first arrived there in the 1600s.

    Until the 1990s, White South Africans of European descent ruled South Africa, enforcing the brutal system of apartheid against the country's Black majority.

    But Mr. Trump alleged in his order that White South Africans are now the targets of oppression by the country's government, citing a law that U.S. conservatives like Trump adviser and billionaire Elon Musk have said allow racially motivated seizures of land owned by White South Africans. Musk was born in South Africa.

    South Africa's government has strongly denied any land confiscations or racially motivated discrimination, saying the law being scrutinized targets land not being used or not serving the public interest.
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-o...of-afrikaners/

    Apartheid first

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